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Old 22 January 2007, 08:25 PM
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Petter Solberg and Chris Atkinson both mentioned the new car that will debut in Mexico (?) during the rally this weekend, is it a new version of the eagle eye (or whatever its now called) or the completely new model?

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Old 22 January 2007, 08:48 PM
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Hawkeye mate
Old 22 January 2007, 08:55 PM
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Knew it was a bird name but couldn't remember. Cheers.

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I think it must be a re worked hawkeye.
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Old 22 January 2007, 09:42 PM
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Isn't it japs eye?

Oh, and rumours that the new car will be Loeb's old xsara painted blue with a bonnet scoop are apparently unfounded...
Old 22 January 2007, 09:44 PM
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I read that they were getting rid of the 'hawkeye' style completely?
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Originally Posted by Flaps
I read that they were getting rid of the 'hawkeye' style completely?
someone posted a photo of the next genaration scoob on here a few weeks ago,simular front end to the 2007 model but a hatchback.wasnt sure about it at first glance but its growing on me

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As Crash test, pedestrian crash scores and aerodynamics are having more of an effect on designs than looks All cars end up looking the same Manufactures are looking for the holy grail an unmistakable "Corporate Image/identity".

Subaru were looking to replace their most famous one, the Top mount Scoop because of possible impending Regs and repositioning TMIC.

So IMHO their more likely to lose the Alfa shape grille than the "Hawkeyes"

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The impreza will probably look something along the lines of this at some point, that was a concept car from 2003 but that sort of shape is the way that things seem to be moving in.

http://www.iwoc.co.uk/images/subaru/B11Scoupe.jpg

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Originally Posted by Rob_Impreza99
that was a concept car from 2003 but that sort of shape is the way that things seem to be moving in.







Rob if you put all 4 pic's into the blender you won't be far off the size, shape and style

Apparently Prodrive were struggling to get the gearbox mounted nicely in the New Car so Phil Mills might have to put his feet on it

IMHO

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I'd assumed that the March 07 rally car rolled out for Rally Mexico will be small differences from the current 06 hawkeye rally car.

The new shape hatchback road car won't be around until, is it October 07 in Japan and March 08 in UK? So they won't be able to homologate a rally car based on that model until after that date. More likely Rally Mexico 08 I would have thought.

Anyone know for sure?
Old 23 January 2007, 11:09 AM
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Homologate it? That's a joke!

Why shouldn't they be allowed to run a prototype? Ford, Peugeot and Citroen are, since the cars THEY run CANNOT be bought off any forecourt, anywhere

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Old 23 January 2007, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Homologate it? That's a joke!

Why shouldn't they be allowed to run a prototype? Ford, Peugeot and Citroen are, since the cars THEY run CANNOT be bought off any forecourt, anywhere

Alcazar
Very true. In an ideal world, if you don't offer a 4x4 turbo C4, Focus etc then you shouldn't be allowed to shoehorn the gear in and say "We rally a C4 or Focus" etc.

Granted WRC and road cars are very different but at least you can get 4x4 Impreza and Evo (even octavia).

It may as well be classed as sillouette WRC.

Sadly, however Ford and Citreon etc would never build and sell 4X4 cars soley to homologate a car for WRC - you'd end up losing WRC altogether in favour of JWRC.

All the "Specials" will probably never be seen again. 323 GTR, GTIR, Escossie etc.
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We're off to prodrive for a tour in feb, so I'll keep my eyes peeled and see if I can spot anything of interest while we're there
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I was hoping it was going to be this, is it not then


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Originally Posted by rallying1
I was hoping it was going to be this, is it not then



I think this will be pretty close to the final rally car, maybe some differences to the lights / grill, etc.
But it will be a 5 door hatch, there is no 3 door model.
Prodrive have had a shell for some time for roll cage design.
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Originally Posted by rallying1
I was hoping it was going to be this, is it not then

That Photochop WRC version is not far from this spyshot Road version below


A little few grille/bumper etc cosmetic changes and the white one will be anounced in May ish.

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Watched some of the Mexico rally yesterday, and the new car looks the same as the old one

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Originally Posted by davedipster
Watched some of the Mexico rally yesterday, and the new car looks the same as the old one

dipster
Same shape with different bonnet vents, slightly different front bumper and the rest is more technical stuff. Disappointing debut to be honest.
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This was the new car but it was newer in the sense that it had a better technical package, they were not going to bring out a totally different shape this season.

This new car as could be seen was going quite well with Peter Solberg until he lost all oil pressure from hitting a rock I believe and losing all oil.

He was leading at that point by a half decent margin very. So I guess this is good news for Subaru fans

Come on Subaru, lets get back to winning ways
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Originally Posted by Chelspeed
I'd assumed that the March 07 rally car rolled out for Rally Mexico will be small differences from the current 06 hawkeye rally car.

The new shape hatchback road car won't be around until, is it October 07 in Japan and March 08 in UK? So they won't be able to homologate a rally car based on that model until after that date. More likely Rally Mexico 08 I would have thought.

Anyone know for sure?
Spoke to the local dealer last week and he said only a 1.5 and 20 N/A in September for viewing, test drives and the hotter versions later in 07. Here's hoping
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Originally Posted by jubhi
He was leading at that point by a half decent margin very. So I guess this is good news for Subaru fans

Originally Posted by jubhi
Come on Subaru, lets get back to winning ways
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