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Old Nov 8, 2000 | 03:49 PM
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Essentially what are the differences between the 2 cars?

In terms of power and equipment, do they both have Diff control and waterspray, what about roof vent etc.

Also what am I likely to pay for a V4??

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Old Nov 8, 2000 | 05:48 PM
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Someone must know the score here.

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Old Nov 8, 2000 | 05:52 PM
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What I know of:

Exterior styling.

=)

Roof vent = V-Ltd.
A close friend is selling a V4 V-Ltd if u want. Probably best in country.

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Old Nov 8, 2000 | 05:54 PM
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Cheers Cem, so no real advantage in equipment or power??

What sort of money is he after??

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Old Nov 8, 2000 | 05:57 PM
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Firstly, Type R (2 dr) doesnt have a roof vent, as that is just on the Type RA (4 dr). Diff control and water spray come on both as standard.
The main difference in vers 4 and vers 5 are that 5 has bigger rear wing, bigger front spoiler and the ecu is mapped slightly differently. This has caused some problems on the vers 5s with lower octane fuel, especially on track days (engines have been known to blow).
So mainly cosmetic differences really. I bought a Type RA vers 4 for £15,500 end summer with 5000 miles and in perfect nick, but prices are so subjective, its hard to tell.
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Old Nov 8, 2000 | 06:33 PM
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Richie,

Cosmetics aside, the V4 has the Phase 1 engine, and the V5 has the Phase 2 engine.

If you are planning on getting the car re-mapped, definately go for the V5 (subject to price). Whilst there have been a few cases of V5's having problems, they are mainly due to poor fuel, and it's recommended to use octane booster.

However, the differences between the phase 1, and phase 2 engines really show up with a remap. The later engine takes VERY well to a remap (based on Possum Link experience) and accepts far more ignition advance than the earlier engine.

This is not to say that the V4 engine isn't any good (I have one, so I hope not) it just won't run as much ignition. This can be overcome, but takes a little more work.

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Old Nov 9, 2000 | 10:10 PM
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Rich

I am the fella that Cem is talking about, I am going to be at Donnington if you want to have a look at the car.

Price is fairly negotiable but it is a nice car (then i would say that).

If you are interested then send me an email as I don't tend to check the board much (Cem phoned me to tell me to look at this post!!)

Cheers, Simon
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Old Nov 9, 2000 | 11:31 PM
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I have just bought a type R ver. VI, on the fuel question should I run it on Super or normal unleaded.
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Old Nov 10, 2000 | 09:32 AM
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are you telling me I will nacker my engine on normal unleaded. david hendry cars said it was ok on normal (the ecu sorts it all out).
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Old Nov 10, 2000 | 09:46 AM
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It will run on normal unleaded but you wont get the performance for one, but also from vers 5 onwards it can be a real problem with lower octane stuff on the track. I gather the engine runs much too hot and it can blow. I suggest you always use octance booster.
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Old Nov 10, 2000 | 10:36 AM
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heheh...<B>BOOOOOM</B>
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Old Nov 10, 2000 | 11:02 AM
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I read in EVO (so it must be true!) that the version 5 Type R handles much better in the wet than the version 4 Type R. Something to do with spring and damper rates, although one suspects they may have had different tyres for the later car to have a marked advantage.
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Old Nov 10, 2000 | 11:36 AM
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My friend bought a version four Sti from David Hendry and i understand he was given the same advice. 27,000 miles and it holed a piston...

Don't run it on regular whatever you do. Check out previous threads on "BROQUET" - i've subsequently fitted them and the engine actually feels smoother and happier, especially on Super.

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Old Nov 10, 2000 | 12:57 PM
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STi's MUST be run on SUPER, assuming you wan't to stay in one piece.

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Old Nov 10, 2000 | 01:41 PM
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OK I've just filled up with super, what is this about an octane booster ???
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