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Old 03 November 2006, 08:35 PM
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Default S204 - has anyone imported one of these?

Has anyone imported or in the process of importing a new or 2nd hand S204?

I'm considering it at the moment as a replacement for my 03 Spec C, provided it sells, either that or an 06 spec C.
Old 03 November 2006, 08:55 PM
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How do you propose to register it?
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hi sadam

what is the spec on your spec c?
Colour and price etc


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Can't you get one through Litchfields ?
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Re getting it registered - Litchfield imports offered these for sale when they were new and Miguel at Newera also says it is possible to import a 2nd hand one and register it - they are the specialist.

My main query is do they offer something more than a Spec C or are they a bit of a damp squid!!!
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They are heavier to start with, they are built on the standard STi chassis and not the Spec C chassis.
Uprated engine/turbo/suspension parts as well as a nice interior (recaro/sti designed).
Otherwise no they wont give you anything more except comfort

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Yes Iain Litchfield can get you an S204. I passed up the chance on two examples whilst in search of my car

Edit for spelling

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Originally Posted by sadam
Re getting it registered - Litchfield imports offered these for sale when they were new and Miguel at Newera also says it is possible to import a 2nd hand one and register it - they are the specialist.

My main query is do they offer something more than a Spec C or are they a bit of a damp squid!!!
You have missed the point sadam. You stated that you intended to import one and I asked you how you intended to register it. Having imported more cars than I care to remember I fully understand what is involved; I suspect that you do not.


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Old 04 November 2006, 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by GC8
You have missed the point sadam. You stated that you intended to import one and I asked you how you intended to register it. Having imported more cars than I care to remember I fully understand what is involved; I suspect that you do not.


Simon
I myself import cars to and tbh it's not as difficult to register a car without a model report as some ppl make out.

Scare tactics from big importers

But regards the s204 you'd be better of with my SPEC C TYPA RA LTD the daddy

https://www.scoobynet.com/private-sa...hlight=juggers

Only 350 of these made compared to the 600 S204's
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Is it the S204 that has those crazy expensive awesome seats?

TX.

Originally Posted by TonyBurns
They are heavier to start with, they are built on the standard STi chassis and not the Spec C chassis.
Uprated engine/turbo/suspension parts as well as a nice interior (recaro/sti designed).
Otherwise no they wont give you anything more except comfort

Tony
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Yep, here they are:

http://news.hspn.com/content_images/s204-recaro1.jpg

Nice! Check the damper in the boot!

All you need to know re the S204 here:

STi Releases Limited Edition S204 (600 units available)

IMHO I'd go for the Spec C though. I am biased mind

TX.

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Originally Posted by juggers
Scare tactics from big importers
Juggers,

Can you share your approach?

The reason why I am curious is contrary to your view - the vast majority of big importers I have had dealings with in the past have given up importing as it is simply too difficult.

Rannoch
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Originally Posted by Rannoch
Juggers,

Can you share your approach?

The reason why I am curious is contrary to your view - the vast majority of big importers I have had dealings with in the past have given up importing as it is simply too difficult.

Rannoch
My approach is simply the same as any other importer
.........Yes it's not all easy.You take big risk's sending money over,final condition of the car ,unknown faults but these issues can be over come if you have a decent honest agent(not a lazy b *).



Regarding registering cars with NO model report tiz a ******* but it can be done.

Juggers
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It was the latter bit I was interested in.

Does the price you are selling yours for reflect this difficulty?

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Originally Posted by Rannoch
It was the latter bit I was interested in.

Does the price you are selling yours for reflect this difficulty?

Rannoch
No because i dont import cars with no model reports......Yet
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Rannoch, there are a number of options but most simply arent worth it.

Regsiter the car abroad: a LHD car here only needs to pass an SVA, not an E-SVA. The same applies to RHD cars in Europe.

Convert (temporarily) to LHD; in 2006/2007 thatd only be worthwhile if the values of 22Bs shot up!

Register in a new RHD EU state with a more casual attitude: its a logistical nightmare to do your own cars though.

Falsify the de-registration certificate and its translation. Currently popular with Asians in Keighley.

Thats every option thats available, other than for 'Wagons, you could consider conversion into a 'camper'.....

Everyone is an expert arent they?


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Originally Posted by GC8
Rannoch, there are a number of options but most simply arent worth it.

Regsiter the car abroad: a LHD car here only needs to pass an SVA, not an E-SVA. The same applies to RHD cars in Europe.

Convert (temporarily) to LHD; in 2006/2007 thatd only be worthwhile if the values of 22Bs shot up!

Register in a new RHD EU state with a more casual attitude: its a logistical nightmare to do your own cars though.

Falsify the de-registration certificate and its translation. Currently popular with Asians in Keighley.

Thats every option thats available, other than for 'Wagons, you could consider conversion into a 'camper'.....

Everyone is an expert arent they?


Simon
Falsify the de reg? how do they manage that? They would also have to change the vin plate........ ummm Got to give it up to them if they can do all the above.

Who are these asians do you have a number

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One further point Juggers. If you were importing properly then there would be no risk "sending money over" at all. Im not sure how the laziness or otherwise of your agent affects the quality of cars that you buy either, unless he simply sends you the make & model that you ask for.....? A proper agent / company provides a number of (principally) logistical services but you should be selecting your own vehicles to bid on, whose condtion is fully described in the appraisal.


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You dont have to alter the build plate (Japanese cars have a short chassis number not a 17 character VIN).

A member here has a two door Impreza registered by a company with a poor reputation in Keighley, on an N plate. His Applied Model Number (on the build plate, which was undisturbed) related to a MY97 STI Type-R. The certificate of de-reg had been falsified to make the car appear to be older than it was, so requiring an MOT only in order to register.
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Originally Posted by GC8
One further point Juggers. If you were importing properly then there would be no risk "sending money over" at all. Im not sure how the laziness or otherwise of your agent affects the quality of cars that you buy either, unless he simply sends you the make & model that you ask for.....? A proper agent / company provides a number of (principally) logistical services but you should be selecting your own vehicles to bid on, whose condtion is fully described in the appraisal.


Simon
So your telling me the inspection of a car by your agent is not crucial?

Bollocks

I bought a car which was a grade 4.5 my agent took pics and assessed the car after only to find it pissing oil.
If he was lazy c#nt he would of had it transported to his yard without even looking.

Yes i am selecting my own cars.
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Originally Posted by GC8
You dont have to alter the build plate (Japanese cars have a short chassis number not a 17 character VIN).

A member here has a two door Impreza registered by a company with a poor reputation in Keighley, on an N plate. His Applied Model Number (on the build plate, which was undisturbed) related to a MY97 STI Type-R. The certificate of de-reg had been falsified to make the car appear to be older than it was, so requiring an MOT only in order to register.
Do they falsify the jap certificate aswell or just the english doc?
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I think that they falsify the translation only and rely on the VRO not understanding the Jap's year dating convention. A VRO where the staff understand about the year of the Emporer's ascension wouldnt wear it...
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With regards to S204s: even if they share the same AMN as a similar STI Spec-C, then a number of other parts will have to be changed on the car to make it match. On a car like the S204 that could include ECU; turbocharger, brakes, steering..... Hardly viable on a single car, even if a MR was available today for an '06 Spec-C...
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A car "pissing oil" wouldnt have received a 4.5; even at the most easy-going of auctions. Common discrepancies are 3.5 - 4 between auctions; youre talking about a 4.5 - 2 (or maybe 3 if the car was good in every other respect).
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Originally Posted by GC8
I think that they falsify the translation only and rely on the VRO not understanding the Jap's year dating convention. A VRO where the staff understand about the year of the Emporer's ascension wouldnt wear it...
Interesting. Is keighley trade centre owned by asian lads?
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VOSA now check every De-Reg document to stop shady importers doctoring the paperwork.

An S204 will require a EuroIV emissions test and explanations to why parts are different.
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I didnt say that it was Keighley Trade Centre. As far as I am aware the owners of KTC are Asian though.
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Originally Posted by GC8
A car "pissing oil" wouldnt have received a 4.5; even at the most easy-going of auctions. Common discrepancies are 3.5 - 4 between auctions; youre talking about a 4.5 - 2 (or maybe 3 if the car was good in every other respect).

Sorry fella but i think your very naive .Grade 6 and s cars can have problems which can go unnoticed. It may be a VERY rare case but it happens.

Obviously in your dealings to date you have not come across such an experience .Luckily for me i have that’s why i get my agent to asses all cars upon purchase.

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Juggers,

you still have not revealed your secret?

GC8,

the S204 is based on the heavier STi not the Spec C and so the changes would be referenced to the STi MR.

Rannoch
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Got an idea - register a truck load of Japanese cars in Romania before New Year and then they would be inherited into the EC after Jan 1st!!

Rannoch


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