MY06 WRX Vs Focus ST
27 October 2006, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by greerwrx
plain simple question, which is faster.
in a straight line, twisties.
both standard.
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in a straight line, twisties.
both standard.
cheers
In a straight line. The ST would have the WRX at any speed ONCE rolling. Off the mark then obviously the WRX would be quicker, but I reckon the ST would start to reel it in after that.
In the dry, the ST would keep up with the WRX on the twisties, but would struggle when wet.
Edited to add. Just noticed you said MY06, I drove the MY05 not the MY06. Sorry.
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27 October 2006, 10:15 AM
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On every day roads, driven by average/above average drivers, there'd be nothing in it. The ST I would say would be slightly quicker once rolling, and would be equal to the WRX (if not better) on the twisties. Contrary to people beliefs, the Impreza is not the best handling car in the world. Obviously throw in wet tarmac, and the WRX will have an advantage
Also take into consideration that the ST is better built, has a better interior (by miles), better sound system (by miles) and has a all round better feel good factor about it. the Impreza's interior is Cheap, and thats being kind.
Also take into consideration that the ST is better built, has a better interior (by miles), better sound system (by miles) and has a all round better feel good factor about it. the Impreza's interior is Cheap, and thats being kind.
27 October 2006, 10:34 AM
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not that im a fan of the ST, but the WRX used to be the performance bargain, but i recon the ST has stole the sub 20K region. If you add PPP, the WRX would have the edge again
27 October 2006, 10:36 AM
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27 October 2006, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by C2forWRX
not that im a fan of the ST, but the WRX used to be the performance bargain, but i recon the ST has stole the sub 20K region. If you add PPP, the WRX would have the edge again
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27 October 2006, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by C2forWRX
not that im a fan of the ST, but the WRX used to be the performance bargain, but i recon the ST has stole the sub 20K region. If you add PPP, the WRX would have the edge again
27 October 2006, 11:10 AM
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Having driven both, there's not much it. Ford has the slightly better engine, Impreza handles a little bit better(more adjustable, less roll). Both very good cars.
27 October 2006, 11:14 AM
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But isn't a EU WRX cheaper to buy (approx £16k) than an ST?
Originally Posted by C2forWRX
not that im a fan of the ST, but the WRX used to be the performance bargain, but i recon the ST has stole the sub 20K region. If you add PPP, the WRX would have the edge again
Just what I was thinking!
27 October 2006, 12:47 PM
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Who cares??
At the end of the day unless you were driving either of them like a complete loon there wouldn't be a lot in it, its all down to how a car feels to drive in my humble opinion, Iv'e had RS Fords and GTIs and blah, blah , blah but they were all good at the time and at the mo I like my scooby, but I wouldnt turn down an Orange ST 3 though, they are lush!!
At the end of the day unless you were driving either of them like a complete loon there wouldn't be a lot in it, its all down to how a car feels to drive in my humble opinion, Iv'e had RS Fords and GTIs and blah, blah , blah but they were all good at the time and at the mo I like my scooby, but I wouldnt turn down an Orange ST 3 though, they are lush!!
27 October 2006, 03:12 PM
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But the ST is a fwd???
So if you look at it from a tuning point a view....**** the ST.....
There's a kid in a bright orange one by me....never learns...
So if you look at it from a tuning point a view....**** the ST.....
There's a kid in a bright orange one by me....never learns...
27 October 2006, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Tripple'O G
But the ST is a fwd???
So if you look at it from a tuning point a view....**** the ST.....
There's a kid in a bright orange one by me....never learns...
So if you look at it from a tuning point a view....**** the ST.....
There's a kid in a bright orange one by me....never learns...
27 October 2006, 03:33 PM
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at least I don't look like a d!ck with one of the ugliest mugs ever created....
Ask your mum about my lesson teaching skills...
"Now this is called kicking your back doors in.....
Step 1..... bend over.....
Step 2....spread your cheeks....
Step 3......tell me when you feel my finger...
Look MA! no hands!!"
Ask your mum about my lesson teaching skills...
"Now this is called kicking your back doors in.....
Step 1..... bend over.....
Step 2....spread your cheeks....
Step 3......tell me when you feel my finger...
Look MA! no hands!!"
27 October 2006, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Tripple'O G
at least I don't look like a d!ck with one of the ugliest mugs ever created....
Ask your mum about my lesson teaching skills...
"Now this is called kicking your back doors in.....
Step 1..... bend over.....
Step 2....spread your cheeks....
Step 3......tell me when you feel my finger...
Look MA! no hands!!"
Ask your mum about my lesson teaching skills...
"Now this is called kicking your back doors in.....
Step 1..... bend over.....
Step 2....spread your cheeks....
Step 3......tell me when you feel my finger...
Look MA! no hands!!"
As for the 'yo momma' stuff, thanks for confirming that not only have no imagination but also that you are in fact beaten.
27 October 2006, 03:45 PM
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I told you.....I don't want you at one of my comps but i'd be quite happy to meet you and kick 7 shades of **** out of you
As for the lack of imagination, I thought that was quite funny ....just a shame you can't come out with anything new proving, in fact, you're the one lacking in that dept
anyway...lets not hijack this thread....i'd send you a pm but you haven't grasped that fact have you...
As for the lack of imagination, I thought that was quite funny
....just a shame you can't come out with anything new proving, in fact, you're the one lacking in that dept anyway...lets not hijack this thread....i'd send you a pm but you haven't grasped that fact have you...
27 October 2006, 04:39 PM
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I always thought the saying was "7 bells of ****" but anyway, LOL.
27 October 2006, 06:24 PM
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I looked at both but when you are talking to work mates (
) I didn’t want to try and explain why my ford is good and that it’s fast to most people it’s just a ford …
a scooby is "o its one of them rally cars"
+ with some of the Prodrive kit on it I think my one would kill a ST in the bends, even before I take it to powerstation or ppp
) I didn’t want to try and explain why my ford is good and that it’s fast to most people it’s just a ford … a scooby is "o its one of them rally cars"
+ with some of the Prodrive kit on it I think my one would kill a ST in the bends, even before I take it to powerstation or ppp
27 October 2006, 07:11 PM
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my view:
I dislike orange as a colour for cars.
I physically fit into a Scoob seats and driver position far better than the Focus
I think the Focus ST is stained by the ST170 both on cost and performance.
I think the Scoob WRX is living on the reputation of its elders.
The Focus ST is lagging the MY06 STi (I have a PPP aswell)
Subaru is WYSIWYG
Ford stripe you right up on the 'extras' to catch up. The ST170 cost more than a WRX and was the equivalent to the SX
The ST reduces the gap. I think the gap is massively widened when you take mods into account - the limits of Focus are more restrictive than the limits of Scooby.
My experience of Essex Ford is I would rather walk.
My experience of Essex Scooby dealers is much better (tho not in the East Midlands)
In short Focus ST vs Scoob WRX is personal choice.
Focus ST vs Scoob STi (any year) and it is an unfair contest.
As a company car I would prefer a Focus ST than a BMW or Audi/VW/Scoda (at least for performance)
And I must say that the pictures of the Focus Cosworth I have seen make it so damn pig ugly I don't give a to$$ what the perfomance is like
This is the only beast liable to give a 'proper' Scoob a run for its money.
Oh, BTW, the Filth don't give a toss when they take pictures that mean you end up driving a punto for 5 years. Remember that cars are the root of all evil, and you would get punished less (in law) for porking the Cabinets wives than doing 35 in a 30 zone. If you would want to, and looking at those I realise why speeding is on the increase.
So - the question is:
are you more evil driving a Scoob or a Focus or an M5 or a Skyline or a Ferrari or an F1 car??????
Rant over, back to docile.
I dislike orange as a colour for cars.
I physically fit into a Scoob seats and driver position far better than the Focus
I think the Focus ST is stained by the ST170 both on cost and performance.
I think the Scoob WRX is living on the reputation of its elders.
The Focus ST is lagging the MY06 STi (I have a PPP aswell)
Subaru is WYSIWYG
Ford stripe you right up on the 'extras' to catch up. The ST170 cost more than a WRX and was the equivalent to the SX
The ST reduces the gap. I think the gap is massively widened when you take mods into account - the limits of Focus are more restrictive than the limits of Scooby.
My experience of Essex Ford is I would rather walk.
My experience of Essex Scooby dealers is much better (tho not in the East Midlands)
In short Focus ST vs Scoob WRX is personal choice.
Focus ST vs Scoob STi (any year) and it is an unfair contest.
As a company car I would prefer a Focus ST than a BMW or Audi/VW/Scoda (at least for performance)
And I must say that the pictures of the Focus Cosworth I have seen make it so damn pig ugly I don't give a to$$ what the perfomance is like
This is the only beast liable to give a 'proper' Scoob a run for its money.Oh, BTW, the Filth don't give a toss when they take pictures that mean you end up driving a punto for 5 years. Remember that cars are the root of all evil, and you would get punished less (in law) for porking the Cabinets wives than doing 35 in a 30 zone. If you would want to, and looking at those I realise why speeding is on the increase.
So - the question is:
are you more evil driving a Scoob or a Focus or an M5 or a Skyline or a Ferrari or an F1 car??????
Rant over, back to docile.
27 October 2006, 07:18 PM
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Do any of the techie folk on the site know the typical transmission loss for
A) a 4wd car
B) a Fwd car ?
I mean a specific percentage, rather than just "it's a lot more in the 4wd".
A) a 4wd car
B) a Fwd car ?
I mean a specific percentage, rather than just "it's a lot more in the 4wd".
27 October 2006, 07:25 PM
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the ultimate test.
Go to Scooby dealer, ask to test drive any Impreza. Rag the **** out of it around the lanes.
Take photo of Salesperson.
Go to Ford dealer, ask to test drive the ST. Rag the **** out of it around the lanes.
Take photo of Salesperson.
Compare photos
Laugh.
Laugh again.
Remember not to buy the demo vehicle from either supplier
Go to Scooby dealer, ask to test drive any Impreza. Rag the **** out of it around the lanes.
Take photo of Salesperson.
Go to Ford dealer, ask to test drive the ST. Rag the **** out of it around the lanes.
Take photo of Salesperson.
Compare photos
Laugh.
Laugh again.
Remember not to buy the demo vehicle from either supplier