Any Legal heads out there help
18 October 2006, 02:53 PM
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Any Legal heads out there help
Just got back from the police station Ive been down to watch a video of my vehicle speeding
Aledigibley doing 41 in a 30.
The video was recorded from the rear so impossible to determine who was driving.
I need to Know and cant find anything on the net without paying for solicitors etc, is the following.
The start of the video shows the whole of the rear of my vehicle including the reg plate which is clearly visible, but on the report bar at the bottom which shows time date mph etc it aslo states ERROR 03.
According to the MPC Error 03 means that the infra red light is not locked on to the vehicle so cant give an accurate reading.
Simple so far
This what I really need to find out.
Later in the video the camera locks on to my vehicle but you can only see part of the registration
So in principal the only evidence they have got was when the camera was locked onto my vehicle when only the first 4 digits could be read.
Can this be used in evidence or do I challenge
Anybody got any ideas
Aledigibley doing 41 in a 30.The video was recorded from the rear so impossible to determine who was driving.
I need to Know and cant find anything on the net without paying for solicitors etc, is the following.
The start of the video shows the whole of the rear of my vehicle including the reg plate which is clearly visible, but on the report bar at the bottom which shows time date mph etc it aslo states ERROR 03.
According to the MPC Error 03 means that the infra red light is not locked on to the vehicle so cant give an accurate reading.
Simple so far
This what I really need to find out.
Later in the video the camera locks on to my vehicle but you can only see part of the registration
So in principal the only evidence they have got was when the camera was locked onto my vehicle when only the first 4 digits could be read.
Can this be used in evidence or do I challenge
Anybody got any ideas
18 October 2006, 03:05 PM
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Swallow it and pay £60 plus 3 points
Or
Hire a good barrister and go to court - Probably costing much more than £60 (however you may get court costs paid if you win - but obviously you will still have solicitors fees)
Or
Go to court and defend yourself, researching as much as you can before hand
Or
Pay some student £250 to take the point hit for you.
Personally I would go for option one
Or
Hire a good barrister and go to court - Probably costing much more than £60 (however you may get court costs paid if you win - but obviously you will still have solicitors fees)
Or
Go to court and defend yourself, researching as much as you can before hand
Or
Pay some student £250 to take the point hit for you.
Personally I would go for option one
18 October 2006, 03:07 PM
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i came back from court yesterday on a similar thing. Mine was just photos from the back of the car but i was still prosecuted even though there were inconsistencies in the statements of facts which should have been enough to get it thrown out on its own! I got done though! good luck and i hope you get off with it
18 October 2006, 03:26 PM
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Challange it and ask to see the calibration cert for the equitment / copy of there insurance for the car that catched you and its mot, you are free to see them and if any are out of date ect...... your in the clear. worth a try if you take them to court.
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18 October 2006, 03:33 PM
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Is the video the ONLY evidence or is it in addition to statements made by the officers involved? If it is the only evidence, who took and how? If it is in addition to other evidence, that other evidence may well confirm the commission of the offence but the video is only in support as minor additional testimony.
Send me cash in a brown envelope totalling £1000 and I'll try and get you a £60 fine and three penalty points.
Send me cash in a brown envelope totalling £1000 and I'll try and get you a £60 fine and three penalty points.
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18 October 2006, 05:12 PM
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If you are running the Subsection 4 defence, and are unable to identify the driver , viewing the video is a good step for demonstrating reasonable diligence.
If you are questioning the ever so dodgy LTI20 20 dodgeyscope, then you will need to take it to court and demand disclosure of the tape, not just a snippet with your car, but the whole enforcement period.
For free information on traffic law join PePiPoo: Helping the motorist to get justice fightback forums.
If you are questioning the ever so dodgy LTI20 20 dodgeyscope, then you will need to take it to court and demand disclosure of the tape, not just a snippet with your car, but the whole enforcement period.
For free information on traffic law join PePiPoo: Helping the motorist to get justice fightback forums.
18 October 2006, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Legal Eagle
Is the video the ONLY evidence or is it in addition to statements made by the officers involved? If it is the only evidence, who took and how? If it is in addition to other evidence, that other evidence may well confirm the commission of the offence but the video is only in support as minor additional testimony.
Send me cash in a brown envelope totalling £1000 and I'll try and get you a £60 fine and three penalty points.
Send me cash in a brown envelope totalling £1000 and I'll try and get you a £60 fine and three penalty points.
Not if the operator is a civilian (most scammer operators are civvies), only police officers can form an opinion that a vehicle is speeding, providing primary evidence of the offence.
18 October 2006, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Legal Eagle
Send me cash in a brown envelope totalling £1000 and I'll try and get you a £60 fine and three penalty points.
If you were a little better at filling in legal aid forms then youd have a newer Impreza Im sure: and you wouldnt be so cheap as to try to bum a free aerial for it.
Simon
edited to edd: * or just to confirm that you are a smug but talentless journey-man?
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18 October 2006, 09:44 PM
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If you were a little better at filling in legal aid forms then youd have a newer Impreza Im sure: and you wouldnt be so cheap as to try to bum a free aerial for it.
Ah bless, he remembers me.
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Thanks for all your suggestions ideas regarding the NIP i recieved
I have drafted my appeal
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I have drafted my appeal
I will keep you up to date with verdict.
PS.
If I havent posted by mid November by all means start the FREE THE WHITEPILGRIM CAMPAIGNE
PPS.
BANTER IS GOOD
PRAISE IS GOOD
CRITISISM IS GOOD
KNOWLEDGE IS GOOD
FREEDOM OF SPEACH IS GOOD
EDUCATION IS GOOD
We all learn from communication and our mistakes
Trust me Im divorced and skint
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