help needed WHICH OIL!!!!!
27 August 2006, 04:21 PM
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help needed WHICH OIL!!!!!
my 96 impreza is due an oil change shortly:but it currently has mineral oil in it:ive been told not to replace it with like for like so can anydody recommend a suitable oil please
27 August 2006, 04:30 PM
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You need a minimum semi synthetic 10w40, depending on mileage a fully synthetic but if your car has not been run on this at any time (and the mineral oil aint good in scoobs) id stick with the semi synth.
Shell Helix is the recommended oil for a scoob, though there are other brands that do a 10w40 oil also.
Tony
Shell Helix is the recommended oil for a scoob, though there are other brands that do a 10w40 oil also.
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27 August 2006, 06:34 PM
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If you have a local Euro Car Parts you can get Fuchs Titan Supersyn SL 5W40 in a 25 litre drum for IRO 73 quid plus vat. Works out at 17.16 per 5 litres, or 15.44 per oil change, based on a 4.5 litre fill. Superb fully synthetic oil from the makers of Silkolene which is up to date with all the latest spec, unlike many other supposed synthetic oils. I wouldn't use that stuff P!$$y Pete keeps touting in a Trabant, dredged from the bottom of a Grimsby tar pit 
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27 August 2006, 08:21 PM
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The only problem with fully synth is that if your car has never used it and is high mileage then your wasting your money buying it as the damage it prevents has already been done.
Hence the reason ive said go for the usual 10w40 semi synthetic.
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Hence the reason ive said go for the usual 10w40 semi synthetic.
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27 August 2006, 08:54 PM
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I had the same question about which oil to use, and everyone recommends different manufactor's and grade's. Someone said I should email or speak to Oilman ( on here ) I spoke to Guy on the phone, and he was very very helpful, asked me what car I had, miles, modifications, how I drive it etc and he recommended a certain oil that would suit my car the best. I was never under any pressure to buy any oil from himself. ( But I did anyway - its only right I think, plus the price was very good )
I ordered the oil, and it came the next day.
I cannot say a bad word about the bloke. Fantastic service.
His web-site is - www.opieoils.co.uk
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BTW, the oil I got was Silkolene 10/50
I ordered the oil, and it came the next day.
I cannot say a bad word about the bloke. Fantastic service.
His web-site is - www.opieoils.co.uk
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BTW, the oil I got was Silkolene 10/50
27 August 2006, 09:34 PM
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I cant remember the exact price off the top of me head Pete, I just paid for it.
I think it was thirty summat quid for 5L delivered. I dont know exactly until I get me bill. It was something around that price I remember.
Oooh, and the oil was purple in colour also which made a pleasant change
This is the exact oil from his web-site
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/performanc...d%2010w-50.pdf
Its listed at 43 quid, but im sure it didn't cost me that, infact im positive it didn't.
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I think it was thirty summat quid for 5L delivered. I dont know exactly until I get me bill. It was something around that price I remember.
Oooh, and the oil was purple in colour also which made a pleasant change
This is the exact oil from his web-site
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/performanc...d%2010w-50.pdf
Its listed at 43 quid, but im sure it didn't cost me that, infact im positive it didn't.
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27 August 2006, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RapidSeven
II think it was thirty summat quid for 5L delivered. I dont know exactly until I get me bill. It was something around that price I remember.
Its listed at 43 quid, but im sure it didn't cost me that, infact im positive it didn't.
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Its listed at 43 quid, but im sure it didn't cost me that, infact im positive it didn't.
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All absolute poppycock of course ............. and yes, at £30+ for 5 Litres I am VERY sure that they were nice and friendly and chatty and 'helpful' whilst parting you from your money!!
£14:99 is ALL you NEED pay for Oil to put in the Scooby ....... if paying more than twice as much gives you a warm feeling, then, by all means pay it
My Motor Factor, selling me the Oil at £14:99, is making a nice fat profit!!
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27 August 2006, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
No-one ever pays what the RPI is ......... they will 'cut-you-a-deal' that makes you think you have got a bargain!! It's an old marketing trick - oilman used to come on here (and every other car BBS) stating that they have an offer on. If it was in March, then it was a Spring Offer - August, it was a Summer Clearout - December, a Xmas Special Gift Offer!!
All absolute poppycock of course ............. and yes, at £30+ for 5 Litres I am VERY sure that they were nice and friendly and chatty and 'helpful' whilst parting you from your money!!
£14:99 is ALL you NEED pay for Oil to put in the Scooby ....... if paying more than twice as much gives you a warm feeling, then, by all means pay it
My Motor Factor, selling me the Oil at £14:99, is making a nice fat profit!!
Pete
All absolute poppycock of course ............. and yes, at £30+ for 5 Litres I am VERY sure that they were nice and friendly and chatty and 'helpful' whilst parting you from your money!!
£14:99 is ALL you NEED pay for Oil to put in the Scooby ....... if paying more than twice as much gives you a warm feeling, then, by all means pay it
My Motor Factor, selling me the Oil at £14:99, is making a nice fat profit!!
Pete
Its like, whats the best pop, Netto Cola or Coca-Cola, taste similar, look similar, priced differently but give either one to a thirsty 5 year old on a summers day and he wont be bothered which one he has.
Call me old school, but like I said I think in most cases you get what you pay for, and for your pride and joy, id put the best stuff I can in it if im being honest regardless of cost ( thats the cost of oil mind in comparison ! )
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27 August 2006, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by gaz-cole
got to agree with you pete its in the can what counts not whats written on it
Buy some normal oil (good quality,mind!) re-packege it - market it well, call it some fancy name like RallyX - Sliko - MuchoCosto and the daft will fall for it!
50 is WAY too thick for the Scooby Engine anyway!!! - it's like frigging treacle!! 40 is what you need (maybe even 30 if you rarely get up to hot temps.)
5W is good for the winter months but 10W is a good all-rounder.
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27 August 2006, 10:46 PM
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Ok then Gaz and Pete, let me ask you this,
Just for arguments sake,
If you were offered a free 5lt carton of oil, which would you take, the stuff you put in your car ( £10 and £14.99 oil for 5lts ) or the Silkolene stuff at 45 quid ?
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Just for arguments sake,
If you were offered a free 5lt carton of oil, which would you take, the stuff you put in your car ( £10 and £14.99 oil for 5lts ) or the Silkolene stuff at 45 quid ?
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27 August 2006, 10:51 PM
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I would put the Silkolene in - if they were both FREE.
Thats NOT because I believe it's better - it's because I am saving more money (and I simply cannot resist that!!)
One thing I DO know - it will NOT protect my engine any better on my 6-monthly oil change regime!!
If I wanted to change my Oil after, say 2 years, then I WOULD choose the Fully Synthetic!!
But remember one thing - the £40 Oil AND the £15 Oil (if both Fully Synthetic) are tested and pass the very SAME specs and standards!!!
One is called 'Silkolene RallyX Plus Special Impreza Blend' ..... the other is called Halfords Fully Synthetic. Thats an expensive name to pay for!!!!
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Thats NOT because I believe it's better - it's because I am saving more money (and I simply cannot resist that!!)
One thing I DO know - it will NOT protect my engine any better on my 6-monthly oil change regime!!
If I wanted to change my Oil after, say 2 years, then I WOULD choose the Fully Synthetic!!
But remember one thing - the £40 Oil AND the £15 Oil (if both Fully Synthetic) are tested and pass the very SAME specs and standards!!!
One is called 'Silkolene RallyX Plus Special Impreza Blend' ..... the other is called Halfords Fully Synthetic. Thats an expensive name to pay for!!!!
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27 August 2006, 10:52 PM
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in all honestly mate id take the stuff i have been useing for years and trust i use the the same stuff in my whole familys car weather performance or not but fact of the matter is its your choice what to use and makes you feel more comfortable.
27 August 2006, 11:00 PM
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must admit, last time i did my oil it was around £13 for 5 litres of texaco havoline semi synth from asda
10/40 i think?
texaco is a dam good make as well IMO, reminds me i might as well do it again before the ****e weather starts up for winter
10/40 i think?
texaco is a dam good make as well IMO, reminds me i might as well do it again before the ****e weather starts up for winter
27 August 2006, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
But remember one thing - the £40 Oil AND the £15 Oil (if both Fully Synthetic) are tested and pass the very SAME specs and standards!!!
I think it boils down to mostly cost, with a bit of preference on which brand thrown in for good measure, if we were all cashed up to the b0ll0cks, we'd put the best stuff in, which 9 out of 10 cases is the most expensive !!
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27 August 2006, 11:30 PM
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I must agree to disagree with you there matey, if that was the case, why is it that most Subaru performance specialists and other performance specialists etc use Millers oils or Silkolene at 40 quid, and not the 15 quid stuff ?
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Don't get me wrong ....... if it makes you happy, then do it!
In answer to your question about the 'Specialists' ..... lets see now - they can either:-
1. Put good quality Oil in and charge the Customer £15 for it, this Oil is the Oil SUBARU recommend!!! (SUBARU are the 'specialists' who designed and built your machine, by the way!) ... this Oil costs the outfit £8
PROFIT = £7
2. Put equally good quality Oil in and charge the customer £40 for it, Subaru do NOT recommend this Oil as they realise that it is out-of-spec. ... this Oil costs the outfit £12
PROFIT = £28
I won't insult your intelligence by spelling out why the 'Specialists' convince you that you 'need' the £40 Oil ..................
The TRUE specialists, SUBARU, do NOT recommend such Oil ......... Guess who I listen to!!
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28 August 2006, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
No-one ever pays what the RPI is ......... they will 'cut-you-a-deal' that makes you think you have got a bargain!! It's an old marketing trick
£14:99 is ALL you NEED pay for Oil to put in the Scooby ....... if paying more than twice as much gives you a warm feeling, then, by all means pay it
My Motor Factor, selling me the Oil at £14:99, is making a nice fat profit!!
Pete
£14:99 is ALL you NEED pay for Oil to put in the Scooby ....... if paying more than twice as much gives you a warm feeling, then, by all means pay it
My Motor Factor, selling me the Oil at £14:99, is making a nice fat profit!!
Pete
-a pack of 4 of the comma 10-40 semi synth is about £28 inc vat if you ask for it richie
28 August 2006, 01:06 PM
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yep and people who pay the RPI in a factors are the biggest fools of all -a pack of 4 of the comma 10-40 semi synth is about £28 inc vat if you ask for it
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-a pack of 4 of the comma 10-40 semi synth is about £28 inc vat if you ask for it richie
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28 August 2006, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I get 10% off at my factors ........... your point being??
Pete
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if you had asked for 4 rather than just the one you'd have got it for less than half price
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28 August 2006, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobfan
15W-40 OR 15W-50 no less
And thats from one of the countrys top engine builders.
Rob
And thats from one of the countrys top engine builders.
Rob
And thats from one of The Worlds biggest car designers, builders and world rally champions.
The engine builders in the UK can suck my *****!!
When a company invests £Millions into a product and they tell me how to lubricate it - I will be taking their advice
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28 August 2006, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RapidSeven
lol, I reckon Oilman is needed
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He gets short shift on here ...... he is the 'Cut-n-Paste' King of the Internet!!
He's a Salesman - NOT an Engineer
He's HydroCracked!! and his wifes name is Ester!!
Pete