w.smith

hello,
this is my first post on behalf of a mate,

he brought a 'p' plate wrx sti on friday for 6k
on the way back from santa pod on saturday the big ends went and we came back with the aa man. as you can expect he is gutted.

how much can he expect to pay for a fix?
whats envolved in the fix?

and finally who is best around the herts area?

thanks guys and girls.

smithy.

fitzscoob

You can speak to www.xtremescoobies.co.uk who are in chelmsford. Used them all the time when I had my car.

Price wise, well its not going to be cheap. Best let the pros price it up otherwise you will get lots of speculative prices. As a guideline the bill wont be in the hundreds.

Paul3446

Less than £100 sounds quite reasonable!

Also try Special Scoobys in Colchester who are pretty good!

fitzscoob

I meant more than...

kingofturds

iTrader: (1)

Did the bloke who sold your mate the car look like this by any chance . Seriously though did your mate not hear any knocking sounds when he took it for a test drive? seems pretty strange that the big ends go 24 hours after matey sells the car

w.smith

no the car was running sweet untill that happened.

where does he stand with this trader?
im f**king screwing and its not even my car.

i think the seller wants him to payhalf and he will pick up the rest.
i still think its b*llox and he should front the whole bill.

Tidgy

warrenty and hes not gonna have to pay a penny.

only problem is, was he running at pod or just parked up to watch?

kingofturds

iTrader: (1)

If it was from a trader then ,as said he should not have to pay a penny. Although you may want to keep it quiet about going to the pod

Shark Man

The cost depedns on how far it's gone like that. I.e did it throw a rod out the block or not?

Minimum cost will be for new crank, any affected rods, new bearings, piston rings, gasket set, and associated labour in stripping, measuring, cleaning and building.

Just need to be careful, as some places will push you to have an entire new engine or replace stuff that doesn't need doing, which is obviously going to cost alot more.

What fuel was the car running on? Is the owner aware (current and previous)of the issue with UK fuel in Jap imports, and has teh car been remapped to suit? If not, then herein lies possible cause for the failure.

But I must add, it would have happened over a period of time, and excess wear from overloaded bearings would have occured and built up long before your friend aquired the car, although the hard blasts a new owner usually gives a scooby is enough to finish them off.

Tidgy

thats what i was thinking lol

w.smith

he didnt go up the pod,
we were just spectators.

he didnt ask about warranty when he got the car stupidly.
he does have a reciept for 6k.

does the seller have to pay or can he tell him to **** off?

Tidgy

not a prob then as far as pod goes, and if its a trader he will have to pay. think by law he has 14 days to decided against buying it anyway, aka cool off period. but he should have a warrenty

GC8

I dont believe that its as clear-cut as people are making out and I will explain why. Its not uncommon for cars like this to fail shortly after purchase and in a lot of cases its down to the way that they are driven and the fuel that is used. If the car has developed a new fault or if a pre-existing fault has caused this failure then you certainly should be covered (in this case by the statutory warranty provided by the dealer). If the failure has been caused by the new owner ragging the **** off the car or using wholly unsuitable fuel (or both!); then the dealer isnt liable in any respect. Because the big end bearings have failed itll be quite difficult to establish exactly whats happened: if I was the dealer Id only meet the repair costs if you could prove that you hadnt caused the failure in a previously sound engine.....

Simon

Tidgy

kinda presumed that tbh, but to kill a car in 2 days you'd have to do something major major bad. Norm clutch goes if anything cos of hard launch's so i've been told.
What would cause big ends to go? is it a part that would die first from abuse? or would a weeker part fail before them? (bit over my head if you hadn't guessed lol)

w.smith

well the car was filled with 97ron and we were in traffic when it happened.

i think the car was sound because we had been for a blast the night before and there was no probs.

it was fine the way there and we didnt do the pod and took it easy on the way back.

i think its just bad luck and im not sure where he stands.

or wheather there is anbything he can do.

Tidgy

well if he's not abused it and put super inn it he should be a in agood position to get full cost of build payed.

just out of interest to the people in the know out there, would overheating cause big end failure?

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

What about mileage, service history/regular maintenance as well as fuel, it only takes the tanker driver to put unleaded into the super tank on the forecourt and hey presto
Oh and the over heating.... good chance that could have caused a failure

Tony

The Chief

This happened to MY99 Classic - big ends went pop- literally 2 weeks out of warrenty, legally not a leg to stand on but I had a chat and we came to an amicable arrangment - not the full amount but a reasonable percentage of the repair bill.

GC8

I wouldnt like to find myself in this position; but a contribution of 50% towards an API rebuild isnt such a bad offer. You also have to allow for betterment. People suggesting that the punter is entitled to what amounts a 'new engine' are mistaken. If it can be established that the failure wasnt caused by the new owner, then theyre entitled to be put back into the position that they were in before and this means that the fitting of a used engine would be acceptable (probably not to the cars owner though.....).

Simon

GC8

Without a doubt 97RON is not good enough for a D-Series STI. This car was designed to run on 100RON fuel (unlike earlier JDMs whichll run happily on 97RON); and the ECU is notoriously poor when it comes to adapting or attempting to deal with detonation.

In light of this, if i was the supplying dealer then Id withdraw my offer and let you litigate. Not necessarily fair as the previous owner probably did far more damage than the current one, but thats life.....


Simon