Scoobylambo

where can I find out the following....

01-04 wrx 0-60 & bhp

01-04 wrx PPP 0-60 & bhp

01-04 sti 0-60 & bhp

01-04 sti PPP 0-60 & bhp

thanks

IN THE STICKS

Here and here should help ......http://www.subaru.co.uk/IMGGB/WWW/Su...0STi%20PPP.pdf

http://www.subaru.co.uk/IMGGB/WWW/Su...0WRX%20PPP.pdf

Dave

Scoobylambo

thanks, its just I'm looking for an impreza and I don't know which one to get...WRX PPP or STI or STI PPP.....?

corradoboy

If you can afford it, an 03> STiPPP. 0-60 isn't a very good benchmark as the WRX PPP annihilates the standard STi, mainly due to not needing a change to 3rd to hit 60 as both have IRO 265bhp. On the road, the better suspension, better diffs, quicker steering and 6sp 'box make for a much more rapid road car, with much better tuning potential.

dmc1980

buy the sti, depends if your going for a new one, one in warranty or an older one, say 2002 whether you get the PPP or not. If your getting one with warranty, the PPP is the prerfect way to keep your warranty and give it that little bit extra. If its out of warranty, spend the extra money get some other mods, as you can get the same or more power from mods for a little less money.

Seriously, if you have the choice of buying either a WRX or a STI, go for the STI, you will appreciate it in the long run. The 2 cars are completely different, right down to the bushes in the suspension. You have a far better, far stronger engine, if and when you decide to do a little bit of tuning.

homerjay

i was in EXACTLY the same position as you 12 months ago and ended up buying an my03 sti ppp...anything less just wouldnt do...

luckily for you i am now selling it...

https://www.scoobynet.com/03-subaru-...a-t506902.html

Scoobylambo

so is a WRX PPP faster than a STI without PPP.???
thanks

corradoboy

0-60, yes. 4.8s vs. 5.2s IIRC. On the road, very little in it TBH. I've driven all the variants and the STi is more agile due to the diffs, changes direction better due to the rack, stops better due to the brakes and corners better due to the suspension. However, the 6sp 'box I find tiresome.

I have a WRX PPP and have no trouble keeping up with almost all others on the road, but I also have highly modified suspension. Given the choice to buy again I'd definately go STi, and if warranty wasn't an issue then I'd buy standard and go a different route than PPP, along with the awesome T25 suspension package.

corradoboy

As Homerjay is blagging his, have a look at MINE

Scoobylambo

really nice....just a tad too much for me ££

Scratch

iTrader: (1)

Or go for a classic JDM Sti if you can afford the import insurance.

Get better spec engine in a lighter chassis, and you can pick an Sti 5 up for about £6000 these days.

GC8

Surely 0-60mph and bhp figures arent what youre going to base your decision on? When you decide on the model will you be asking us to pick the colour to.....?

Scoobylambo

yea, what do ya think, black , blue or silver...... :-)

BELKIN

You should be looking for value for money not bloody bhp, when will you people learn, scoobys are the most over rated std performance car on the road, do your research before you spend your ££££.

Dai

hades

The WRX PPP and the STi are different cars, which one suits you depends on what you want. Standard STi - sod all power until almost 4,000rpm when it suddenly takes off, much harder ride, 6 speed box you need to work more, slightly "aggresive" front diff that helps speed but not necessarily smoothness. Handling and braking it'll beat a WRX comfortably, the engine can handle noticably more power, the gearbox and drivetrain can handle a lot more power / torque (WRX will break gearboxes, clutch etc around 320-350lbft, give or take). WRX PPP is more comfortable ride, with a much wider power spread that's IMHO much nicer for everyday driving, decent brakes if you fit new pads and preferably braided hoses, still handles well if geometry is set up right. Less raw, less ultimate potential for going fast, more of a comrpomise but still quick enough, which can make it the better everyday car for many.

As regards straight line performance, be aware that PPP's fitted in 01-02 ish were not the 265ish bhp version, but were only ~245 due to a less sophisticated ("piggyback" IIRC) ECU upgrade (newer ones had a Prodrive version of an Ecutek remap). If you're after an older WRX PPP, check which type of PPP it has.

The 265bhp WRX PPP will be similar all-out to a standard STi, but much better spread of power so e.g. a lot quiicker at say 70mph in top (which I personally think is a useful place to have power for normal use!)

hades

P.S. IIRC,the STi wasn't available as a UK model until 02, so any 01 is likely to be an import.

Scoobylambo

thanks for the help.
I had a bugeye WRX about 18months ago, but I really want something a bit quicker....also I'm not a fan of the flat spoiler.

corradoboy

Hades has it quite well summed up. A WRX like mine with the brakes, handling and chassis well sorted is more than a match (proven) for a standard STi, and will hold its own against an STi PPP. Tuning potential is limited thereafter, but for a near standard car with limited mod expenditure it is one outstanding road car. I have been up against many variations of Scoobs, and other marques, with little that I could call a significant challenge. But, given the choice to buy again, I'd definitely start with an STi. Add the T25 handling pack, some decent pads and lines, and a 350/350 bhp/torque package and I'd be a very happy man. Well, as long as I had enough cash left to replace 1st to 5th with stronger PPG cogs which match the 5sp 'box and an extended 6th to give 90mph cruising under boost

Scoobylambo

I better ask the wife about a re-mortgage then..... :-)

Daz34

http://www.letstorquebhp.com/4wd.asp

Martin2005

You're not on boost when cruising at 90mph anyway.. or shouldn't be

corradoboy

Probably used the wrong term, but my turbo spools up around 2700 and is raring to go by 3k, which is about 75mph in 5th on a WRX. If I do 68mph constant I get 33mpg, at 75mph I get 27mpg, and above 80 it's more like 22mpg. When I go to Devon (regularly) I can get there from Leeds on a single tank by staying under 2800 revs. Stray above it for too long and a fuel stop is needed below Bristol.

If I got an STi with a 6th that allowed 90 at 3k revs it would be ideal, given that the STi turbo spins up at about 3.5k and reaches boost at 4k.

Gear Head

iTrader: (2)

Where?? I'd love to know!

Diablo

Yes, but only under load and conditional on throttle position, not just revs.

But I think I know what you mean.

Jap Import

BHP ! It's all in the torque