Disappointing results on the RR
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Disappointing results on the RR
Went to Dastek on friday, only to achieve 315bhp & 275lb/torque.
I was expecting to make around the TSL(330/333) package mark, or even higher as with the money saved on the package route, i opted for Harveys headers #2.
Setup:
Full Afterburner decat exhaust, simota panel filter, walbro fuel pump, ported & wrapped headers and up-pipe.
I was expecting to make around the TSL(330/333) package mark, or even higher as with the money saved on the package route, i opted for Harveys headers #2.
Setup:
Full Afterburner decat exhaust, simota panel filter, walbro fuel pump, ported & wrapped headers and up-pipe.
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Originally Posted by GazTheHat
Went to Dastek on friday, only to achieve 315bhp & 275lb/torque.
I was expecting to make around the TSL(330/333) package mark, or even higher as with the money saved on the package route, i opted for Harveys headers #2.
Setup:
Full Afterburner decat exhaust, simota panel filter, walbro fuel pump, ported & wrapped headers and up-pipe.
I was expecting to make around the TSL(330/333) package mark, or even higher as with the money saved on the package route, i opted for Harveys headers #2.
Setup:
Full Afterburner decat exhaust, simota panel filter, walbro fuel pump, ported & wrapped headers and up-pipe.
Ns04
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Dastek has sensationally good cooling and the dyno compensates for the temperature. 340 BHP at Dastek is typically induction, FMIC, TD05, tubular headers, remap territory for example, so 333 isn't a walk in the park on this (realistic IMHO) dyno.
My car did 20 BHP less and 60 lbft less than Dyno Dynamics in the same spec running at Dastek.
I believe the Dastek figures personally and think your result is reasonable, the turbo you have on there is tiny, too many wild claim dyno figures about.
My car did 20 BHP less and 60 lbft less than Dyno Dynamics in the same spec running at Dastek.
I believe the Dastek figures personally and think your result is reasonable, the turbo you have on there is tiny, too many wild claim dyno figures about.
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Does it feel fast??
Does it do what you want of it??
WHY oh WHY all this childish geeky infatuation with BHP???
BHP varies on a daily basis, so whats the friggin point of a RR??
OK, OK, OK, it gets a bunch of billy-no-mates together to massage each others egos and get-off on paper graphs ................... but, is that REALLY what life is all about??
Pete
Does it do what you want of it??
WHY oh WHY all this childish geeky infatuation with BHP???
BHP varies on a daily basis, so whats the friggin point of a RR??
OK, OK, OK, it gets a bunch of billy-no-mates together to massage each others egos and get-off on paper graphs ................... but, is that REALLY what life is all about??
Pete
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It's been mapped by AndyF.
It wasn't overly hot in Dalgety Bay (nr. Fife), i think 21 degrees.
Apparently was holding 1.35bar boost.
Just a bit miffed by the torque, thought it would be loads more than that. Certainly feels it. I just wandered if the exhaust was letting it down being 2.5".
It wasn't overly hot in Dalgety Bay (nr. Fife), i think 21 degrees.
Apparently was holding 1.35bar boost.
Just a bit miffed by the torque, thought it would be loads more than that. Certainly feels it. I just wandered if the exhaust was letting it down being 2.5".
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Originally Posted by GazTheHat
Certainly feels it. I just wandered if the exhaust was letting it down being 2.5".
The exhaust isn't letting the car down ........ I'll give you 3 guesses who is!!!
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Originally Posted by john banks
Dastek has sensationally good cooling and the dyno compensates for the temperature. 340 BHP at Dastek is typically induction, FMIC, TD05, tubular headers, remap territory for example, so 333 isn't a walk in the park on this (realistic IMHO) dyno.
My car did 20 BHP less and 60 lbft less than Dyno Dynamics in the same spec running at Dastek.
I believe the Dastek figures personally and think your result is reasonable, the turbo you have on there is tiny, too many wild claim dyno figures about.
My car did 20 BHP less and 60 lbft less than Dyno Dynamics in the same spec running at Dastek.
I believe the Dastek figures personally and think your result is reasonable, the turbo you have on there is tiny, too many wild claim dyno figures about.
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Does it feel fast??
Does it do what you want of it??
WHY oh WHY all this childish geeky infatuation with BHP???
BHP varies on a daily basis, so whats the friggin point of a RR??
OK, OK, OK, it gets a bunch of billy-no-mates together to massage each others egos and get-off on paper graphs ................... but, is that REALLY what life is all about??
Pete
Does it do what you want of it??
WHY oh WHY all this childish geeky infatuation with BHP???
BHP varies on a daily basis, so whats the friggin point of a RR??
OK, OK, OK, it gets a bunch of billy-no-mates together to massage each others egos and get-off on paper graphs ................... but, is that REALLY what life is all about??
Pete
It's got f-all to do with massaging ego's or the like or bragging rights. I don't go to shows/meets or the like (but i might sometime) so can't show it off. Having spent all the money and reading all about upgrades, modification routes etc, i wanted to see in figures what it had achieved.
Go correct someones spelling or talk about cheap replacement parts in someone else's thread, if you've got nothing constructive to say.
Yes it drives superb, but i want more already!!
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So i've just got to wait for a cold day then and try again, that should be in July sometime then up here
And if you think you've got a loud car, you should hear their (Dastek) WRX. It is menacing!!
And if you think you've got a loud car, you should hear their (Dastek) WRX. It is menacing!!
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If its not giving the figures you expect then the only thing to do is re-run it on the dyno at a later date, maybe it could be a bad batch of fuel? Heat soak etc.
If you still dont get the figures you are looking for you have a problem and I would take it to another RR just for a 3rd opinion before you start to look a possible problem, after all 15bhp down is only 5% out so could just be the RR.
If you still dont get the figures you are looking for you have a problem and I would take it to another RR just for a 3rd opinion before you start to look a possible problem, after all 15bhp down is only 5% out so could just be the RR.
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Originally Posted by GazTheHat
It's been mapped by AndyF.
It wasn't overly hot in Dalgety Bay (nr. Fife), i think 21 degrees.
Apparently was holding 1.35bar boost.
Just a bit miffed by the torque, thought it would be loads more than that. Certainly feels it. I just wandered if the exhaust was letting it down being 2.5".
It wasn't overly hot in Dalgety Bay (nr. Fife), i think 21 degrees.
Apparently was holding 1.35bar boost.
Just a bit miffed by the torque, thought it would be loads more than that. Certainly feels it. I just wandered if the exhaust was letting it down being 2.5".
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Had mine on the Rollers on Saturday
Produced 326BHP and 344 ft/lbs torque
back in Febuary on a icy morning Produced 346bhp and 369ft/lbs
I would have said it was the heat of the day
Produced 326BHP and 344 ft/lbs torque
back in Febuary on a icy morning Produced 346bhp and 369ft/lbs
I would have said it was the heat of the day
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Originally Posted by GC8
So many factors can affect a brake dyno reading; gearbox oil temperature and tyre pressures for example... A brake is really only useful for comparisons but I wouldnt worry, myself.
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Why does a hot day make any difference?
When mine was on a RR here in Germany they had 3 huge, massive, enormous fans blowing cold air directly onto the front of the car!!!
When mine was on a RR here in Germany they had 3 huge, massive, enormous fans blowing cold air directly onto the front of the car!!!
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Thanks for all the comments.
It seems that it was my lack of knowledge of rollers and that is a good figure (Paul did say that the PPP's only make 275-285 there), especially for Dastek.
AndyF is gonna time the accerleration on his lappy compared to a TSL mapped car, so that should be interesting.
It seems that it was my lack of knowledge of rollers and that is a good figure (Paul did say that the PPP's only make 275-285 there), especially for Dastek.
AndyF is gonna time the accerleration on his lappy compared to a TSL mapped car, so that should be interesting.
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Originally Posted by Floyd
2.5 shouldn't be restriction at this power level.
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Originally Posted by RB5_245
That's a good result at dastek, take it down south and run again if you want more power
Or AVA in paisly... you should make about 300 at the wheels there
Or AVA in paisly... you should make about 300 at the wheels there
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Originally Posted by XRS
I had the same issue last week at PowerStation. Only made 330/340 but I'll try again in the cooler weather.
what figures were you hoping for?
Martin
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Watch what you say Dave. You may upset some people.
Made me feel good the day my RB ran 185 at the wheels bog std (non PPP)