yodajedimaster

As above, your thoughts?

From what I've read the WRX models are 270 bhp standard using optimax and fuel additives and a standard UK classic is 214bhp. What are peoples personal experiences on the differences on the road between the two standard?

There is reason behind my thinking after a short blast tonight.

Robert.

95blackWRX

yeah imports are quicker than uk cars this is helped by the import gearbox more suited to the quick sprint but uk gets better fuel economy u get better spec with an import to such as air con and stuff. I think it is around 40 bhp difference between the two if they are in standard trim

scooby-tc

iTrader: (2)

where did you read that 93-95 wrx is 240 ps 96-97 260ps 98-00 280ps all on 100RON fuel and yes they are noticeably quicker than a uk classic turbo providing you are comparing standard models

esp ltd

iTrader: (1)

You should most certainly be a bit quicker with your import than a UK car as long as your car is set up properly, some of the most modded cars i've brought in from Japan have been a tad dissapointing to say the least. If your import has been thrashed for years and goes up against a nice looked after UK car then the chances are you'll get ya *** kicked!!
I've just sold a Colin Macrae with 103k under her belt but with a fantastic Subaru history that would definately keep up with or even beat many imported WRX cars as she ran so well and had been kept in tip tip order.
Just had in an STI Type UK tonight (it's a hard old life eh!!) and i do find this noticeable slower than the Jap type i had in last week even though she's a low miler with FSH.
Dave.

95blackWRX

well i have a 95 wrx import that came standard and i have all documents from japan all saying 260 bhp

95blackWRX

the import to have a different gearbox ratios than uk cars u find ur self changing gear alot quicker in the import i have driven my import and friends uk and there is a difference

yodajedimaster

I have a MY95 Classic Wagon and had a brief encounter with a WRX saloon this evening from 2nd, 3rd, 4th and just sat on his tail easily, really thought it would pull away dramatically. Probably running a litle rough.

Nice blast.

Robert.

RedScoob

95 WRX is 260ps - imports tend to be a little quicker.

95blackWRX

must have been rough because correct me if i am wrong but do the wagons not run less boost than the saloons and u only see a difference if both cars are standard which is rare these days

95blackWRX

what is difference between ps and bhp

RedScoob

Just a different standard for measuring power - 260ps=256bhp

95blackWRX

not much difference tho 3 or 4 bhp

StudentScooby

The UKs need a remap to wipe the smile off the imports face....

scooby-tc

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imports need a remap to prevent them going Bang!!

MickWrx

TD05 makes huge difference IMHO having owned two WRX's and driven the UK turbo.

Never re-mapped any of my imports and have imported them both myself, so they were never done prior to my ownership, and have not gone bang

The JDM's have alloy bits and bobs that decreases the over all weight too, and less weight equals better performance.

[Davey]

Its called slip streaming

Deano1983

Only if you dont keep up with the services and put the right fuel in!!!

pnbond007

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Mine is

JTaylor

95blackWRX

imports do not need mapped to prevent the engine going bang biggest load of **** i have ever heard. think thats what people tell them selves to ,ake them feel better about buying a slower, heavier uk car

fulla

your spot on mate,have had a couple of imports which i have shipped over myself,carried out mods and never had a re-map never had any problems although i do look aftter them well, regular servicing and decent fuel.
i think people are far too paranoid,and as far as iam concerned i always have and always will buy jap

StiX

iTrader: (4)

I'm in a perfect position to comment on this, as my first scoob was a MY95 WRX and current a MY00 UK Turbo.


The WRX was fully decatted with a green filter, standard TD05 and no remap run on Optimax alone (Z4 ecu no activity on knocklink, naturally upped boost via decat).

Didn't dyno it but guesstimated 270bhp - 256bhp standard (but on 100 ron) so about 250, plus about 20 from decat and filter.


When I bought the MY00, bog standard apart from Magnex centre and backbox.

The WRX was definitely much quicker. When I bought the MY00 a dyno printout came with it 215.5bhp - bog standard power even with Magnex backbox (dyno'd before centre decat).

When I had the WRX, had a couple of gentle 'plays' with some UK turbos and an RB5 and it was noticeably quicker.


Since I have bought the MY00 however, after Ninja Sports Cat, JR panel filter and an Ecutek3 remap I am now running 273bhp/273lbft.

It now feels just as fast as the WRX did, so I reckon the WRX was running 270ish as I originally thought.


Although the MY00 has TD04, and the WRX had a TD05 I must admit that from memory they feel very similar - I remember the WRX spooling up @ 2500 ish as does the MY00.

gotmashed

dont wagons have less bhp and smaller turbos over the saloon wrx ?

geesta

95blackWRX and Fulla your bang on fellas

Dr Who

Some interesting responses,
Re Evo magazine Sept 99 did a greatest 4x4 of the time,
A 215 BHP UK turbo lapped Mira in 49.5 secs, A 276 BHP STI Version V lapped Mira in 49.5 secs, A 237 BHP RB5 did it in 48.0 secs
Proves the point, more BHP doesn't guarantee the fastest car !

Scott.T

iTrader: (2)

WRX upto Sept 1994 won't be alot different to a UK from 1994 - 2000.
Upto 1994 WRX were only 240ps on 100RON, so that's probably about 220BHP (ish) on 97RON.
They will 'feel' quicker, however due to the different gearing.

They also run exactky the same boost pressure @ 11.47psi, but a slightly different ignition & fuel map.

Also to clear a few things up.. UK Wagons have TD05 Turbo's and are the same as saloons. WRX Wagons are TD04 and only 220ps. So a WRX wagon would probably be slower then a UK wagon or saloon.

scooby-tc

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unfortunately in the Uk up until recently we didnt have 100 RON fuel which is what the imports are designed to run on therefore for safety its recommended to map the cars to run on UK fuel either that or chuck loads of OB in the tank

Mick

iTrader: (1)

My 97MY uk turbo2000 60k miles, with only a STi7 rear box and Pipercross panel filter - running on 1/2 tesco unleaded & 1/2 optimax clocked 241.9 bhp recently...

Mick

95blackWRX

subarus are originally made in japan so my thinking is the people that make them are the best at it instead of some uk company trying to copy them

95blackWRX

they are japanese cars not uk cars leave it to the people that know what there doing. I dont want a copy