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Old 02 May 2006, 08:27 PM
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All other issues aside (and without intentionally scaremongering) be careful when posting stories of your illegal exploits. BBS users are simply and legally traced.
Old 02 May 2006, 09:10 PM
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That is correct; but a post here cant be used as evidence alone. The small number of documented cases where BBS users have been prosecuted have all used confessions.....
Old 02 May 2006, 09:13 PM
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A post on here could be considered as a confession under PACE.
Old 02 May 2006, 09:59 PM
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I disagree, its little more than hearsay and easily dismissed as bravado: the anonymous nature of the internet only adds to the credibility of this as a defence. Wherever people have been foolish to boast about their dishonesty/stupidity on BBSs such as this: theyve been prosecuted after confessing during an interview.


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Old 02 May 2006, 10:04 PM
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I did 145 on the a38 today
Old 02 May 2006, 10:16 PM
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so say i managed 210 in my impreza would that be enough evidence to prosecute me.. I don't think so. There needs to be a rather large factor called evidence! it needs to be established that beyond resonable doubt that it actually happended and im afraid that won't happen from any posts that have been written! (obviously my car can't do 210!! and any comments expressed are purely my opinion and may be of a factual basis but also may be of an enirely un-factual basis)
Old 02 May 2006, 10:43 PM
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Are the Law really that desperate to start trolling BBS in the hope of a catch

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Old 02 May 2006, 10:43 PM
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I think Simon has just said that...

The people who were done for "confessing" on t'internet were hauled into a room and shown what they'd posted, then they blubbed and admitted it all
Old 02 May 2006, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by GC8
I disagree, its little more than hearsay and easily dismissed as bravado:

Hearsay is a different thing altogether and is "information" that has come through a 3rd party. Anything you write on this board could be a confession, to the other users, under PACE. Whether it could be dismissed or not would be a decision for the CPS and the courts and, as you say, would probably depend upon other evidence. An additional confession would be useful to have but I don't believe it would be necessary and it would be interesting to see the position of other users of the forum if PACE were to be applied to a confession made on here.
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i did 150 on the m40 !! (sorry that should read 1.50 as in one hour and 50 mins) lol

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Originally Posted by tath
I think Simon has just said that...

The people who were done for "confessing" on t'internet were hauled into a room and shown what they'd posted, then they blubbed and admitted it all
sorry I spoke
Old 02 May 2006, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 84of300
Are the Law really that desperate to start trolling BBS in the hope of a catch
Yes they are. In fact if you search back through my posts you will find that I have, on several occasions and despite accusations of paranoia, documented the fact that both police and camera partnerships now read "motoring related" internet forums in search of evil wrong-doers.

Being a cop is such a stressful job these days, you've just got your 3rd donut and coffee of the day when you surf over to SN and spot a possible post admitting to a crime. It's all go from then on as you track down the evil menace to society and bring them to justice. You need ***** of steel and to be a real man to do a job like that, why I remember the time when... etc. etc.
Old 02 May 2006, 10:50 PM
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so if the plod do read this site then they would know the crap my bf just went through with his car? well if that was the case, wouldn't they then do something about it? or would we have to report it to them?
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Originally Posted by hedgehog
Yes they are. In fact if you search back through my posts you will find that I have, on several occasions and despite accusations of paranoia, documented the fact that both police and camera partnerships now read "motoring related" internet forums in search of evil wrong-doers.

Being a cop is such a stressful job these days, you've just got your 3rd donut and coffee of the day when you surf over to SN and spot a possible post admitting to a crime. It's all go from then on as you track down the evil menace to society and bring them to justice. You need ***** of steel and to be a real man to do a job like that, why I remember the time when... etc. etc.
Thanks hedgehog After watching Dispatches last week, anything is possible
Old 02 May 2006, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 84of300
sorry I spoke
I was simply clarifying
Old 02 May 2006, 11:07 PM
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On my way to work today, I bashed a old grannie on the head and stole her purse.


Hope plod aint reading, ill get community service and a telling off!
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There was a guy in Hull bragging off about how he could afford a new BMW - hinting that he was a drug dealer.

It was read by Plod and they used the website material to get a warranty and turned up at his house for a dawn raid and he got banged up. No confession required. The story was well covered in the press and on national news. (The website was Friends Reunited). Cue conspiracy theorists on how this was a media conspiracy between the Government, Police and Media to scare BBS users

It can happen - although speeding is clearly harder to corroborate. What is not is someone describing all their mods, getting caught up in a fatacc and then trying to prove their car is road legal - which it may well not be - for example.

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Old 02 May 2006, 11:18 PM
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Getting a warranty on a BMW is usually quite expensive
Old 02 May 2006, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by hedgehog
A post on here could be considered as a confession under PACE.
Bull****.

You are talking complete and utter ****ing bollocks

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Old 02 May 2006, 11:34 PM
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I have one message for the PloD, and I really do hope they are reading (assuming they can read) . . .

Please go somewhere and feel free to have an accident!And stop wasting public money by monitoring us!
Old 03 May 2006, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by WRX300MAN
I have one message for the PloD, and I really do hope they are reading (assuming they can read) . . .

Please go somewhere and feel free to have an accident!And stop wasting public money by monitoring us!
Typical Childish Remark......
Old 03 May 2006, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by TAINTON
Typical Childish Remark......
Well this is Scoobynet
Old 03 May 2006, 10:41 AM
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I can assure you that I have had the police knocking on my door, as a direct result of something written on Scoobynet.

The PC even had the thread printed off.

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Just to be clear, 99% of the time these incidents where people have had their comments off forums used in court have been discovered by chance and then flagged up to the relevant force etc, not as routine. Obviously there are certain forums / areas of the net where the BiB do have dedicated staff to monitor and gather evidence - which is fair enough.

However, its worth remembering that everything you say online can often be traced back and you could be held accountable.

Now, on a more relevant note, IM read these forums as a matter of routine...
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Originally Posted by hedgehog
A post on here could be considered as a confession under PACE.
What is PACE??
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he bought your old exhaust dave?
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Police And Criminal Evidence
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Originally Posted by TAINTON
Typical Childish Remark......
Sorry Dad! Please don't have me arrested!
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Originally Posted by Rannoch
Well this is Scoobynet
You have a very good point there and I shall leave it at that
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Originally Posted by Rannoch
Police And Criminal Evidence
Which only applies in England & Wales. We don't have it in Scotland and corroboration is also required for a conviction


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