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Old 22 January 2006, 06:56 PM
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Currently looking for a new car

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Mitsubushi Evo7/8 FQ300
Scoob STi 8 PPP

I want both to be standard spec

How do I tell if an STi has PPP fitted any was it when it was new or after (big differance in insurance quotes).

Does the log book have PPP on it? of do I have to look for bills?

Cheers for the help

I would try searching but google comes up with about 1000000 hits LOL
Old 22 January 2006, 06:59 PM
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All STi's or WRx's with PPP come with a Certificate to prove it's been fitted, it also tells you when and what the mileage was when fitted.
Old 22 January 2006, 07:02 PM
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why would the insurance alter if the ppp was done later rather than when it was new
Old 22 January 2006, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy S.
Currently looking for a new car

Choices are

Mitsubushi Evo7/8 FQ300
Scoob STi 8 PPP

I want both to be standard spec

How do I tell if an STi has PPP fitted any was it when it was new or after (big differance in insurance quotes).

Does the log book have PPP on it? of do I have to look for bills?

Cheers for the help

I would try searching but google comes up with about 1000000 hits LOL
If the car has PPP then the owner should have a certificate from Prodrive saying that PPP has been fitted. If they don't then I wouldn't buy it, even if it was a dealer. Some dealers, I believe, tell people that they can get a new certificate from prodrive just so they can shift the car, but getting the certificate seems to have proven tricky to several people on here.

If you wanted to you could try and buy the alleged PPP'd vehicle without a cert at a non-PPP price...you never know.

NEVER just take someone's word that it has been PPP'd just cos u can see a single exhaust and a blue hose or two

Rich
Old 22 January 2006, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by bob r
why would the insurance alter if the ppp was done later rather than when it was new
I have no idea why but the insurance co has told me that if it was bought new with PPP then it is not modified but if the PPP was added after it is a modified vehicle!! stupid I know but about £150 a year difference!!
Old 22 January 2006, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by NorthDownsScooby
If the car has PPP then the owner should have a certificate from Prodrive saying that PPP has been fitted. If they don't then I wouldn't buy it, even if it was a dealer. Some dealers, I believe, tell people that they can get a new certificate from prodrive just so they can shift the car, but getting the certificate seems to have proven tricky to several people on here.

If you wanted to you could try and buy the alleged PPP'd vehicle without a cert at a non-PPP price...you never know.

NEVER just take someone's word that it has been PPP'd just cos u can see a single exhaust and a blue hose or two

Rich
Cheers that is exactly why I was asking.
Old 22 January 2006, 07:15 PM
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What is PPP? (I have heard the term, just new to Impreza's and got to get used to the acronyms!)
Old 22 January 2006, 07:24 PM
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Prodrive performance pack takes STI from 265 to 305 Bhp,WRX from 220ish to 265. also subaru will still do warranty work on the car.Costs approx £1500

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Prodrive Performance Pack

makes an STi 8 from 265bhp to 305bhp
or a WRX from 225bhp to 265bhp

From the subaru website
The Impreza WRX STi Performance Package has been designed to deliver class leading performance, boosting torque by up to 30% and extending its availability across a wider rev range than the standard engine.
The improved performance is produced through a carefully developed combination of matched exhaust and engine management modifications. This combination of enhancements boost peak power to 305ps@6,000rpm and deliver an impressive 405nm of torque at 4,000rpm, an improvement of 16% on the standard car. All WRX STi Prodrive Performance Packs come with a Certificate of Fitment

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What is PPP? (I have heard the term, just new to Impreza's and got to get used to the acronyms!)
Old 22 January 2006, 07:31 PM
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oh thanks mate! I remember readin that package somewhere before, im sure they dont a deal on it wher if you brought new, you got the pakage free. cool, thanks!
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It amazing what you can find if you look!!


http://www.prodrive.com/uploads/03MY%20STi%20PPP.pdf
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Cheers for the info Guys just have to find one now!
Old 23 January 2006, 12:31 AM
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Mine had ppp fitted from about 1500 miles by the original owner, with certificate to prove it. Note on that prodrive info you found the recommendation to fit 18" wheels, preferably prodrives of course
Good luck with you hunt andy, and give us a shout if you need a test drive
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My new WRX PPP MY05 didn't come with a cert (Has the tailpipe and Blue hose ), but I didn't pay a PPP Premium (PPPP!) for the car either.

A work mate of mine used to work for ProDrive and has offered to contact them for me to get a Cert (They were a bit busy last week, what with the Rally etc) so he is gonna call them this week.
Old 23 January 2006, 08:44 AM
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Main Dealers swap ppp`s from car to car aswell that might be the reason why the cert was lost.........it was regged to a different car
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Phoned ProDrive and Subaru today, the PPP kits was fitted when car was new (They had an offer of free PPP or Servicing at the time). I put a letter in the post requesting a new cert, they said it wasn't a problem.

So Andy S, maybe you could do the same, they seem to keep quite good records of fitment etc...
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Originally Posted by NorthDownsScooby
Some dealers, I believe, tell people that they can get a new certificate from prodrive just so they can shift the car, but getting the certificate seems to have proven tricky to several people on here.
Rich

I e mailed Mike Wood at Prodrive last week for a replacement certificate as i never got one with my car. Arrived this morning, no problems.
Old 19 February 2006, 09:35 AM
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Default 17s or 18s

Just bought a MY04 sti with the PPP fitted, previous owner had it done at 1000mls service and certificate to prove it.

the car has the standard 17s fitted and subaru recommend that you have 18s?
will this make any difference apart from the weight of my wallet
Old 19 February 2006, 05:49 PM
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I thought all PPP's had to be fitted to the car after they were registed, if so you cant buy a brand new Impreza with a PPP, you have to buy a brand new Impreza and then heve the PPP fitted.
Old 19 February 2006, 05:52 PM
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hay if u or i cant tell if its fitted how the hell can the insurance
Old 19 February 2006, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Attu
I thought all PPP's had to be fitted to the car after they were registed, if so you cant buy a brand new Impreza with a PPP, you have to buy a brand new Impreza and then heve the PPP fitted.
i agree, beleive done for emmisions reasons
Old 19 February 2006, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by wrx bill
hay if u or i cant tell if its fitted how the hell can the insurance
By (a) driving the car and seeing if the turbo wakes up before about 4000rpm and/or (b) by looking at the exhaust underneath the car and checking for the prodrive sports cat repalcement exhaust and/or (c) by asking prodrive.

Up to you if you want to take the risk.

In answer to the original post - see answers a-c above
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Did not end up with a UK car and it was modded lol

Got a MY04 JDM Sti with 339.4bhp and 343ib/ft tourque

Its got Dccd and lots of toys

Very happy

Cheers for the advice though guys

Originally Posted by Andy S.
Currently looking for a new car

Choices are

Mitsubushi Evo7/8 FQ300
Scoob STi 8 PPP

I want both to be standard spec

How do I tell if an STi has PPP fitted any was it when it was new or after (big differance in insurance quotes).

Does the log book have PPP on it? of do I have to look for bills?

Cheers for the help

I would try searching but google comes up with about 1000000 hits LOL
Old 20 February 2006, 12:59 AM
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ahem! Should have gone for a uk car with a powerstation remap

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