IS A CLASSIC WRX V1 MUCH QUICKER THAN EARLY UK.ADVICE NEEDED!!!
02 January 2006, 04:49 PM
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IS A CLASSIC WRX V1 MUCH QUICKER THAN EARLY UK.ADVICE NEEDED!!!
AS I SAID IN MY OTHER POST I WILL SOON BE LOOKING TO BUY A SCOOB FOR ABOUT FOUR GRAND.I DONT WANT TO BUY A MODDED ONE I LIKE STANDARD BUT I DO WANT TO GET THE MOST I CAN FOR MY MONEY.HOW MUCH DIFFERENCE IS THERE IN THE PERFORMANCE OF JAP AND UK AND TO ANY ONE WHOHAS EARLY IMPORT WHAT DO THEY GO LIKE.CHEERS
02 January 2006, 04:58 PM
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Hiya mate,
Early Uk's were aprox 208bhp
Jap 1993 to early 94 are approx 240bhp
The Uk spec has the horrible interior whuch changed in late 96's. I'd go for an import.
p.s. The imports also benefit from lighter body panels.
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Early Uk's were aprox 208bhp
Jap 1993 to early 94 are approx 240bhp
The Uk spec has the horrible interior whuch changed in late 96's. I'd go for an import.
p.s. The imports also benefit from lighter body panels.
regards
02 January 2006, 05:29 PM
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hello again, i have a 93 import and it goes like stink to 140mph, i also think early have closed deck engine blocks. all i have is backbox+middle powerflow exhaust, hks filter, apexi boost controller set on 15psi and it will see off vr6, clio 180, infact only thing thats past me was 2dr cosworth. even seen off evo 260 from leaving r/bout up to top speed(150) .
that just the boring straights beetween the corners
, i got car with adjustable suspension, strut braces frnt + bck , and i tell you i have driven a few fast cars but for cornering impreza wins hands down in my opinion.
its going to take something special to get me out of this 13yr old car and thats after owning it for a year.
just like i said take your time and find a good one, dont rush in.
i looked at 5 before buying this one, its easy to spot the donkeys or neglected examples. but they do exist.
that just the boring straights beetween the corners
, i got car with adjustable suspension, strut braces frnt + bck , and i tell you i have driven a few fast cars but for cornering impreza wins hands down in my opinion.its going to take something special to get me out of this 13yr old car and thats after owning it for a year.
just like i said take your time and find a good one, dont rush in.
i looked at 5 before buying this one, its easy to spot the donkeys or neglected examples. but they do exist.
02 January 2006, 06:27 PM
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I was faced with your dilema 3 years ago and went for a UK car. UK cars are undersealed, run on normal petrol, are cheaper to insure, have a proper rear fog light and a service history.......probably!!!
02 January 2006, 06:39 PM
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my93 import got undersealed as soon as it hit these shores - derestricted + converted to mph, fuel restricter, and fog light cut into rear bumper(perfectly).
most will have this done by importer along with timing belt and oil change. best thing about them also insurance. i am 28 yrs old with 6pts sp30s , 7 yrs no claims and its only a £600 policy from churchhill. i took third party only so no need for trackers or any other consumer products(rubbish).
most will have this done by importer along with timing belt and oil change. best thing about them also insurance. i am 28 yrs old with 6pts sp30s , 7 yrs no claims and its only a £600 policy from churchhill. i took third party only so no need for trackers or any other consumer products(rubbish).
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02 January 2006, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by rexabusa
my93 import got undersealed as soon as it hit these shores - derestricted + converted to mph, fuel restricter, and fog light cut into rear bumper(perfectly).
most will have this done by importer along with timing belt and oil change. best thing about them also insurance. i am 28 yrs old with 6pts sp30s , 7 yrs no claims and its only a £600 policy from churchhill. i took third party only so no need for trackers or any other consumer products(rubbish).
most will have this done by importer along with timing belt and oil change. best thing about them also insurance. i am 28 yrs old with 6pts sp30s , 7 yrs no claims and its only a £600 policy from churchhill. i took third party only so no need for trackers or any other consumer products(rubbish).
Some of the aftermarket fog lights stick out like a sore thumb.
Finally regarding insurance, it is my understanding that it generally costs more to insure an import.
There are generally more WRX's for sale so you will probably get a better deal..............which makes me wonder why...................
02 January 2006, 06:57 PM
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a few reputable places to try if looking for an import:
www.d-c-y.co.uk
www.japperformanceuk.co.uk
edited to say the above are in the yorkshire area, dunno where you are based??
www.d-c-y.co.uk
www.japperformanceuk.co.uk
edited to say the above are in the yorkshire area, dunno where you are based??
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02 January 2006, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by StephenPope
Not all jap imports are undersealed and therefore are more susceptible to corrsion.
Some of the aftermarket fog lights stick out like a sore thumb.
Finally regarding insurance, it is my understanding that it generally costs more to insure an import.
There are generally more WRX's for sale so you will probably get a better deal..............which makes me wonder why...................
Some of the aftermarket fog lights stick out like a sore thumb.
Finally regarding insurance, it is my understanding that it generally costs more to insure an import.
There are generally more WRX's for sale so you will probably get a better deal..............which makes me wonder why...................
Servicing, Insurance, Modding (only light modding tho
)....I originally wanted an import just purely because of more power and lighter, but the thought of not knowing which mad jap has thrashed it before me makes you think, especially if it comes with only a little service history!!!!
...and it is right in my opinion that you do see more imports up for grabs than you do UK models, whether its because there is alot alot more imports here than uk models, I dont know.
Ive got nothing against an import but would rather go for the UK spec in my opinion.You could easily power up either anyway so BHP aint a question!!!!
02 January 2006, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by rexabusa
hello again, i have a 93 import and it goes like stink to 140mph, i also think early have closed deck engine blocks. all i have is backbox+middle powerflow exhaust, hks filter, apexi boost controller set on 15psi and it will see off vr6, clio 180, infact only thing thats past me was 2dr cosworth. even seen off evo 260 from leaving r/bout up to top speed(150) .
that just the boring straights beetween the corners , i got car with adjustable suspension, strut braces frnt + bck , and i tell you i have driven a few fast cars but for cornering impreza wins hands down in my opinion.
its going to take something special to get me out of this 13yr old car and thats after owning it for a year.
just like i said take your time and find a good one, dont rush in.
i looked at 5 before buying this one, its easy to spot the donkeys or neglected examples. but they do exist.
that just the boring straights beetween the corners
, i got car with adjustable suspension, strut braces frnt + bck , and i tell you i have driven a few fast cars but for cornering impreza wins hands down in my opinion.its going to take something special to get me out of this 13yr old car and thats after owning it for a year.
just like i said take your time and find a good one, dont rush in.
i looked at 5 before buying this one, its easy to spot the donkeys or neglected examples. but they do exist.
Rob
02 January 2006, 07:20 PM
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I have a STI but never drove any WRX or UK car, is there much difference in speed and handling all I know STI has got forged pistons, close ratio gearbox and few bits more than others.
02 January 2006, 07:52 PM
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This may help
Here ya go,
http://www.sidc.co.uk/faq.htm>
All the answers to the questions you seek are here. If you want "fast" impreza and not bothered about economy maybe a type ra is what you seek. Do go to a proper importing company, they know their stuff. I would recommend wrx.co.uk, they have ads in the for sale section and they know what they are doing.
http://www.sidc.co.uk/faq.htm>
All the answers to the questions you seek are here. If you want "fast" impreza and not bothered about economy maybe a type ra is what you seek. Do go to a proper importing company, they know their stuff. I would recommend wrx.co.uk, they have ads in the for sale section and they know what they are doing.
02 January 2006, 08:05 PM
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Imports upto Sept 1994 are rated at 240PS not 240BHP. So that automatically drops them down to about 234BHP.
But that is on 100RON, as opposed to uk available 95 UL or 97 SUL. So you can knock a bit more off the 234BHP.
Both UK and WRX run 11.47psi boost, although the WRX runs it a little further up the revs (probably an advantage of 100RON).
Where it matters the UK runs more ignition advance, but runs quite a bit richer then the WRX. However the fuel/ignition map in a UK is much better/smoother then the WRX's.
So other then the shorter gearbox making the WRX feel quicker, there isn't really much in it. Insurance could make the 'BIG' difference.
But that is on 100RON, as opposed to uk available 95 UL or 97 SUL. So you can knock a bit more off the 234BHP.
Both UK and WRX run 11.47psi boost, although the WRX runs it a little further up the revs (probably an advantage of 100RON).
Where it matters the UK runs more ignition advance, but runs quite a bit richer then the WRX. However the fuel/ignition map in a UK is much better/smoother then the WRX's.
So other then the shorter gearbox making the WRX feel quicker, there isn't really much in it. Insurance could make the 'BIG' difference.
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02 January 2006, 08:06 PM
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buy a STI RA you'll get one for under 4 grand and you won't regret it, i recently paid under that for my MY95 STI RA, all the toys that UK cars havent got, mines 276bhp, water spray intercooler, dccd, close ratio box and a roof vent. UK cars come with 208bhp and none of the stuff i just mentioned, i've had a MY99 UK car and it doesn't compare to this STI RA.
03 January 2006, 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Scott.T
Imports upto Sept 1994 are rated at 240PS not 240BHP. So that automatically drops them down to about 234BHP.
But that is on 100RON, as opposed to uk available 95 UL or 97 SUL. So you can knock a bit more off the 234BHP.
Both UK and WRX run 11.47psi boost, although the WRX runs it a little further up the revs (probably an advantage of 100RON).
Where it matters the UK runs more ignition advance, but runs quite a bit richer then the WRX. However the fuel/ignition map in a UK is much better/smoother then the WRX's.
So other then the shorter gearbox making the WRX feel quicker, there isn't really much in it. Insurance could make the 'BIG' difference.
But that is on 100RON, as opposed to uk available 95 UL or 97 SUL. So you can knock a bit more off the 234BHP.
Both UK and WRX run 11.47psi boost, although the WRX runs it a little further up the revs (probably an advantage of 100RON).
Where it matters the UK runs more ignition advance, but runs quite a bit richer then the WRX. However the fuel/ignition map in a UK is much better/smoother then the WRX's.
So other then the shorter gearbox making the WRX feel quicker, there isn't really much in it. Insurance could make the 'BIG' difference.
the import runs a bigger turbo and boosts at 14psi, maybe uk one runs at 11.47psi. i tried mine at 11.47 and it was feeble.
if i knew how to put pics up i could show you mine at 4k
03 January 2006, 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by rexabusa
my93 import got undersealed as soon as it hit these shores - derestricted + converted to mph, fuel restricter, and fog light cut into rear bumper(perfectly).
most will have this done by importer along with timing belt and oil change. best thing about them also insurance. i am 28 yrs old with 6pts sp30s , 7 yrs no claims and its only a £600 policy from churchhill. i took third party only so no need for trackers or any other consumer products(rubbish).
most will have this done by importer along with timing belt and oil change. best thing about them also insurance. i am 28 yrs old with 6pts sp30s , 7 yrs no claims and its only a £600 policy from churchhill. i took third party only so no need for trackers or any other consumer products(rubbish).
how did you insure yours without the tracker? im with churchill and they insisted i had a tracker. im 30 3 points live in the sticks
03 January 2006, 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by watto52
how did you insure yours without the tracker? im with churchill and they insisted i had a tracker. im 30 3 points live in the sticks
03 January 2006, 01:40 AM
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i have a 95 wrx import it is standard runs 15psi and has 260 bhp they also have light doors and boot and bonnet uk specs are about 220 bhp u get air con with the import as well as fold in wing mirrors i would go with the import i am 26 and get insurance for 650 fully comp go to bell.co.uk
03 January 2006, 04:00 AM
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most imports that come here havent seen over 110mph , also reason there are so many imports here cause they still fetch 3-4k in uk, but in japan with heavy emmitions regs i am sure they dont hold there £££££.
so this country is bursting with them, which also has a knock on effect on uk impreza prices.
so this country is bursting with them, which also has a knock on effect on uk impreza prices.
03 January 2006, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by rexabusa
the import runs a bigger turbo and boosts at 14psi, maybe uk one runs at 11.47psi. i tried mine at 11.47 and it was feeble.
if i knew how to put pics up i could show you mine at 4k
if i knew how to put pics up i could show you mine at 4k
I think you will find that is not the case. Early UK's used the TD05. And 14psi on an import is not standard. Achieved with a decat and/or boost controller only
03 January 2006, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Roojai
I think you will find that is not the case. Early UK's used the TD05. And 14psi on an import is not standard. Achieved with a decat and/or boost controller only
Infact the Pre96 WRX Wagon, actually has a smaller turbo (TD04) then the UK wagon (TD05).
Don't believe everything you read in the 'IMPREZA' book !!!!!
P.S Rolling road day a few years back....
MY94 WRX with Power Engineering Phase remap, and full decat - 256BHP
My own MY94 UK with Prodrive 14psi remap, still with Cat in downpipe - 255BHP
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04 January 2006, 02:30 AM
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I bet the bloke wishes he hadnt asked now; there are so many contradictions in this thread its untrue (along with some absolute crap!)... Do you think he's any wiser?
-xXx-bigger turbo/no underseal/lightweight panels/100RON/CDBs/JDMs lighter-xXx-
-xXx-bigger turbo/no underseal/lightweight panels/100RON/CDBs/JDMs lighter-xXx-
04 January 2006, 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by GC8
I bet the bloke wishes he hadnt asked now; there are so many contradictions in this thread its untrue (along with some absolute crap!)... Do you think he's any wiser?
-xXx-bigger turbo/no underseal/lightweight panels/100RON/CDBs/JDMs lighter-xXx-
-xXx-bigger turbo/no underseal/lightweight panels/100RON/CDBs/JDMs lighter-xXx-
but................. 
so i have been reading crap all the time on this forum from twiddle dee , dum and ****?
04 January 2006, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by jockc79
my 95 wrx import is standard still has two cats and runs 18 psi no bother and has seen 145mph so dont know what ur on about
A 1994 WRX 11.47psi
A 1994 WRX RA 11.47psi
A 1993 - 1996 UK 11.47psi
A 1993/1994 STi RA 13.64psi
A 1995/1996 STi and STi RA 13.64psi
A 1994 - 1996 Prodrive UK 13.68psi
All WRX Wagons 10psi, dropping to 6.8psi
If you are running any more then the above, then you are not running 'Standard' and probably have some badly mapped Jap chip fitted.
For those of you that don't know. I've been mapping these things since late 2000 and all the above figures are quoted from ECU memory dumps that I have on my hard-drive.