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Old 30 September 2005, 11:48 PM
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Question Weekend Cars

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Just signed up as I'm looking into becoming a Scooby owner. Was wondering how many people just use their Scooby as a fun car and have another car for daily use and whether that happens to be a company car or not?

Trying to justify decisions
Old 30 September 2005, 11:52 PM
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i drive my own van during week. so car only for odd evening and weekends. Well thats when shes not off that road. As you will gather they aren't the most reliable car in the world!!
Old 30 September 2005, 11:58 PM
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i love to pop my denim jacket on and take the scooby for a wee spin on a weekend
Old 30 September 2005, 11:58 PM
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i use a nice cheap miami blue p205 1.6 gti for work & dossing about in during the week and my sti v4 for the weekend !.
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Originally Posted by LegacySTi
i drive my own van during week. so car only for odd evening and weekends. Well thats when shes not off that road. As you will gather they aren't the most reliable car in the world!!
I've had 3 sccobs over 100,000miles between them and never broken down... all from new mind...

Buy one and enjoy.... or buy a westfield / Caterham / bike / rocket / and smile for ever...
Old 01 October 2005, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by subaru swift
i use a nice cheap miami blue p205 1.6 gti for work & dossing about in during the week and my sti v4 for the weekend !.
same here..............fiesta si for the traffic jams and car park dings in the week and the sti8 for the weekends.

Is sometimes hard to justify the car though. Bought it in May and done less than 1500 miles. Only cleaned inside once it just never sees dirt!
Old 01 October 2005, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Zip Boing Arial Whoop
I've had 3 sccobs over 100,000miles between them and never broken down... all from new mind...

Buy one and enjoy.... or buy a westfield / Caterham / bike / rocket / and smile for ever...
Should say.. All company cars with tools in the boot and thrashed to hell!!!

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Old 01 October 2005, 12:13 AM
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I don't see the point of weekend only road cars.

Why keep a nice car and NOT use it just so you can sell it on for a huge loss in a few years?
And the roads at weekends are usually bunged up with numpties (at least in the day time) anyway.

I have a v5 STi RA for hooning and commuting. The wife has a TVR Griffith 500 for the same. We swap cars each week. Motoring heaven. (Well when the TVR will start and the RA hasn't shredded another set of tyres)

I'd have to do a lot of miles before it was sensible to have another more sensible car in the fleet... Yes, both the cars are used occasionally for business purposes. They exist to be driven. Not doing so would be a waste.
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Originally Posted by dnb
I don't see the point of weekend only road cars.

Why keep a nice car and NOT use it just so you can sell it on for a huge loss in a few years?
And the roads at weekends are usually bunged up with numpties (at least in the day time) anyway.
I take your point IF the car can cut it day to day.

For the weekend when I can be found on the back roads, drag strip and trackdays I have a STI5 Type R. I've modded the car to suit these conditions but on a Monday morning when I'm stuck in stop/start rush hour traffic it doesn't make as much sense.

I also wouldn't want to put my kids anywhere daddies "woosh" car as mega power, no abs, no airbags, DCCD handling and ear splitting exhaust don't make the ideal family car.
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I commute in the Griff - I now have a very strong left leg... And I get to appreciate the lovely v8 sound for that little bit longer. It makes going to work a pleasure. (and coming home too - it's that bit in the middle that's not so good )

Agreed about a modded type R/RA not being the best family car. I have no kids myself, but I have gone to the trouble of making sure there's a resonated centre section on the zorst. It keeps it (barely) civilised.

There's *an* airbag in the late classic RAs... But nothing for the passenger. I've never been totally convinced with the whole airbag & ABS thing anyway - mostly I find them to be devices to stop you thinking. Airbags are OK if you're average height and build, but if you're not, then the protection offered won't be as good as it could be and as for ABS - let's just say that my last Subaru inspired more confidence in its braking abilities when the ABS was unplugged.

Point taken about safety, but I think you are underestimating the importance of a having a decent well designed and strong chassis to bolt all these things to. With care you'll never need to use them. (That Chinese Landwind thing had airbags and probably ABS too... A lot of good they did!)

Getting off point now, so I'll shut up!
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Originally Posted by dnb
Point taken about safety, but I think you are underestimating the importance of a having a decent well designed and strong chassis to bolt all these things to.
That's one of my points in a nutshell. Any idea what the NCAP rating is for the classic scooby?

All I'm saying is that what I want from my weekend car and what I want from a weekday/family car couldn't be further apart. I'm in the fortunate positition where I can run two cars and don't want to say anything against folk that don't but if I couldn't then the Type R wouldn't be my car of choice.

If you only have one car then ultimately there's going to have to be a compromise.
Old 01 October 2005, 08:31 PM
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Or what the NCAP is in the blob/slitty eye?

I have only this step to conquer before I convince my missus that the Scoob is a family car after my Hyundai coupe!
Old 01 October 2005, 09:06 PM
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Daily steed for me. Personaly, I don't think there special enough to run just on weekends, unless you have a company car/van.
Old 01 October 2005, 09:45 PM
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I take my works van home so me scoob gets used as and when, which happens to be at every available opportunity
Old 01 October 2005, 10:23 PM
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Wife uses Focus I use an old Escort the Scoob only at weekends and an odd evening!!!!!!!!!!!!
Old 01 October 2005, 11:00 PM
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I think the new Scoobs are at least 4 NCAP stars. Not sure NCAP was following the same scheme when the classic shape Scoob was in production, so no star info I can find.

While NCAP testing is a very good idea, the idea of only having 5 levels is a bit silly. Is a 5 star car that much safer than a good 4 star? How do you know where a car came in its group? Are the star ratings comparible across different classes of car? (Eg a people carrier vs a supermini) Do the car designers make the car so that it merely passes the NCAP tests well without considering "real world" examples?

Sorry - just me being a cynical engineer again. There's far too much politics in science, engineering & product testing for me to take this sort of rating at face value. Suffuce to say, I believe (with good reason) the Scoob IS in fact a fairly safe car. The newer ones should be safer than the old ones, but that's progress for you.
Old 01 October 2005, 11:07 PM
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I use this for work (for flying past commuter traffic):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...tviewsmall.jpg
And this at the weekend for longer trips with the wife (her car):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v163/roojai/MX52.jpg
Old 01 October 2005, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dnb
Are the star ratings comparible across different classes of car?
Nope. So a 4-star saloon could be safer than a 5-star supermini.
Originally Posted by dnb
Do the car designers make the car so that it merely passes the NCAP tests well without considering "real world" examples?
Yep, because it's good for marketing and hence sales. Look at how much emphasis Renault put on their NCAP ratings. And remember the Merc A-Class and the elk test? It was apparently a worse car after they'd "fixed" it, but it passed the test and that's all that mattered.
Old 01 October 2005, 11:18 PM
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Carl - exactly my point. Didn't some VW golf variant go from 4 stars to 5 simply because it gaind a "put your seatbelt on" lamp? Or is that yet another pub story?

BTW, the Scoob's probably safer than our other "fun" cars anyway... Do you still have the Cerbie?
Old 01 October 2005, 11:48 PM
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I use my bugeye every day, the only problem is fuel consumption but I'm used to the expense now and accept it.
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I did use my bug eye everyday and just put up with the fuel bills, then i spent £200 on a runabout fiesta. £25 p/m to insure it.

Saves about £500 per month on fuel, which is £500 of mods/beer/clothes/whatever to spend.

And when i get in it at weekends/odd evening it feels SO much better to drive.

I can park wherever i like and not worry about the usual Chelsea tractors whacking their doors onto it, can relax a lot more now with parking in general.


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Originally Posted by dnb
BTW, the Scoob's probably safer than our other "fun" cars anyway... Do you still have the Cerbie?
Yes, although mine's safer than yours because it has a rollcage
Actually I'm selling up soon, just got to get a couple of little niggles done. Looking to be fun-car-less until next spring, then my current list of possibles is F355, 911 turbo or Cayman.
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I use an derv astra estate mon-thur (i'm an engineer), then get the sti out at the weekend!
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Originally Posted by Zip Boing Arial Whoop
I've had 3 sccobs over 100,000miles between them and never broken down... all from new mind...

Buy one and enjoy.... or buy a westfield / Caterham / bike / rocket / and smile for ever...
mine's a daily driver. wanted a griffith 500 for the weekends but didn't have the money so bought a mac 1 instead (obviously not the same as a westfield/caterham but much cheaper ) plus it wouldn't have fitted in my garage!

http://www.mac1motorsports.co.uk
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Originally Posted by philrsi
Hi.

Just signed up as I'm looking into becoming a Scooby owner. Was wondering how many people just use their Scooby as a fun car and have another car for daily use and whether that happens to be a company car or not?

Trying to justify decisions


I drive a crummy old diesel van for the school run/ shopping trips/ town centre jaunts - infact anywhere I have to leave it for longer than 5 mins on its own without security or being able to see it, Due to door dingers/thieves/and trolley fiends, and use the car for occasions I want a nice drive out.
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I use my scoobie all the time, I have a mini and a clio.. brother and girlfriends cars, but dont tend to drive them much..

I've recently found out that keeping below 2000rpm means the turbo doesnt kick in, this means I have a normal weekday car and a monster for weekends.. and I get to use my Scoobie all the time smile factor of ten
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Originally Posted by carl
Nope. So a 4-star saloon could be safer than a 5-star supermini.
Yep, because it's good for marketing and hence sales. Look at how much emphasis Renault put on their NCAP ratings. And remember the Merc A-Class and the elk test? It was apparently a worse car after they'd "fixed" it, but it passed the test and that's all that mattered.
I have little faith in these set tests - I'd rather roll over in a Freelander than a Fiesta, despite the 3 / 5 star rating.

The Focus did well, but the 3 door failed in the US, as they, rightly, test the side impact for the rear passengers - terrible for the average 3 door car.
Also, manufacturers send their top of the range cars, with airbags all tound, then larket all cars in the range as having that starr rating. One of them was told off for this recently.

At least manufacturers are taking it seriously, even if it's just for sales.
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I use my scoob every day and dont see why i should buy the car i like and then use another just because i cant afford it or scared of parking! If u buy one u take the rest of the bills that come with it. Look good everyday, not just weekends! Plus im rich so might buy another... for the weekends! lol. But honestly i can understand the second car thing for cash reasons but thats it really. most things happen to me during the week anyway so want to be in the scoob as its safer too.
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without being a nosey bast@rd, im wondering what u guys with subaru's as weekend cars are earning? surley the extra tax, MOT, insurance, Tyres...ctc... must amount to a fair bit. Im lucky i have a company van, coz otherwise my scoob would have to be for everyday use. Rough figure of earnings will do, no boasting though.
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I drive my company car during the week and have the STI for the weekend. In fact I usually use the company car at the weekend too!


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