Tek 3 from Andy F
11 September 2005, 01:23 AM
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Tek 3 from Andy F
Had my car remapped by Andy F, www.andyforrestperformance.co.uk the difference is unbelievable it’s like driving a different car. The power delivery when the turbo kicks in is so smooth and pulls much, much harder. One of the most noticeable things for me, is when i take it on the back roads that I know like the back of my hand, the torque it has when exiting tightish bends in 2nd and 3rd is mighty and before you know it your needing to change up a gear when you normally wouldn't because you going so bloody quick.
The only problem I have now, thanks to Andy, is that I am going to have to get big brakes...Bad One lol !!!
Nice one Andy, I reckon your becoming a legend !!!
2002 WRX, full H&S decat inc. up and down pipe.
The only problem I have now, thanks to Andy, is that I am going to have to get big brakes...Bad One lol !!!
Nice one Andy, I reckon your becoming a legend !!!
2002 WRX, full H&S decat inc. up and down pipe.
11 September 2005, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Hepy
Fantastic. Andy is doing mine on Friday, hopefully I'll see some improvements.
very please, a weapon she is to go
11 September 2005, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by flat4_ire
just had my v4 sti type r done by andy f yesterday here in ireland! very please, a weapon she is to go
very please, a weapon she is to go
11 September 2005, 11:04 AM
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what sort of power and torque do you think you are putting out now and
is that at the wheels?
I might be looking for this to be done in the new year,(yes i know its 4 month away,but i have 2 kids,a mortgage awife and a rottwieler to look after)
is that at the wheels?
I might be looking for this to be done in the new year,(yes i know its 4 month away,but i have 2 kids,a mortgage awife and a rottwieler to look after)
11 September 2005, 11:07 AM
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I'm looking at having mine done in a few months too, due to having 1 kid, a mortgage, flat rental and a rottwieler....eeerrrm, I mean ex-wife!
) heheheheh
) heheheheh
Originally Posted by justanotherperson
what sort of power and torque do you think you are putting out now and
is that at the wheels?
I might be looking for this to be done in the new year,(yes i know its 4 month away,but i have 2 kids,a mortgage awife and a rottwieler to look after)
is that at the wheels?
I might be looking for this to be done in the new year,(yes i know its 4 month away,but i have 2 kids,a mortgage awife and a rottwieler to look after)
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11 September 2005, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Trap2Terrorist
I'm looking at having mine done in a few months too, due to having 1 kid, a mortgage, flat rental and a rottwieler....eeerrrm, I mean ex-wife!) heheheheh
) heheheheh
11 September 2005, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by justanotherperson
what sort of power and torque do you think you are putting out now and is that at the wheels?
Without meaning to take anything away from Andy Forrest - who (along with Bob Rawle) is probably considered to be about the best mappers in the country - those bhp figures etc won't be much different if you get an equivalent map from several other reputable (good) mappers.
11 September 2005, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by hades
Typically for a full decat 02WRX with remap, you'll get around 280bhp and 260lbft torque at the flywheel, although that number varies depending on which rolling road you take it to (mine in a similar spec got 284bhp/272lbft at Power Engineering once). The bigger difference is the way the power comes in much earlier and lasts much longer - figures are all well and good, it's how the car drives that matters, IMHO.
Without meaning to take anything away from Andy Forrest - who (along with Bob Rawle) is probably considered to be about the best mappers in the country - those bhp figures etc won't be much different if you get an equivalent map from several other reputable (good) mappers.
Without meaning to take anything away from Andy Forrest - who (along with Bob Rawle) is probably considered to be about the best mappers in the country - those bhp figures etc won't be much different if you get an equivalent map from several other reputable (good) mappers.
i have been quoted about £500-£600 for very similar with another WELL KNOWN scooby tuner,
so i wanted to compare prices along with what im getting and the price also
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11 September 2005, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by remfanuk
how much does Andy charge for what you had done Woody?
GET IT DONE !!
11 September 2005, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by justanotherperson
what sort of power and torque do you think you are putting out now and
is that at the wheels?
I might be looking for this to be done in the new year,(yes i know its 4 month away,but i have 2 kids,a mortgage awife and a rottwieler to look after)
is that at the wheels?
I might be looking for this to be done in the new year,(yes i know its 4 month away,but i have 2 kids,a mortgage awife and a rottwieler to look after)
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11 September 2005, 12:43 PM
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Bingo - music to my ears......"i want performance without the engine going bang".
Making the decision to mod my pride and joy is a little worrying (for me anyway) due to some of the horror stories out there. It's something I've always wanted to do but have taken my time deciding whether I should or not.
It sounds like as long as you go with a reputable mapper, like Andy F, you should be in safe hands.
Making the decision to mod my pride and joy is a little worrying (for me anyway) due to some of the horror stories out there. It's something I've always wanted to do but have taken my time deciding whether I should or not.
It sounds like as long as you go with a reputable mapper, like Andy F, you should be in safe hands.
Originally Posted by W00DY
Andy rekoned that it would be sitting at around 280bhp and it feels every bit of it, and even feels a bit more than that. What is great is that youv'e got a wicked motor that goes like stink and is still within a safe limit, for me thats a big plus as i want performance without the engine going bang.
11 September 2005, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Trap2Terrorist
Bingo - music to my ears......"i want performance without the engine going bang".
Making the decision to mod my pride and joy is a little worrying (for me anyway) due to some of the horror stories out there. It's something I've always wanted to do but have taken my time deciding whether I should or not.
It sounds like as long as you go with a reputable mapper, like Andy F, you should be in safe hands.
Making the decision to mod my pride and joy is a little worrying (for me anyway) due to some of the horror stories out there. It's something I've always wanted to do but have taken my time deciding whether I should or not.
It sounds like as long as you go with a reputable mapper, like Andy F, you should be in safe hands.
11 September 2005, 01:02 PM
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I'm probably going to get mine done a Powerstation in Tewkesbury, they get good write ups from people on here.....
Originally Posted by W00DY
I would not worry about getting it mapped by reputable mappers like Andy F, as when he was mapping my motor he said that it would a custom map to my mods to give me best performance gain BUT keeping within the saftey margins of the engine.
11 September 2005, 01:46 PM
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I'm no expert but have seen a few posts on here about TSL 333. Have a look on http://www.tsl-motorsport.co.uk/news...0002&detail=45, their upgrade gives you 333bhp/333lb/ft.
It's designed to build on your existing PPP stuff, correct me if I'm wrong anyone?
It's designed to build on your existing PPP stuff, correct me if I'm wrong anyone?
Originally Posted by brihoppy
is it worth getting a remap on a prodrived car...?
11 September 2005, 06:55 PM
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Woody had tek2 exchange ecu from falkland wasn't working .Went to AWD in perth for Andy f to tek3 my car what a difference it makes to car i get 20psi in 1 2 3 4 5 up to 5000rev my boost gauge is 2 psi out it makes this boost when exhaust tempreture is hotter ie 800deg a bit lower today with the heat around the carnoustie area this an my2000 classic hs turbo back exhaust and jr panel still the tdo4
11 September 2005, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Trap2Terrorist
I'm no expert but have seen a few posts on here about TSL 333. Have a look on http://www.tsl-motorsport.co.uk/news...0002&detail=45, their upgrade gives you 333bhp/333lb/ft.
It's designed to build on your existing PPP stuff, correct me if I'm wrong anyone?
It's designed to build on your existing PPP stuff, correct me if I'm wrong anyone?
Secondly, the PPP for the STi is basically an exhaust (with sports cat) and remap - plus fuel pump IIRC. The TSL 333 kit replaces the exhaust, the fuel pump and the re-map, plus adds an air filter upgrade. i.e. doesn't build on the existing PPP stuff, it replaces the same things - and runs things a little harder to get more power/torque.
12 September 2005, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by hades
You're wrong. For starters, the post was talking about a WRX, and the TSL 333 kit is for the STi. There is no way that the WRX turbo is capable of 333bhp and 333lbft.
Andy F himself has already got 310+ out of a WRX in scoobymag and thats before the mods have got too extensive.It would be more expensive though, I'm guessing that you'd be looking at the usual exhaust, filter, fuel pump, remap scenario AND a bigger turbo, injectors etc.... Then you have to consider the longevity of the transmssion.....
I guess you get to a point where you have to ask yourself whether it would just be better to trade up to a higher spec std car!
Not going to stop me getting mine decatted and re-mapped though, although I think as it's a light classic, 260ish bhp/ft lbs torque would be more than adequate......
But everyone seems to say that.....right before the go for even more mods, don't they?
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12 September 2005, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
I think there are some on here that might disagree with you on that point! Andy F himself has already got 310+ out of a WRX in scoobymag and thats before the mods have got too extensive.
It would be more expensive though, I'm guessing that you'd be looking at the usual exhaust, filter, fuel pump, remap scenario AND a bigger turbo, injectors etc.... Then you have to consider the longevity of the transmssion.....
I guess you get to a point where you have to ask yourself whether it would just be better to trade up to a higher spec std car!
Not going to stop me getting mine decatted and re-mapped though, although I think as it's a light classic, 260ish bhp/ft lbs torque would be more than adequate......
But everyone seems to say that.....right before the go for even more mods, don't they?
NS04
Andy F himself has already got 310+ out of a WRX in scoobymag and thats before the mods have got too extensive.It would be more expensive though, I'm guessing that you'd be looking at the usual exhaust, filter, fuel pump, remap scenario AND a bigger turbo, injectors etc.... Then you have to consider the longevity of the transmssion.....
I guess you get to a point where you have to ask yourself whether it would just be better to trade up to a higher spec std car!
Not going to stop me getting mine decatted and re-mapped though, although I think as it's a light classic, 260ish bhp/ft lbs torque would be more than adequate......
But everyone seems to say that.....right before the go for even more mods, don't they?
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12 September 2005, 11:02 AM
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Iv had two maps now from Andy F,and the outcome was stunning .Now got my 2000 classic to 296bhp
.Had the seconed map done as i changed my turbo from a td04 to a vf24 and changed the intercooler to a sti6 Have more mods planed so will see you again soon Andy
.Now got my 2000 classic to 296bhp .Had the seconed map done as i changed my turbo from a td04 to a vf24 and changed the intercooler to a sti6 Have more mods planed so will see you again soon Andy
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I have to agree with most posts on here, the 268 BHP and 266 ib/ft i have, (2 RR tests), are ok, but the difference in the drive is awesome. The power delivery and way it pulls like f00k just make me smile all the time. The sad thing is, i want more, cant afford more, and etc, etc, LOL.
A TEK 3 really does change the car. Smooth power aint the word. My 03WRX used to be wnak in 3rd gear up the revs. Now it is nice. It is just 5th that is wnak!
A TEK 3 really does change the car. Smooth power aint the word. My 03WRX used to be wnak in 3rd gear up the revs. Now it is nice. It is just 5th that is wnak!
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
I think there are some on here that might disagree with you on that point! Andy F himself has already got 310+ out of a WRX in scoobymag and thats before the mods have got too extensive.
It would be more expensive though, I'm guessing that you'd be looking at the usual exhaust, filter, fuel pump, remap scenario AND a bigger turbo, injectors etc....
NS04
Andy F himself has already got 310+ out of a WRX in scoobymag and thats before the mods have got too extensive.It would be more expensive though, I'm guessing that you'd be looking at the usual exhaust, filter, fuel pump, remap scenario AND a bigger turbo, injectors etc....
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Hi Guys i have the TSl 333 kit on my Sti and yes it pulls like f00k all the time,
so nice to drive, i think the 6 speed STi gear box makes a lot of difference too as the gears are a little shorter so you dont have to change down as much round country roads as the boost comes in a lot faster than it would in the longer geared 5 speed WRX.
Was blasing around some nice B roads i know the other day and 4th and 5th gears is all you need to keep it on the button, sometimes 3rd for the tight corners and boom its away up the gears again..
scoobys are fab, HA!
Sy
so nice to drive, i think the 6 speed STi gear box makes a lot of difference too as the gears are a little shorter so you dont have to change down as much round country roads as the boost comes in a lot faster than it would in the longer geared 5 speed WRX.
Was blasing around some nice B roads i know the other day and 4th and 5th gears is all you need to keep it on the button, sometimes 3rd for the tight corners and boom its away up the gears again..
scoobys are fab, HA!
Sy
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Originally Posted by hades
Hence my comment was you won't get 333/333 out of a WRX turbo - i.e a standard TD04. To my knowledge, no-one has ever got 333/333 from a hybrid TD04 (although that may be possible), let alone a standard one. The WRX engine as a whole is capable of much more - I believe Niinybobs is in the 400bhp region now, for example - but not with the standard turbo
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Ive just bought me a ported TD05 turbo and a FMIC along with a set of phase 2 injectors for my 97 uk turbo. Im gonna take it to Andy F for an Apexi and he reckons it will be pushing around 330 bhp. I cant fooking wait!
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Originally Posted by hades
Hence my comment was you won't get 333/333 out of a WRX turbo - i.e a standard TD04. To my knowledge, no-one has ever got 333/333 from a hybrid TD04 (although that may be possible), let alone a standard one. The WRX engine as a whole is capable of much more - I believe Niinybobs is in the 400bhp region now, for example - but not with the standard turbo
The 01 onwards WRX is indeed well capable of producing 'like for like' figures with the Sti. Ninnybobs and midlife's cars are 370 and 400 bhp both running on TD05-18G turbos with fmic/ind/exh/inj/tek3
Andy