tyron.c

Ive been browsing scoobynet for quite a while now as im looking to purchase a new car (not brand new!) in little over a months time.
I will be buying either an impreza or an evo, and to be honest i think at this point in time im gonna go for an evo.
Ive been reading tonight a thread with the pros and cons of both cars on an evo forum, obviously the views are biased by evo owners (lot of them x-subaru owners it seems!).
I thought it would be nice to hear things from a subaru point of view from you guys. Do you think the subaru is a better car? or would you all trade in for an evo?
Thanks guys.......

Danny B

In all honestly can you really expect Impreza drivers to admit that the Evo is a better car on a Subaru website?

I think not

GEORDIE STI

danny b is right mate. you can not really ask scooby owners to say that the evo is better, or for evo owners to say that the scoooby is better,they will both back up their own choice of car,be it a scoob or a evo.

At the end of the day,its only you that can make that choice,have a look on performance, fuel consumption,comfortable,etc and see which one suits you most.

hope that helps abit ?



dave

STI_V2

It's quite simple mate......if you want to learn how to drive fast, be in control of your car, and generally put your driving skills to a test you buy a Scooby.
On the other hand if you want electronics as a safety backup you buy an EVO.

The way I see it is that the EVO with the clever electronics provides this extra confidence....where the Scooby might not forgive you.

Your choice really.

TurboMav

As above really, expect biased comments on both forums. Take them both for a test drive and then decide.

mgcvk

Definitely true that a scoob is rougher round the edges but a good blank canvas to modify to suit yourself. Evo active yaw (however you spell it) probably will look after you better bought off the peg. Servicing every 10,000 miles on new Subarus..every 3,500 or 4,500 with Evos?

ThrustSSC

And fill-up every 300 miles with a Scooby, 200 with an Evo... (the Evo has a fuel tank smaller than an Essex girl's bladder).

phelpsa

If you can afford to buy and then run an evo then go for it. Alot of people on here would go for an Evo if it hadn't been for the extremely high running costs (more servicing, less economical etc.). Also, there is alot more to go wrong in an Evo.

Adam

tyron.c

No i dont......I want opinions from subaru owners why they think they are the better option!
On the evo forum i mentioned they named quite a few negatives about the scooby, i had hoped the subaru owners would name a few of the evo problems!

tyron.c

Thats the sort of thing im after....pros and cons!

AndyC_772

iTrader: (2)

Yet another bunch of comments from people who haven't driven both cars, I see

Last year I was in the fortunate position of being able to afford to replace my old scooby, so I test drove an Evo FQ-300 and an STI Type UK with PPP. Similar price and similar power in both cases, but they couldn't be more different.

The Evo experience was dominated by the steering, which is hyper-direct in a way that I've only ever before experienced in lightweight sports cars like the Lotus Elise or my old Westfield. Whilst it's truly remarkable that a full-sized 4 door saloon can be made to change direction so quickly, after a couple of minutes I found it very tiring. And, after another couple of minutes, I was bored - I didn't feel involved, rather like playing a video game.

Couple the almost toy-like handling with an engine that's both immensely strong but totally without character, and you have a recipe for losing your licence well before you actually reach a pace that feels fun. I walked away hugely impressed by the car's abilities, and totally uninspired.

So, the next week I tried the STI. Although few would argue that the Evo has it beaten in terms of outright ability, I found it a far more involving drive. It's hard to describe, but the car felt much more cohesive, more complete, less reliant on travelling at silly speeds to make the driver feel part of the experience. It was also quieter, more comfortable, and the interior is (IMHO) a much nicer place to be.

Within minutes there was no question over which car I wanted. Whilst the Evo would be my car of choice if I ever desperately needed to get somewhere really, really quickly, the scooby would be much easier to live with and much more rewarding 90% of the time. I actually ended up buying a JDM-spec car which, thanks mainly to the improved Japanese-spec engine, was even better.

tyron.c

Such as?

Shimy Type R

In my opinion, after having over 13 scoobys and now having an evo 6, I personaly cant say which one's better!

They've both got their good points and bad points.

I dont find the evo petrol cost any worse than any scoob ive ever had, infact ive only ever had one classic uk scooby that was considerably better on petrol.

As for handling, they both handle great, I find the evo is more direct and responsive than a scoob and when the **** end gets out the AYC kicks in and stops it from fish tailing.

The scooby feels faster than an evo and more agresive, something some people prefer, and also you dont get the luvley growl in an evo.

As a final note the evo turns alot more heads, must be down to the agresive looks and their a bit more rare.

As a note, I didnt like the evo when I first drove it cause I was use to the scooby, but now its got to be one of the best all round cars I've had.

I hope this helps mate.

Shimy

THOMO

scoobys look cool

evo 6 look cool

scooby sounds 10 times better

evo cheaper to modify 360 on standard internals

p1 , type r v6 , 22b the daddys of scoobs and evos

evo a bit more reliable .

had both preffere my evo only because of blown engine on my scoob and other minor problems.

LETS BE HONEST THEY BOTH LOOK WAY ABOVE ANY NORMAL CAR.

tyron.c

thanks for the input so far, much appreciated!

stevebt

iTrader: (8)

just before i bought my impreza there was a evo i had my eye on but i changed my mind at the last minute and im pleased i did as the person who bought the evo i was looking at had it stolen within 2 weeks i asked a local impound police officer if she ever got any impreza's in and she said no but they get loads of evo's thats what made my mind up. everyone knows evo's are quick but most underestimate the impreza

wanted

I've had both,

Scoob sounds better
Evo is cheaper to modify

Evo is better on fuel and once a scoob is moderatly modified the sevicing schedule is about the same.

Mitsubishi don't kick you in the ***** quite as hard for parts as a subaru dealer.

Both drive completely different.

BuRR

I've got both - an Evo 4, and a 300bhp 99 wagon.

Both have their own characters, but the Evo edges it for me. Personal preference more than anything - there's nothing that sounds like the Scoob, but the Evo is wonderful to drive.

wwp8

this question should go to people who have owned both ,
and not people who test drive.
sometimes these people can tell you what they're like after a few months
what it costs to live with,
sometimes if it feels quicker doesn't have to be IS faster.

T5NYW

iTrader: (4)

The EVO is better in loads of ways and not as good in some (costs) :; it's more about personal preferences

Couldn't agree more if i wanted the fastest car around a track with the same power levels then I'd have bought an EVO.

it never told me to go slower around a corner and it always made it but one day it wasn't going to and at a very high speed

Tony

compshack

You have to ask yourself why are you buying the car. For it's comfort, fuel economy, day to day drive, or are you buying it to be the fastest car you can afford?

If you want easy to live with, normal car driving "feel" with performance buy the Subaru. If you want ***** out power with pin sharp handling and you'll only see one in every 10 scoob's then pick the Evo.

I have owned both the Sti and Evo 8's MR 340.

There both easy to live with when you get used to them. Like I say you don't buy a car like either of these to be a safe option.
You really need to drive both and make you're own mind up it's really that personal.

automodellistagt

The grass is allways greener

i want an evo

GRIFF007

i would say you have a very unbias view here from a no. of experienced pilots - pleasant surprise.

I have only driven the 6 T Mak - and found the ride ridiculous and engine as boring as watching paint dry - I now have 03 STi PPP and think it is phenomenol - however in extremis, surprisingly the suspension might even be a little soft - never thought I would be saying that...

The engine note to me is vital and when driven in ernest and all is well and truly hot it feels like an evey day WRC car - just wish it had DSG and 60 lb ft more torque - to compensate for losses in hot weather - in temps below 12 c it is ballistic - a true every day car (14 mpg av though + must use Optimax)

compshack

That's what allways hit me with owning a Sti (type uk anyway) you're allways wanting more it isn't quite there, just a bit more.

With the MR340 it's always there in spades more than you want, most of the time.

The engine note on a mr340 with decat is really World Rally here we come

GRIFF007

hmm - must say i would like to try a modern FQ - actually did try a MK6 with supposedly best part of 400 bhp - fried the clutch pulling off, even in a downpour with salesman onboard!

Both cars nead 360 lb ft once you have got a little used to their foibles

Shimy Type R

I have to agree with wanted on this one.

You can get an evo up to 360 Bhp on standered internals and it will still be reliable. To get a STi up to that you'll have to add parts on that the evo allready has like, front mount intercooler, oil cooler, big injectors, and turbo.

As for main dealers, Subaru wont even talk to you if you make the mistake of telling them your cars an import. Mitsubishi will give you warrenty even on an import Evo

wwp8

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I have owned both the Sti and Evo 8's MR 340.

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this is what i'm puzzled with, why did you go for the 340, compared to the 320, when performance is hardly noticable and the price is around £5k different?

compshack

Leather, Sat Nav (saying that I hardly use it), good deal from the dealer. hard to beleve but a ex demo 340 with 1k on the clock was near enough the same as a pre reg 320. Oh and it says 340 on the back LOL

I like the car to keep it's warranty so I knew I wouldn't be modding it. If you are going to mod then yes get the 320.

Both with a de-cat fitted the 340 is faster.

MLR did a test with the MR400 and a de-catted MR340.

In all but one test the 340 was faster!

RRH

From considerable experience of both I will say what I always say on these evo v impreza threads;

If you want to drive round the block like your **** is on fire then buy an evo, and save up a few grand as you'll be needing dental work. Very sharp responses, need to be on top of it if you want to travel quickly. Excellent drivers car straight out of the box.

If however you need to go more than about five miles buy a scoob. More compliant ride, less nervous, ultimately slightly less rewarding IMHO.

In essence, buy the evo if you don't care about comfort of your passengers, buy the scoob if you do care about the comfort of your passengers

The above are generalisations, and are my observations, so don't waste your time flaming me

AndyC_772

iTrader: (2)

That's an urban myth which may once have been true, but no longer - at least, not in the case of all dealers. My local Subaru dealership is happy to work on imports, at least up to the limit of the capabilities of their UK-spec diagnostic equipment. They also stock or can supply import-only parts.

Realistically though, you're likely to want to entrust an imported Scooby to independent specialists instead, many of whom tend to get consistently better write-ups from satisfied customers than franchised dealers do anyway.