G_Sleigh_STi

It doesnt matter what you are sat next to, but if they are up for alittle fun i have realized even if they are in a 1.4 saxo, they ALWAYS pull away first.

Then by the time you hit the next set of lights they are smug thinking they are faster, truth is out turbos havnt spun up yet!

Its so annoying, there is no way to launch a impreza without damaging the car! That is one huge downfall in my view.

I was haivng a race against a VW GOLF R32. Off the lights he kicked my ***, then i destroyed him when i caught up. But its not the point.

Is there no way of launching of the lights well without holding the clutch at 4k+ and damaging the clutch?

Paulo P

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It's probably down to the way you drive I got caught out driving a turbo car again when I got my scoob There is a knack of getting off of the line nicely though

G_Sleigh_STi

But is there without smoking the clutch? to pull off right you gotta make sure the turbo is spinning and ready to power the engine. To do that you have to have the revs high high. By doing that you aint got much clutch life.

N/A cars have so much more power low end its annoying really.

M444GY

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trial and error i can get a good launch now , before i was ****

Jap2Scrap

You're right. When in my Saxo I always encourage scoobies to go on amber, then wait til green to give them a fair crack.

Nice of me eh?

Lum

Get a twin turbo Legacy instead. I have boost from 2K RPM upwards and have no problems with Saxos, Civic Type Rs or Golfs :P

Monkeh

i find it best to slowly feed in the clutch at 4500 rpm. as your feeding up the clutch you push down on the loud pedal !!

try getting a good getaway in a Alfa 146 with a 1.7 boxer engine, then you see just how good the scoob is.. that thing was a death trap on roundabouts

Dark Blue Mark

If you launch a scoob properly, you get seriously pinned in the seat

Try asking one of the experts like Andy F / Pavlo etc etc...

MB

G_Sleigh_STi

Yea my mate has one and i do like driving it i must admit.

ALong with everyone elses comments, i think my saxo VTR and my pug 406 estate are faster of the lights...

I dont wannt look like a dick holding my clutch at 4.5k RPM to be honest. Thats gonna be loud and obiveous! lol

pslewis

Let them go!!!

Smile to yourself, knowing YOU are the grown up!!

Pete

Paulo P

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There is but it takes practice. You need to build the boost up 'til it's there and gently ease the clutch out whilst applying more power gently. This roughly means 2,500 rpm then a gentle slip of the clutch and once the clutch is all of the way out nail it Trial and error are the best way to find out. For the best get aways I used to find 4,000 rpm then dump it, anymore and you'd slip the clutch (nasty!!) and any less and it'd bog down (like I did on the way home from buying my scoob the other day )

G_Sleigh_STi

damn i need to go and find a private empty road and just practice all day long then to make sure i getting the most from the car!

Gear Head

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Wow, you said something that I actually agree with!
Maybe we all have to post 10000 times to be as grown up as pslewis!

AlanPPP

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A leon cupra got the better of me the other day..well he took off and i just waited then planted it, before i had time to spool up in second i had to let him through as it was a bottleneck.

He must have thought he had won me or somthing.Wait till i see him again..god damn thing comes in at 2K like my old a3 turbo!

scoobiecookie

cant say ive had any trouble off the lights i find holding the revs under 3k then slowly release the clutch and push the power on gives more then ample acceleration to see anything ive played against off the line holding the revs too high only causes the smell of clutch and depending how quick u r with lifting the clutch a clonk and or drastic clutch spin but then again i had years of practice in 2wd cossies running high boost so that also does help teach how to launch

THOMO

theres a few factors involved .i have had 2 scoobs .the second one was blinding off the lights. i can only put it down to the exhaust and air filter, that was the only difference between the two cars.also on my first scoob i changed the hks filter and tried a pipercross the spool up was much quicker and seemed much better from standing start.

StickyMicky

if i nail mine from the lights it spins 4 wheels

Dark Blue Mark

Yes its all very well saying the car wont launch... 9 out of 10 times its people on here that cant drive them

I dont do it much at all, as I go for the PS Lewis theory, but the best discreet way is as Paul says and slip the clutch. Doesn't take much skill, but the clutch wont like it.

You can't have it all ways - a very small turbo may spool well but would run out of puff, and a big un will be the opposite. There has to be a compromise.

MB

GC8

Another 'I cant drive' thread ffs

Lum

There are many legitimate reasons for wanting to nail someone at the lights, such as when there are two lanes, straight ahead and right, and you know the *** to your right is going to go straight ahead as well.

Some tricks that don't require you to be able to drive your car well...

1) Stop 1 car length away from the stop line, floor it at amber and cross the line at green doing 20

2) Dont sit there holding 4.5K RPM, get to 4.5K RPM during the amber phase then dump the clutch

#1 also works if you're driving a ****box and will really **** off Impreza owners

I'll just stick to the car that's designed for low end grunt and rarely gets hassle from Civics and Saxos :P

iamevilhomer

Well then what do you recommend to all the newbies then???

Dark Blue Mark

Go to the driving dynamics area and study it, but id be worried if you cant work that sort of thing out naturally!

MB

NotoriousREV

Depending on what clutch you have: 5000rpm, sidestep clutch et voila instant and violent acceleration that will be enough to see off anything mundane. Not terribly mechanically sympathetic but amazingly effective.

highlander68k

Definitely.

I've never had the problem myself. However, I do like to play and give the other car a bit of a head start, just to see how quickly I can pass them when I do launch

New_scooby_04

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LOL yes, but step two in the above invoves participating in the clutch group buy running at the moment!! Autocar ran one of there 0-60-0 challenges a couple of years ago, and found that using the brutal wind up to full revs and dump clutch technique produced staggering results with an Evo and a Scooby: just over a second to 30mph. Even an F1 car present couldn't use it's massive power advantage to overtake the humble japanese saloons till about 28mph. However, a few of these starts will destroy your clutch.

I find the best way is to either let the clutch out fully at low revs and then floor it which results in nothing followed by neck snapping acceleration... it's a real laugh and quote shocking for any passengers or to balance the throttle against the clutch at about 3.5k, let the clutch out briskly and floor it as soon as the clutch is fully let out. Doesn't feel as dramatic, but is very effective and will leave pretty much anything behind. It takes a bit of practice, but comes as second nature after a while.

NS04

Big-G

Aaaaahhhh, the joys of owning a Wagon with auto transmission with a smaller turbo that gives full boost and torque lower down the rev range.

Stick it in first, foot on brake reach 2000 rpm, foot off brake....launch then look in your mirror and smile!!!

Don't need to use this technique much as I usually give the 'competition' a head start and then fly by

Big-G

Andy Tang

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Imagine the look on peoples faces when the same happens but with a Forester!

G_Sleigh_STi

Right o.k got some good pointers there. I am booking into to a rally day to learn to control the car and i gonna go santa pod and practice starts to learn how to drive her well.

With regards to: GC8 comment. Go screw ya self. I only had the car 4 weeks and 21 so its the most powerful car i have owned to date. Suprisingly its going to take some time to learn all the tips, driving skills and control of the car.

Thanks all. Just practice makes perfect huh

Paulo P

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Santa pod is a good learning ground for starting techniques because every fraction really counts there I learnt to launch my car properly at a sprint day after having it for years Only a couple of weeks ago I was up there in my friends mark 2 escort rs2000 and that's really tricky to get off of the line with no LSD, 13" wheels and 160+ bhp through 10 year old tyres

RB5SCOTT

Just put your foot to the floor and side step the clutch! I have no problem with launching. Its when you go into it half hearted that you get the bogging problem. All or nothing mate