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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 06:44 PM
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Thinking about getting the scoob lowered
Which is the best option? & why
eiback lowering springs or prodrive lowering springs?

How low can you go etc...

Some info would be good.

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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 06:56 PM
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Lowering springs ruin the car, So dont bother unless you go for full suspension.
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ProdriveSTI
eiback lowering springs or prodrive lowering springs?
I think Eibach make the springs for prodrive anyway mate and there is very little difference between the two.
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Livewire
Lowering springs ruin the car, So dont bother unless you go for full suspension.

So even the prodrive springs are no good?...
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 10:09 AM
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Mark

We do use Eibach to manufacture our springs for us but they are very different in some cases to what they sell under their own brand. Our rates are decided upon after extensive testing in the UK (and other countries as well), their's aren't.

Livewire is quite correct, lowering springs ruin the car........if they aren't done properly. If the primary aim of a spring manufacturer is to sell a spring kit for every model that lowers it by a nominal 30mm, then they are not going to work properly as it's not that easy. Just saying that the springs are 30mm lower so we need to up the rates by 25% to suit is a recipe for a car that has an awful ride and understeers like a pig. Springs that are developed on the specific car to work with the other std parts can be made to work very nicely.

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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 10:16 AM
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Mark

We do use Eibach to manufacture our springs for us but they are very different in some cases to what they sell under their own brand. Our rates are decided upon after extensive testing in the UK (and other countries as well), their's aren't.

Livewire is quite correct, lowering springs ruin the car........if they aren't done properly. If the primary aim of a spring manufacturer is to sell a spring kit for every model that lowers it by a nominal 30mm, then they are not going to work properly as it's not that easy. Just saying that the springs are 30mm lower so we need to up the rates by 25% to suit is a recipe for a car that has an awful ride and understeers like a pig. Springs that are developed on the specific car to work with the other std parts can be made to work very nicely.

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Thanks Mike for your input.

My car is standard at this moment in time, I am thinking about the 18" Pff7 wheels & the lowering kit .

I take it then it will be ok to buy the springs for the car? I dont want to ruin the cars handling etc.
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeWood
Mark

We do use Eibach to manufacture our springs for us but they are very different in some cases to what they sell under their own brand. Our rates are decided upon after extensive testing in the UK (and other countries as well), their's aren't.

Livewire is quite correct, lowering springs ruin the car........if they aren't done properly. If the primary aim of a spring manufacturer is to sell a spring kit for every model that lowers it by a nominal 30mm, then they are not going to work properly as it's not that easy. Just saying that the springs are 30mm lower so we need to up the rates by 25% to suit is a recipe for a car that has an awful ride and understeers like a pig. Springs that are developed on the specific car to work with the other std parts can be made to work very nicely.

Mike

I thought about getting eibach springs for my Evo, mainly for looks as the car rides too high. I asked many garages and tuners about lowering springs with differing opinions, more bad than good so I left the suspension standard.

but Mike may be right in what he has explained.
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 10:45 AM
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Do a search on this topic. You'll find loads of threads related to it that are more helpfull than some of the comments you've had so far.

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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 10:45 AM
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Handling and ride is the priority when we develop a spring kit rather than how much we can lower it. Some kits have replacement bumpstops as well if the std part isn't giving the performance we want.

Mike
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