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Old 24 November 2004, 08:02 PM
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Im sure a lot of you will know me as a fanatical scooby man, well here is the bad news.
10 weeks ago my P1 went bang while driving up the A34 during rush hour traffic.The car was recovered direct back to my dealer by subaru assist.
The engine was removed and inspected by one of there techs who found all the bearings had failed .
So you all think oil failure no problem ,Wrong
Subaru warrantys services get independant engineer to inspect engine.his report says he found no fault with oil pump,so therefore they have refused to pay the claim.
The managing director of Sparshatts my dealer has backed my claim fully and even offered to pay50%of the claims labour costs, he has now refused to sell subaru warrantys and as a result is in a big dispute with subaru uk.
So be warned if you think you have a bullit proof warranty think again.
If you want to know how you would stand if you was left with a £5000+ bill please contact subaru uk ltd

or www.subaru.co uk
I ask you all to contact this man for your peace of mind, and to help my cause.
my case has now gone to watchdog, so watch this space.
Barry

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Old 24 November 2004, 08:18 PM
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had you just had a service?
Old 24 November 2004, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by stoker
Im sure a lot of you will know me as a fanatical scooby man, well here is the bad news.
10 weeks ago my P1 went bang while driving up the A34 during rush hour traffic.The car was recovered direct back to my dealer by subaru assist.
The engine was removed and inspected by one of there techs who found all the bearings had failed .
So you all think oil failure no problem ,Wrong
Subaru warrantys services get independant engineer to inspect engine.his report says he found no fault with oil pump,so therefore they have refused to pay the claim.
The managing director of Sparshatts my dealer has backed my claim fully and even offered to pay50%of the claims labour costs, he has now refused to sell subaru warrantys and as a result is in a big dispute with subaru uk.
So be warned if you think you have a bullit proof warranty think again.
If you want to know how you would stand if you was left with a £5000+ bill please contact subaru uk ltd

or www.subaru.co uk
I ask you all to contact this man for your peace of mind, and to help my cause.
my case has now gone to watchdog, so watch this space.
Barry
what part of a34?

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Old 24 November 2004, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobyboy
had you just had a service?
ALL services done as per scedual last one done 1200 miles ago, i have owned car from new.
Old 24 November 2004, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by richir rich
what part of a34?
Just before M4 in road works
Old 24 November 2004, 08:39 PM
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That's so wierd, they replaced my engine (less labour) which was out of warranty - but the fault had been there for a long time inside the warranty though. Maybe the decision is made by executive toy and I got lucky?
Old 24 November 2004, 08:42 PM
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A mechanic at a dealer said to me recently that he believes that virtually every P1 in existence has had some engine warranty work to some degree. They have stated it wasn't the oil pump, but have they stated what DID actually fail ? Get the press involved. Top Gear and Evo mag may print your story. SUK would hate that, even though this board probably has more readers (but we're already customers ).

The poularity of this car is surely down to the fanaticism of its owners. If they p!ss enough of them off, surely one day they will suffer

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Old 24 November 2004, 08:44 PM
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Bad new Barry, I thought after reading you letter you recieved you would have been in with a good chance. Just goes to show its all to do with ££££££ and not customer satisfaction.
Old 24 November 2004, 09:09 PM
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Sorry to hear that this hasn't been sorted Barry - it really takes the **** - makes a mockery of the Warranty.

Hope you get there in the end.

Terry
Old 24 November 2004, 09:38 PM
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Good luck Barry.

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Old 24 November 2004, 10:02 PM
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And so what did the engineer say had caused the failure?
If you've got a std car and it has been serviced to the letter and maintained then what on earth has voided the warranty?

Nick
Old 24 November 2004, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Butty
And so what did the engineer say had caused the failure?
If you've got a std car and it has been serviced to the letter and maintained then what on earth has voided the warranty?

Nick
The car was standard and serviced they will not say what caused damage, it must have been some sort of lub problem, and yes oil level was normal.
Old 24 November 2004, 10:33 PM
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This is my third scoob in 5 years i have spent well over £60,000 at my local dealer,and this is how you are treated for your loyalty
Old 24 November 2004, 10:50 PM
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Get an independant inspection done on it quickly.
Old 24 November 2004, 11:18 PM
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Hope you get it sorted, I am sick of hearing stories about warranty's trying to wriggle out of there commitments, they lock you into servicing to keep it covered, body inspections at year 1, 3,and 5 you spend loads with them, and when something goes wrong they won't payout.
Looks like you have a good garage on your side.
Old 24 November 2004, 11:25 PM
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Ive read so many about so many problems with warrentys theyre a pain as there always seems to be a bad side to them usually the side which leave us paying £££££'s ive had my P1 awhile now had a clutch warrenty problem and just took it all the way to subaru.uk as dealer was talking rubbish and took it all the way to the top, wish you all the best mate with yours, keep us updated
Old 24 November 2004, 11:36 PM
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when i had my p1 it had paint bubbles on the boot and i was told it was down to my driving!!
the inspector drove from england to perth yet refused to talk to me on the phone when dealer asked him,he then said the photos he took were for internal purposes only and could not be used for an independent review
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Old 24 November 2004, 11:46 PM
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p1doc... That would have been at the local Perth Subaru Dealer would it?? T&C??

Stoker... IMO, you have got all the laws on your side here. The car is exactly how you bought it from them, you have it serviced by them religiously and you are a well known customer to the Dealership. There is NO way that they can refuse the warranty claim, this will be the outcome when Watchdog contact them, and if it goes that far, then definitely once the program goes live on air.

Best of luck mate, keep us posted.

Cheers,
Grant
Old 25 November 2004, 09:05 AM
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Just because there was no fault with something doesn't mean it was up to the job in the first place "Fit for purpose" is a useful phrase to drop casually into the conversation.

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Old 25 November 2004, 09:56 AM
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Barry,
Im so gutted for you, in case the point wasnt put across ast the top, Barry is Mr Subaru.
I really thought that the dealer getting involved would speed it up, I just cannot see under what reasoning they are witholding?
it defies logic.
keep us mate, in fact, can you call me tonight as Martine needs to speak with you about jobs
keep the faith mate,

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Old 25 November 2004, 11:40 AM
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Sorry to hear that mate. Does it really matter what the cause- as long as it wasn't the result of abuse or neglect by you- there should be no problem in them paying out. I don't see how they can refuse a claim just because oil pump wasn't found to be faulty. You could write to the head of public relations at Subaru and put your case to him. Whatever you do, I would also consider an independent mechanical inspection before you let anyone do any further work on it. That way you have unbiased 3rd party advice on which to base any further action on.

Best of luck.
Old 25 November 2004, 05:35 PM
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Barry

Absolutly gutted... Can't believe they refused 'my car'

Barry is indeed 'Mr Subaru' ..in fact, I don't think I've *ever* seen him without a piece of Subaru clothing on, and there is no way on earth that car was not maintained properly. If you saw Barry's face when he told us all what happened you'd know how gutted he was.

Barry, if there's anything we can do (unlikley I know) then you know where I am (and indeed the rest of the Hants lot) ...it's not the same without you and 'my car' around

Jenx
Old 25 November 2004, 05:51 PM
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Guys,

Can everyone keep this factual and not make comments based on unknowns and peoples blind theories.

If this thread goes down this route I will have no option but to remove the entire thread.

Regards,
Shaun.
Old 25 November 2004, 06:05 PM
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Has the car ever been on track? I cant think of any reason this claim would be refused.
Old 25 November 2004, 06:33 PM
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Barry,

Stick with it, like a dog with a bone...

hope it gets sorted soon, and see you at The Swan on the 13th... hopefully you’ll have some good news....

and as peanuts says: keep the faith.



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If no oil loss, Oil Pump OK and Catastropic bearing failure in many bearings. They should try looking at Filter, Pressure relief valve, Oil way blockage/integrity or loss of Pressure restriction feeds to Oil sprays.

Tony
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Sorry to hear this

I have had three scooby this being my first P1 i have only had it for 6 month the car was serviced regularly. I was driving on the M45 when I heard a knock noise on my engine, when the engine was removed they found that 1/2 inch had broken off the piston ring.

Only 500 miles left to run the engine in.

All the best and keep us posted
Old 25 November 2004, 08:59 PM
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Webmaster, i understand your concearn about this thread so here are the facts.
i have owned the car from new, fully serviced by dealer, no engine mods.
\engine has total failure ,gets recovered to local dealer,
.All bearings are wiped and i mean all. so an inspection is done by someone on behalf of SUBARU WARRANTY SERVICES they tell me the oil pump is ok so sorry no claim.
SO i ask how did you test the oil pump got no reply so i then ask what did cause the oil failure, no reply.
so i am now taking legal advice.

Many thanks for your time Barryl

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Old 25 November 2004, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by T5NYW
If no oil loss, Oil Pump OK and Catastropic bearing failure in many bearings. They should try looking at Filter, Pressure relief valve, Oil way blockage/integrity or loss of Pressure restriction feeds to Oil sprays.

Tony
HI Tony thanks for your advice your right and most of us know it but try tell subaru warrantys and it falls on deaf ears.
Old 25 November 2004, 09:08 PM
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Hi Barry, really sorry to hear that this is still dragging on and not going your way. Hope it all gets resolved favourably in the end .

Good to see you at Wales Rally GB.

All the best

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