StevieCar

Hi,

My wife and I had twins 3 weeks ago so I am needing a rocket that I can get kids in if need be. I have a budget of circa 20k and fancied a P1. My local dealer can get one and I have seen numerous in Top Marques for mid teens.
Can any of you guys answer a couple of questions for me;
1/ Running Costs? (Cheaper than M3 I assume)

2/ P1 or New Shape Used STI

3/ Difference between the old and new shape? (Excluding the shape LOL)

4/ Residual Stronger on P1?

Sorry to ask easy questions but Subarus are new to me having only ever driven my pal's standard turbo.

Thanks
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M444GY

iTrader: (72)

p1 is 3 door so not to practical for carting young kids around. but looks great never the less. used sti would be the best bet

mervil

iTrader: (5)

could always go for a Classic STi Version 6, 280bhp std and 4door practicality! Usually go for around £11-12k!

StevieCar

What is a version 6 Mervil? What version are the ones I would have seen today at the dealer with the Bug Eyes?

scooby-jay

probally v8 mate
scooby-jay

WH03JAM

Stevie,

Had the same dilema as you a few months back. In the end I went for a used V8 STi over a P1 as its easier to get the kids in and out.
The P1 does look the Dogs bo****ks though as its a 2 door, but finding one that wasnt nearly out of warranty was my problem and considering that the current shape scoobies (V8) were selling for the same price as a used 2 year plus old P1 really sold it for me.

nickejmartin

i have run 2 p1s - my current one has 11,000 miles and warranty till jul 05. we have three kids and have just completed our annual trip bristol to manchester airport. Lets put it like this - 10 hours Las Vegas to manchester on an A330 airbus was slightly more comfortable!! But thats the wifes point of view and sharing a back seat in a P1 with 2 kids and a suitcase can't be much fun, especially with a full decat system as well!!

As long as you are ok to compromise they are fine if you have kids. Running costs are ok - nothing horrendous and I have done nearly 60,000 miles in total. Performance is superb, looks far better than most cars, and if you are prepared to suffer a bit of discomfort when fully loaded, there is no problems. However watch the 2 doors - we saw a horrendous accident on the M23 out of Brighton some 3 months back, and you'll never get in a 2 door car again having seen that - you need to take care if you have passengers in the back and drive sensibly.

Car may be up for sale if interested - evo8 beckons

kart_man

Version 6 was the last of the 'classic' shape. 7 and above is the new shape.

MJW

Twins ? You should be looking at a wagon !!


... with PPP of course

stiks

I have one 3 year old and a new nipper on the way. I run an 02 STI and space aint an issue.

1/ Running Costs - probably not much in it. I don't know anyone who buys a scoob caused theyre cheap to run !

2/ P1 or new age:
Whilst a P1 is a stunning car, really nice low mileage examples are less common, though hardly scarce. 2 doors might be an issue.
I'd opt for a new age .... just a personal thing.

3/ New age or classic

You really should drive both. - IMHO the new age is more refined, handles better and has a much better interior. The classic is I believe quicker (unmodded) as it's lighter. Classics are prettier.

4/ Residuals
Not a good point with scoobs - specially 51/02 wrx's etc. P1 will be stronger but depends how long you keep your cars for.

For your budget (up to 20k) you could have a new WRX, an 02 or 03 STI or a really nice P1.

Re wagons - 5 doors is handy, but the boot in the new age is quite spacious.

In summary - use the dealers to drive some cars then draw up a short list and go hunting

Good luck.

StevieCar

Thanks for evrything guys. Useful for a novice.

Nick Martin- I would buy your car if possible.