The Nurburgring - thoughts....
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The Nurburgring - thoughts....
After going to the 'Ring for the first time 6 weekes ago and going again in 2 weeks my opinion of what "a good car is" has dramatically changed.
Who has been to the Ring, what do you drive and what cars surprised you or impressed you on the day??
My conclusion was simple....."BHP means ****" !!!"
Who has been to the Ring, what do you drive and what cars surprised you or impressed you on the day??
My conclusion was simple....."BHP means ****" !!!"
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Been in my STi and my 205GTi...Enjoyed the 205 the most other than the long up hill sections where its underpowered.
Always amazed by the ability of the local drivers in Golfs and Polo's.
911's are always the ultimate order of the day over there though ...other than M3 CSL's of course
Oh and im going back with Senior AP and Davy boy in under two weeks
Always amazed by the ability of the local drivers in Golfs and Polo's.
911's are always the ultimate order of the day over there though ...other than M3 CSL's of course
Oh and im going back with Senior AP and Davy boy in under two weeks
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Originally Posted by ian_sadler
BHP is great if you can remember which way the next blind corner goes
The quickest cars there on the whole were 215bhp. I won't say what they are but I will say that a balanced car built for that environment was quicker than 90% of other motors.
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Would love to have a go someday - if we're talking about the full monty circuit here.
Incidentally - if you need to learn the track, it's going to be in Gran Turismo 4...
Incidentally - if you need to learn the track, it's going to be in Gran Turismo 4...
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Originally Posted by messiah
Would love to have a go someday - if we're talking about the full monty circuit here.
Incidentally - if you need to learn the track, it's going to be in Gran Turismo 4...
Incidentally - if you need to learn the track, it's going to be in Gran Turismo 4...
The "Nordschleife" which is the North Loop translated. Its 13.8 (ish) miles long, up and down, blind corners, off cambers etc etc. Been there once and found it the best exerience ever.
Ever!!
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Incidentally - if you need to learn the track, it's going to be in Gran Turismo 4...
And for anybody who thinks the GT1 handles unrealistically well in the game, take a look at this video and you will see if anything it is an underestimation of how a real race car handles the ring. You have to register, and will need broadband, but it's one of the best videos I have ever seen, and makes me understand that I could never be a racing driver.
http://www.fastdrive.org/download.php?view.224
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Don't forget good old fashioned driving ability, I've passengered MattOz in his old Beemer 330 Diesel and we whooped a fair bit of ***. You can't beat a bit of good driving ability and track knowledge for a smoother, faster ride
Would love to go round in a GT3 someday
Would love to go round in a GT3 someday
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Originally Posted by scoobychick
Don't forget good old fashioned driving ability, I've passengered MattOz in his old Beemer 330 Diesel and we whooped a fair bit of ***. You can't beat a bit of good driving ability and track knowledge for a smoother, faster ride
Would love to go round in a GT3 someday
Would love to go round in a GT3 someday
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
The most important of them all. If I was in a GT3 (for arguments sake) and Michael Schumacher was in err....a Golf GTI I am confident he would kick my ar$e.
Richard
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Originally Posted by rdkr
Been around it on a couple of superbikes in years past. Pretty scarey stuff. Porkies and Ferrari's doing you on tight bends and then you find yourself up the back end of an old VW beetle whilst doing a tonne. I even saw a mini moke driven by a mad dutch guy once. I think he spent the same amount of time on two wheels as i did.lol
Richard
Richard
That's the spirit !!!!!
The place is great. Though I must say, I didn't see any Ferrari's there. People that have Ferrari's tend to prefer rubbing their ***** on them rather than driving the fooocking things.
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Originally Posted by davyboy
It's a long way to drive to show off your dump valve/neons/flamer kits AP.
BwwoooooOOOAAAAAARPPPPPPP ChhhhhHIIIIISSSHHHHHHH!!!!!!
Lexus rear lights anyone????
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Most impressed by:
locals in Mk1 Golfs
MattOz's 330D Sport
Ulf and Anders' GT3's
Would most like to have a go in:
GL's Ferrari F40 - just for the hell of it
The M5 with Sabine
Would most like NOT to have a go in:
The ring mini - cos its daft
Came nearest to dying in:
Felly's westie
locals in Mk1 Golfs
MattOz's 330D Sport
Ulf and Anders' GT3's
Would most like to have a go in:
GL's Ferrari F40 - just for the hell of it
The M5 with Sabine
Would most like NOT to have a go in:
The ring mini - cos its daft
Came nearest to dying in:
Felly's westie
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I did 3 laps in succession. Got my tyres nice and hot.....tyre pressures up to well over 40 I would think just so I could show off on some of the corners by going sideways in a RWD Porker.
Sad - yes
Fun - YES!!!!
Sad - yes
Fun - YES!!!!
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Handling and brakes are very important there as well as knowledge. BHP is secondary. I was passed by a VW Bora with suspension mods and HUGE tyres. He wasn't quick on the straights but left me for dead in the twisties
All these scoob tuners on here who pay big bucks for horse power and then stick crappy springs on their cars as a token jesture to handling, have got the balance badly wrong IMHO.
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All these scoob tuners on here who pay big bucks for horse power and then stick crappy springs on their cars as a token jesture to handling, have got the balance badly wrong IMHO.
F
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Originally Posted by Floyd
Handling and brakes are very important there as well as knowledge. BHP is secondary. I was passed by a VW Bora with suspension mods and HUGE tyres. He wasn't quick on the straights but left me for dead in the twisties
All these scoob tuners on here who pay big bucks for horse power and then stick crappy springs on their cars as a token jesture to handling, have got the balance badly wrong IMHO.
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All these scoob tuners on here who pay big bucks for horse power and then stick crappy springs on their cars as a token jesture to handling, have got the balance badly wrong IMHO.
F
But most who spend big bucks on BHP are more interested in quarter mile times and pub talk as opposed to blasting round the ring (not all)
It's been mentioned many times on here that scoobys have amazing grip but this doesn't equate to a good track car. It's not often that a 4WD rally car is going to be as quick round a track as well set up RWD and possibly FWD car with similar or even less BHP.
All IMHO of course and not wanting to offend anyone
Chris
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The quickest cars there on the whole were 215bhp
Do you lot not go on the Nurburgring?? Prefer to stick to the 'twisties' of the UK??
Some of you must have?? Or do you stick to the 'Real World'???
Some of you must have?? Or do you stick to the 'Real World'???
It's a long way to drive to show off your dump valve/neons/flamer kits
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Craig - I'd love to see the black car out there
Editted to say not the M3.. t'other black one
Editted to say not the M3.. t'other black one
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#29
Originally Posted by CraigH
Whatever
CraigH - you are spot on. The way those things handle is worth 100bhp on its own. They are better quality than most cars available and are just...well....they f$cking rule!!!!