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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 12:39 AM
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As above. I have seen an Sti Type R for sale but it does not have the redtop manafold or strut brace and has an intercooler the same as my MY96 wrx wagon. any ideas if it is what it says?? did they ever make a wrx type R?
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 12:43 AM
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They did make WRX Type R's, yes. Spec is as per the four door WRX of whatever model year it is. If the car is advertised as a WRX Type R, it is what it says. If it's advertised as an STi, it isn't, if you see what I mean.
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 12:47 AM
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Yes It is for sale as an sti type R. didnt think it was right without those bits.
Thanks I will send another mail to look into it more.
I really want a Type R Which would be the best to go for? would like to aim for 350Bhp..
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 10:03 AM
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Have you actually seen the car? Check the model code on the passenger side of the engine bay and compare the code with the SIDC faq www.sidc.co.uk

The earliest STi Type R has model designation GC8D2DD, but I was under the impressions that all Type R's had the phase 2 (red top) engine?
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 12:06 PM
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No only seen it here
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...sPageName=WDVW

Does this give any Ideas???
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 12:10 PM
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Perhaps it had an engine change? You'll need the engine number and the model code, as ppl have already said
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Power Junkie
No only seen it here
Does this give any Ideas???
Yeah, it does. This car is not an STi, it's a WRX Type R as you suspected.

It was originally up on eBay two or three weeks back. Looks like the original high bidder worked out that the description was incorrect and decided not to go ahead.

You also have to ask how honest "MDB Imports" is being here. It seems as though he/she is trading in Subarus, yet either can't tell the difference between an STi and a WRX, or, worse, is deliberately mis-representing the car in the hope that clueless potential buyers won't be able to tell the difference until it's too late. So, either he/she is clueless, and doesn't know what he/she is selling, or worse. Either way I wouldn't buy a car from them.

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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by greasemonkey
Yeah, it does. This car is not an STi, it's a WRX Type R as you suspected.

It was originally up on eBay two or three weeks back. Looks like the original high bidder worked out that the description was incorrect and decided not to go ahead.

You also have to ask how honest "MDB Imports" is being here. It seems as though he/she is trading in Subarus, yet either can't tell the difference between an STi and a WRX, or, worse, is deliberately mis-representing the car in the hope that clueless potential buyers won't be able to tell the difference until it's too late. So, either he/she is clueless, and doesn't know what he/she is selling, or worse. Either way I wouldn't buy a car from them.
Thanks for confirming my suspicions about this car.. Just feel sorry for the people who dont know there subarus and think they are bidding for an sti and therefore the added price premium..
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 05:22 PM
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It's probably irelevant now as it's probably at the bottom of the sea with my two recently purchased JAP cars!! Sunk by an oil tanker

I too have learned that there are two types of Type R tho.

I Also suspect a degree of innocence as the ad shows the engine bay. Unlikely to have done this if it was to deceive someone?
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 05:30 PM
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Does the WRX Type R have the dccd then? And whats its power output?
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 05:35 PM
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For what it's worth I phoned "MDB Imports" at the mobile number listed on eBay just after my previous post in an attempt to find out what he/she was playing at.

The chap initially tried to tell me that "the only 3(sic) door cars Subaru made were STi's". When I asked him why the car didn't have a red inlet manifold, silver intercooler, intercooler water spray, or electric centre diff he didn't come up with an answer (apart from "some people paint the manifold silver"), and admitted he didn't even know what the electric centre diff was.

He claimed that "his people in Japan" had told him that the car was an STi, and thus he advertised it as such. I suggested to him that if someone were to buy the car on this basis, and then find out the truth, they wouldn't exactly be very happy, to which he agreed. I also suggested he quickly do some research to verify what I'd said, prior to the end of the auction.

It may be that this chap is a genuinely clueless innocent and has been hoodwinked by whoever supplied the car. If this is the case, I'm sure he will double-check what I told him and withdraw or modify the auction. If he doesn't, well, we'll see what happens.
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 06:19 PM
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Nice detective work GM
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 07:22 PM
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Lol, not much detective work involved really, just a case of dialling the number shown in the advert and asking some simple questions.

I wouldn't like to see anyone from this community suffering as a result of this sort of thing - honest mistake or otherwise - which was why I followed it up. Now others are aware of what's gone on, they can draw their own conclusions should the misdescription of the car continue.

The other possibly pertinent point is that the "owner" seems to have changed his eBay user name since last putting the car up for auction. The previous one, BTW, is here.
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 08:18 PM
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interestingly the seller in the first auction is now showing as 'not a registered user', a tag only usually used when somebody has been sent to the naughty corner.
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 08:26 PM
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Yes, that hadn't escaped my attention. I tried to contact eBay earlier, but it appears you need to register an account with them simply to send an email. If anyone reading this thread has an account, is there any chance you could send them a headsup with the URL's of the two auctions, plus a quick note about the car being incorrectly advertised?
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 08:49 PM
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Write down what you want to say and ill send it.
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 11:59 PM
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http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=286686

This really pi$$es me off..If you ask me there is definatly a "dishonest" motive to this sale.

When I bought my pride and joy a year ago, I went to see a few at the Importers such as this one and could spot the

My advice to you mate is to do the same...this will give you a better chance of getting an honest genuine car from someone who has looked after it.

I have mine for sale at the mo but maybe it's out of your budget?

check it out and if not...good luck and stick to the for sale forums on here..

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A GENUINE TYPE R!!!!
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 12:05 AM
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Hi guys,

Just a quick msg to put my side of things over regarding the Impreza i currently have advertised on ebay.

Earlier today i had a telephone call from, who i guess must of been grease monkey.

I've made checks on the auction sheet for the car and with Japan and to clarify it is a Subaru Impreza WRX Type R V Ltd. So i'd like to appologise for any confussion caused and to say nothing sinister was attempted from myself.

To be honest i didn't study the pictures prior to listing the car, i do know that STI's come with the 'red top' intake manifold etc. So was a little offgaurd when grease monkey contacted me. Just a pure mistake. I just took it as a 2 door impreza was a 'STI Type R' or a '22b' and wasn't aware that Subaru made a WRX Type R.

With importing a wide variety of cars from Japan, from Impreza, Supras, skylines, evos to the boring stuff like Pajeros etc, its a little difficult to keep up with the wide range of models. Anyway thanks, as thats something i've learned for the day.

Car will be re-listed accordingly at some point tommorow.

Again sorry for any confussion and with someone mentioning about the change of ebay id. Due to someone sending me an email impersinating ebay and wanting me to confirm my details etc. Still new to all this ebay stuff. lol

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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 12:20 AM
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Thanks for fronting up and clarifying the situation Matt. As I'm sure you can imagine, the consequences of selling the car under these circumstances wouldn't have been pleasant - for you as much as the eventual buyer. Bad eBay feedback would have been the least of your worries I'd imagine.

While there certainly are a wide variety of models available from Japan, I'm sure you're now aware of the necessity to do the legwork necessary to know exactly what you're selling. Even if someone in Japan makes an honest mistake, the contract will be between yourself and the buyer, so it'll be you left holding the baby should there be a recurrence of a situation like this.
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 12:31 AM
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I thought all type R's were STI's, but nice to learn something else cheer's

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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 01:11 AM
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Thanks Guys! Good job done me thinks...
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Looks like it may have been a genuine mistake then.

Its kind of refreshing for someone to actually come forward and admit an error, and to do something about it.

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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 05:11 PM
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Guys... Is it just me or are you all on acid
I have checked all subaru model variants and this is as far as i know

Type R's are ALL STi 2 doors with red top engines and DccD

Type RA's are 4 door rally enrty level cars and come in
STI RA or WRX RA
Obviously the red top manifold ids the sign of an STi and the later STis comes with DccD which is Drivers Centre Control Differential which moves the drive Bias from 50-50 to around 60-40

Check out muddy's site

http://www.mudd90.freeserve.co.uk

or this one http://www.wrx.co.uk/

or this

http://www.j-garage.com/4110.htm

there is never a mention of a WRX Type r
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 06:10 PM
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GC8E27D & GC8F27D are the Applied model numbers for the WRX Type-R V limited. The websites youve linked to are poor.

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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 06:41 PM
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Just a note on MDB IMPORTS....he owes various people around the country in the region of £70,000 as he took large deposits promising cars and never came up with the goods......if you ever see anything listed under MDB IMPORTS dont touch it as its not really there...


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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 06:42 PM
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The Police caught up with Matt Bond; as did at least one dissatisfied customer.....
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 09:17 PM
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I know mate it was me and my friend who got CID in fleetwood onto him after spending 2 days up there trying to get our cars or money....in the end we got a car each...and i know of another guy on here who got some baliffs to take a car out of his garage.....


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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 09:33 PM
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I wondered if it was you whod told me after Id posted that.....

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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 10:46 PM
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You can also get a non sti 2 door wrx type ra v-limited
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 11:01 PM
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ooh do we get to find out about 4door RAs in 2006 then?
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