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17 April 2004, 11:02 PM
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My Eyes have Been Opened
Got a WR 1 on order, but not happy with the dealer is keeping me in the dark. thinking of canceling. 
Sick of WRX need a change, drove a BMW 330D Sport today Wow!! Loads of torque and much more driveable than a WRX, your thoughts please.
Oh and 40mpg
Sick of WRX need a change, drove a BMW 330D Sport today Wow!! Loads of torque and much more driveable than a WRX, your thoughts please.
Oh and 40mpg
17 April 2004, 11:06 PM
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17 April 2004, 11:08 PM
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Just got home and was driven in a 330 ci by the wife.
It's my father in laws car and he has had it for 1 1/2 years and is very happy with it.
He sold his RB5 to me to buy the 330 ci. The car has got better build quallity than a scoob but i would not swap my scoob for it even though it's worth more.
My wife was driving coz we all been drinking! First time she has driven it and even with the semi auto box (what ever BMW call it) it drove very smoothly.
Nice car in my opinion but would not swap it for a scoob.
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It's my father in laws car and he has had it for 1 1/2 years and is very happy with it.
He sold his RB5 to me to buy the 330 ci. The car has got better build quallity than a scoob but i would not swap my scoob for it even though it's worth more.
My wife was driving coz we all been drinking! First time she has driven it and even with the semi auto box (what ever BMW call it) it drove very smoothly.
Nice car in my opinion but would not swap it for a scoob.
IMOH
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17 April 2004, 11:11 PM
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6 pot, did you seriously compare the 2 cars? Didn't you notice how the BMW steering seems to be cleverly linked to a bowl of porridge & bears little relationship with the road surface? 
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17 April 2004, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick
6 pot, did you seriously compare the 2 cars? Didn't you notice how the BMW steering seems to be cleverly linked to a bowl of porridge & bears little relationship with the road surface?
The steering on the BMW 330 ci is very responsive (sp?). that was one comment my wife made on the way home. Yes she does drive my scoob as well as her slk.
330 ci is a nice car to own and drive
17 April 2004, 11:26 PM
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What rubbish 
Comments from people who have never driven Beemers I think.
Comments from people who have never driven Beemers I think.
17 April 2004, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick
Owned a BMW 333i Turbo for 10 years. Started & ran the Bristol area of the BMW Drivers Club. Have test drove just about every beemer apart from the gay roadsters.
Any car 10 years + would not be as good as todays cars, what ever the make.
I think 6 pot is talking about a new bmw if not new then nearly new
17 April 2004, 11:40 PM
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Owned a BMW 333i Turbo for 10 years. Started & ran the Bristol area of the BMW Drivers Club. Have test drove just about every beemer apart from the gay roadsters.
If you were talking about an Audi I would agree...not a BMW...
17 April 2004, 11:46 PM
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Maybe you haven't driven a Subaru then?
If you were talking about an Audi I would agree...not a BMW...
If you were talking about an Audi I would agree...not a BMW...
17 April 2004, 11:49 PM
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Nick, why have you test driven nearly all BMW's, are you a tyre kicker, or a BMW Salesman?!
17 April 2004, 11:52 PM
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Just a thought about Bracknell....
Why is it on BMW open days there are NEVER any police speed traps around the public roads BMW Bracknell use as a test track?
Why is it on BMW open days there are NEVER any police speed traps around the public roads BMW Bracknell use as a test track?
17 April 2004, 11:54 PM
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I think at the end of the day a BMW has MORE class then a scoob.
It might not be as much of an animal but the overall performace is very good.
6 pot has asked for our opinion on bmw's, we have given them but some of the comments have been a bit unfair.
6 pot, you get what you want, you will get a bit more fun out the scoob but you will feel a bit more,,,,,,,,not sure what word to use, ?upperclass? in a bmw
Buy what you want, not that i would buy a bmw, but then i'm 27 years old and the scoob is more of a younger persons car. Give it a few years and i'll prob' be looking at bmw's
Hope my last comment does not upset anyone.
It might not be as much of an animal but the overall performace is very good.
6 pot has asked for our opinion on bmw's, we have given them but some of the comments have been a bit unfair.
6 pot, you get what you want, you will get a bit more fun out the scoob but you will feel a bit more,,,,,,,,not sure what word to use, ?upperclass? in a bmw
Buy what you want, not that i would buy a bmw, but then i'm 27 years old and the scoob is more of a younger persons car. Give it a few years and i'll prob' be looking at bmw's
Hope my last comment does not upset anyone.
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17 April 2004, 11:55 PM
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Now you're talking crap. 99my Turbo owned for 3 years. WR1 on order.
You however, are talking out of your ****, and if you have really driven those cars which I doubt, you would know it.
I am hardly BMW's biggest fan but
BMW steering seems to be cleverly linked to a bowl of porridge & bears little relationship with the road surface
Good night.
17 April 2004, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by bloke
No, because happily I'm not acquainted with your car ownership...
You however, are talking out of your ****, and if you have really driven those cars which I doubt, you would know it.
I am hardly BMW's biggest fan but
is just crap.
Good night.
You however, are talking out of your ****, and if you have really driven those cars which I doubt, you would know it.
I am hardly BMW's biggest fan but
is just crap.
Good night.
Good night and you are the weakest link!!
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18 April 2004, 12:01 AM
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well as far as i can see ( i have sti and thoroughly enjoy 
) unless your rallyin / on track - it is pretty occasional when one can actually employ impreza s strenghs - and all the time 20 mpg
) unless your rallyin / on track - it is pretty occasional when one can actually employ impreza s strenghs - and all the time 20 mpg
18 April 2004, 08:19 AM
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Hi 6 pot
Having come from a 99MY Turbo that had been mildly tuned I think I can comment on the 330D Sport as thats what I now own.
In terms of out right performance the Scooby was better, and no doubt a WR1 would be as well, but the gap is closer than a lot of people would think. If, like me you do a lot of motorway miles the BMW is a much nicer place to be. I have a manual car and it rarely comes out of 6th unless I want to accelerate very rapidly, but 6th is good enough most of the time. With the criuse control on it easily returns 43mpg+ at around 80.
The steering is every bit as good as the Scooby and ride quality is significantly better even with the 18" sports wheels and sports suspension.
There are 2 variants of the engine the older 184bhp version and the new 204bhp version. The new engine comes with a 6 speed manaul box which is pretty good as well. If you fancy a bit more power for around £300 you can put a tuning box on it which takes the 204bhp car to 245bhp and 490nm...
If you can get a car with mainteance pack then you get 60K miles worth of everything apart from tyres included as well. The service intervals are also the better part of 20K miles.
Steve
Having come from a 99MY Turbo that had been mildly tuned I think I can comment on the 330D Sport as thats what I now own.
In terms of out right performance the Scooby was better, and no doubt a WR1 would be as well, but the gap is closer than a lot of people would think. If, like me you do a lot of motorway miles the BMW is a much nicer place to be. I have a manual car and it rarely comes out of 6th unless I want to accelerate very rapidly, but 6th is good enough most of the time. With the criuse control on it easily returns 43mpg+ at around 80.
The steering is every bit as good as the Scooby and ride quality is significantly better even with the 18" sports wheels and sports suspension.
There are 2 variants of the engine the older 184bhp version and the new 204bhp version. The new engine comes with a 6 speed manaul box which is pretty good as well. If you fancy a bit more power for around £300 you can put a tuning box on it which takes the 204bhp car to 245bhp and 490nm...
If you can get a car with mainteance pack then you get 60K miles worth of everything apart from tyres included as well. The service intervals are also the better part of 20K miles.
Steve
18 April 2004, 08:51 AM
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You are all a bunch of numpties
I own both a Scoob and a 330Ci...
...best experience was going to Scoob meet in BMW and catching up with cross country run for Scoobs on way to venue. And after a 'spirited' drive the BMW kept up easily with the group.
And the reality is that the Scoob should have trounced the gay beemer as it was twisty, and peeing down!!
On road performance of top end three series is very close to standard Scoobs. On track the Scoob would win given similar driver skill.
The big difference is that after three years my BMW is worth over 60% of what I paid for it...my Scoob was worth around 50% at best after the same period.
Anyway, my wife has the beemer now as I have another gay German car instead
Rannoch
I own both a Scoob and a 330Ci...
...best experience was going to Scoob meet in BMW and catching up with cross country run for Scoobs on way to venue. And after a 'spirited' drive the BMW kept up easily with the group.
And the reality is that the Scoob should have trounced the gay beemer as it was twisty, and peeing down!!
On road performance of top end three series is very close to standard Scoobs. On track the Scoob would win given similar driver skill.
The big difference is that after three years my BMW is worth over 60% of what I paid for it...my Scoob was worth around 50% at best after the same period.
Anyway, my wife has the beemer now as I have another gay German car instead
Rannoch
