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Old 20 March 2004, 03:54 PM
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Talking Ive just had my Spec C on the rollers (MY03)


What more can i say, the car is standard apart from the Hayward and Scott b/box, 1600 miles on the clock, in auto (not manual DCCD), figures are as follows (optimax and millers ob).

BHP 282 (5000rpm)
P@W 222


Now for the biggie

TORQUE:- 343.5lbs (rpm 3780)

I think ive got all that right

A BIG thanks to Pete and the boys at ProSport for letting me run

Tony
Old 20 March 2004, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns

TORQUE:- 343.5lbs (rpm 3780)




Nice !!!!!
Old 20 March 2004, 04:01 PM
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Excellent mate!!
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Old 20 March 2004, 04:02 PM
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Tony, I can well believe it mate, once they loosen up they really seem to fly.

Ask Litcho what the peak figures they've seen for the T25 is under ideal circumstances!! :O
Old 20 March 2004, 04:02 PM
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Is it not re-mapped for uk fuel mate?

litchfields makes 330BHP? I know its been re-mapped and got the milltek on it though.
Old 20 March 2004, 04:03 PM
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This is the standard map that the car has in japan, i think thats quite reasonable considering she wasnt in lock either

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Old 20 March 2004, 04:14 PM
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the torque with those headers and the twin scroll even as standard is amazing.

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Old 20 March 2004, 04:32 PM
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Torque figure is very good .....I drove Iain red car and it was awesome to say the least
Old 20 March 2004, 04:34 PM
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Its about 100lbs of torque more than my last impreza (MY00 PPP).
She is still quite tight though so will try again on the rolling road in a few months when she has a few k more under her belt

Tony
Old 20 March 2004, 04:43 PM
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the roller bearing turbo must make a hell of a difference Bobs jap my03 sti only made 290 lbs ft(i thnk) standard
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The VF36 does pick up quite quickly and as its a rollerbearing it has less drag due to friction, all in all im pretty happy with the results (especially with the torque )

Tony
Old 20 March 2004, 06:45 PM
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I'm so tempted to replace my P1 with a C Spec. I was there this morning Tony when the Lancer boys rolled in, Pete was running around like a mad man trying to get them in.
Old 20 March 2004, 07:30 PM
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seems to totally contradict my figures:
- 298 bhp
- 321 lbft
backbox + 4k miles.
Old 20 March 2004, 07:34 PM
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Imagine what a de-cat exhaust, panel filter, and a remap could do to those figures!
Better check this thread out Tony http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=283364
Old 20 March 2004, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Danny B
Imagine what a de-cat exhaust, panel filter, and a remap could do to those figures!
Better check this thread out Tony http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=283364
Yes Bob's car was at Prosport last time I had my specC on the rollers.

Quite surprised two almost identical specC's are getting such different figures, and not consistently (considering both run on same rollers, albeit on different days).
Old 20 March 2004, 08:32 PM
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Better check this thread out Tony
Yes but get in line

Nathan..
Old 20 March 2004, 08:33 PM
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Was your brew Optimax & Millers aswell?
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---BHP 282 (5000rpm)---

why only 5000rpm ??
Old 20 March 2004, 09:23 PM
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6,600 my max bhp and 4000 max torque. Need to get mine RR-ed again
Old 20 March 2004, 09:32 PM
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Well if its accurate torque is fantastic, but I suspect its not, Prosport have trouble reading rpm from these cars, to check get them to print you a graph of speed versus power, then use the rpm at 60 mph that I know is 4450 to calculate what your torque is. If it confirms then great however i suspect not, Mike R's 321 number was suspect in my view as well although both his and this power fugures are very comparable to those of my car when it was std.

My prosport run had no torque as we knew the rpm figure was not right, I calced mine out from the power speed curve and got 355 ft lbs, I doubt that you are generating enough power from a car in std trim to get 340 ish, the intake and exhaust are both too restrictive and the std ecu maps don't lean towards those sorts of numbers.

What was your peak and held boost during the run ?

Sorry to be a damp squib, hope the figures are right.

bob
Old 21 March 2004, 11:05 AM
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Hiya Bob,
The info ive got on the printout that i can give is this:-

Tmax=343.5lbs, at n=3780rpm v=71.2mph

Pmax=282.4bhp, at v=94.2mph n=5000rpm

Ptol=-14.4% Pweels=222.3bhp Ploss=55.7bhp

Temp=55f, Press.=985mbar k=1.016 (din)

They ran the car to see if the reading was accurate (rpm) and looked so, but ill probably need to go for another (different) rolling road for a comparison really.

Tony
Old 21 March 2004, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by mikeswrt
seems to totally contradict my figures:
- 298 bhp
- 321 lbft
backbox + 4k miles.
Mike,
The diff wasnt locked though on mine, she was in auto mode...
Im going to put her on the rr again when she has a few more miles under her belt though

Tony
Old 21 March 2004, 08:57 PM
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Tony if you have the graph of power v speed scan and mail and I'll do the math and mail it back, Prosport rollers are comparable for power to PE and G Force who are with 5bhp of each other normally imho, its just that Pete was having problems getting his rpm reader to pick up properly on cars with coil packs. Not his fault but down to the equipment.

bob
Old 21 March 2004, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
Mike,
The diff wasnt locked though on mine, she was in auto mode...
Im going to put her on the rr again when she has a few more miles under her belt though

Tony
When I got 321 lbft it was in auto mode also.
Old 21 March 2004, 09:52 PM
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when she has a few k more under her belt
TonyBurns

I could help there as I don't work mon-fri !

Failing that, bring her along to the Fenay Bridge meet this thursday. We should be arranging our next FunDay at Rallydrive, so you have to bring her to that, as well as your cheap toy Entrance fee next time is $21 + passenger ride in the SpecC
Old 21 March 2004, 11:11 PM
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In auto mode the losses in the transmission are greater, should be run in manual really with the diff locked ie control fully forward (remember to unlock b4 driving off the rollers). However for as long as you always do the same then its of no matter. Rollers are, after all, only a comparitor to check on improvements and compare against others. So as long as two similar cars are run the same way then the relative differences ought to be seen. Tony was it run in 4th or 5th ?

bob
Old 22 March 2004, 11:40 AM
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Best let Bob "sort out " your car with filter, Exhaust and re-map and enjoy the difference. Gains to be had for not a lot of dosh on the 9s is unbelievable.
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Sorry Bob, been away last week.
I think she was run in 5th, ill get the graph scanned this weekend and ill email it over to you, she seems to have loosened up a little over the last week (done 500 miles) so feels more enthusiastic now.

Thanks in advance!

Tony
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