virgin

Hi

Sti6 , anyone know what year that would be ?

cheers all

alistair

'99 & 2000

virgin

nice one , cheers

virgin

is the sti 7 280 bhp and the sti8 less ?

greasemonkey

They are all model year 2000, although the earliest examples would likely have been available in Japanese dealers from around October-November '99 onwards.

Here we go again. Would you care to tell us WTF you're talking about? As Midlife says, there's no such thing as an "STi7", or indeed an "STi8", and the cars that various people use these numbers to refer to are from different markets, under different model years, and have different power outputs, so mentioning these numbers alone doesn't really help us to answer your question.

Are you asking about European or Japanese market cars, and of what specific model years?

The Japanese market STi's have had between 285 and 300bhp as standard since the STi Version 5 and through the 6, MY01, MY02, MY03 and MY04 generations.

The STi Type UK's (and the very similar European version) have been rated at 265ps since the original 2002MY version was released (there wasn't an MY01 version Midlife), and still are.

jackieFMbrunei

greasemonkey

argue wit me all u want, but our dealer/supplier said and i quote "vr6 is MY00 and classic, vr7 is M01/02 and bugeye. while vr8 is M03/04 sofar and "blob" eye", n he quote that from fuji industry/subaru.

not sure bout european market, but we in brunei got the same spec as the ozzies,

rgrds

greasemonkey

I don't have to argue about it Jackie, my position is supported by the people who actually make the cars, so if you're going to disagree with me, you're also basically saying that Subaru and Prodrive are wrong, which is a rather difficult proposition to support, no?

Your dealer is doing exactly the same as the people on Scoobynet who use these "numbers" -i.e. making it up as they go along.

MikeWood

If there were no changes between model years then the STi? would perhaps run through but this isn't the case, there are always changes. 01 is different to 02 (grille etc) as well as not being sold in markets outside Japan, just as 03 has differences to 04.

As we didn't get STi in Europe until 02MY then it is impossible that the following description can apply for example; 'STi7 PPP' We don't do a PPP for ANY JDM car and that's the only place the car was sold as an 01MY

Much better if we all use Model Year.

Mike

Danny B

GM,
You spend far too much time on here correcting petty model reference codes, haven't you got cars to repair

greasemonkey

Lol, in this instance, it was impossible to answer Virgin's question accurately without bringing the MY and market into it, so what else did you expect?

There's far less room for confusion if MY and market are used instead of the "numbers", which have now been misused and misinterpreted by so many people that only very few now know what they really mean.

AJbaseBloke

Well, science fact is that Japan doesn't use them, and therefore, as greaemonkey says, you can get stuffed about if you try to apply that to something that plainly does NOT match it.

The "revision system" is similar to the year sytem, but release dates are not calendar. IMHO, it'd be much easier if people just learnt how to read the VIN plates.

greasemonkey

Not really a practical way to identify the cars round these parts tho.

virgin

Jesus ! i didnt want to start a war............but i will finish it

i am new to scoobynet,hence virgin

i am new scoobs,period.

i have learnt everything i know on scoobynet

The reason why some people use my03 sti8, or whatever,is becuase when they first come on the site they pick up whatever they first read or hear as a referal.

So........

Do i use the term ......Myo3 sti uk model or STi 7 uk model or Sti 7 import etc
I am getting realy confused !

The faq sheets dont specify out puts on later models on sidc

I am new,i dont want to upset anyone ,however if i use the term sti6 i get moaned at,and if i use the term myoo i get asked if its an import.

anyway....dont get offensive with each other over, just understand the terms on this site will no doubt carry on spreading like a virus, unless its defined somewhere like on faq pages,new members will just keep on picking up bad habbits.
you guys are the experts ! whilst your all moaning at each other new memebrs r picking up the wrong terms.

anyway, thanks for you replys, i have learnt another load of mixed opions (:

virgin

Oh i understand now

all uk`s my 99 my 00 my 01

Oh and never use the term sti6 sti7 and so on..

If i am talking about imports i will just put, myo2 import !

Have i got it right ?

Oh and whats this type 25 thing ? i know the wr1 is a uk car ,so i guess its a..... my04 wr1

greasemonkey

No problem, didn't think you did, but this subject has become my pet hate lately, and I don't think I'm the only one.

Trouble is chap, that you're now gonna be stuck with that username forevermore! It's a bit like all the people with 3000 posts that have "newbie" in their username, ultimately you can't tell who's new to the game and who isn't. For all I knew your username could have been a reference to something else altogether.

Yeah, I know. Unfortunately the only way to stop that is when threads like this pop up.

If you want to be understood by as many people as possible, the clearest way to say it is MY03 STi Type UK, MY01 STi Jap (often written as JDM (Japanese domestic market)), MY02 STi Euro (European import) etc. As long as you mention the model year and market, everyone should know what you're talking about, and if they don't, it's their fault rather than yours.

You won't, at least not by Mike or me! The STi version VI (or STi6 as it's normally abbreviated) is a real car, and that's the real name Subaru gave it, so nobody'll slag you off for calling an STi6 an STi6. Same goes with the 5, 4, 3, 2 and the original STi.

The problems started when the new age cars came out, and Subaru not only decided to give the "base" turbo car the same name (WRX) across the world, they also introduced STi's in markets other than Japan, and stopped allocating the version numbers in public.

Loads of people naturally tried to carry the numbering on, but three or four separate and incompatible systems sprang up. Hence you get the same cars called by two or three different numbers, and two or three different cars referred to by the same number. Result is a totally unworkable situation where nobody knows WTF anyone else is talking about without asking what model year the car is and where it's from. Hence, it's easier to just get straight to the MY and market...

If you said you've got an MY00 Turbo everyone with their brain screwed in should know you were talking about a UK car, as, sensibly, Subaru gave the classic shaped cars different names in different markets.

The UK market cars were called Turbo 2000 AWD's, the European mainland market cars were called GT AWD's, and the Japanese market cars were called WRX's.

Similarly, if you said you had an STi1-STi6, everyone should know you've got an import as the old shape STi's were only available in Japan.

With a bit of luck the antibiotic for this little virus is already coursing around the system.

chrisp

Except the Mcrae, Cat, Terzo, RB5, 22B TUK and P1

greasemonkey

You're quoting me out of context Chris. I mentioned in the previous paragraph that I was referring to the "base" turbocharged models, not specials.

chrisp

The funny one is the use of V-Limited which everyone gets wrong . The MY00 STI limited version was known as the VI-Limited according to the JDM brochure

chrisp

I know I agree with what you are saying just felt like joining in

chrisp

I get fed up quoting what me car is so it gets shortcut to 2000 RA Limited, which is normally followed by "so whats that then "

virgin

Christ now i know what a JDM is, thats been bugging me for ages !

thanks for all that greasemonkey, i now fully understand !

chrisp

Yep but do you know the difference between a TMIC and FMIC

currymonster

Bangs all their heads together! Oh stop it! Right go and stand in the corner, yes! Go on, you've all been very naughty boys, squabbling so! Tsk


Lol, Cal

chrisp

oh and 22B is an engine reference not 555 in hex (well it is but thats not the reason its called a 22b)

virgin

front mounted intercooler and top mounted intercooler, yes learnt that here on scooby net ! only about a week ago though ! (:

virgin

22b 2.2 litre ?

chrisp

yep 22A was a 2.2 litre normally aspirated engine and the 22B was the turbo charged 2.2 litre engine

virgin

chrisp,mind if i ask a question away from the subject ?

chrisp

sure ask away I have enabled my PM