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19 January 2004, 03:29 PM
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I'm not as I only recently (sept) went from sti7 to sti8. I don't think the DCCD-A or an extra 15PS is worth it as I have 18s and PPP already.
DCCD-A would be nice, but in the real world i.e. on the M4, it's not going to make a blind bit of difference.
That and the fact it'll probably cost me 5k to change!!!
DCCD-A would be nice, but in the real world i.e. on the M4, it's not going to make a blind bit of difference.
That and the fact it'll probably cost me 5k to change!!!
19 January 2004, 04:02 PM
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Matt I'm in the same position. I don;t think DCCD-A will make any difference(except easier for me to spin it) on the road. Tempted to go for a new STI-8 and PPP it later to 320ps
19 January 2004, 04:13 PM
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I Put a deposit down last week. I've had a P1 for 3 years+ and liked the spec of this one compared to what I have. ie. New shape, 6 speed, 320ps, suspension setup. Hopefully this one will turn up quicker than the P1 did! The only thing I don't like is the 4 doors, as the 2 door P1 body is reinforced.
19 January 2004, 04:25 PM
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the new age shell is stiffer than your P1's shell by quite some margin. The downside is it's heavier. Drive a DCCD-A equiped car before dismising the benefits it brings, even if you arent Petter Solbergesk in your driving use/style. One benefit is lower transmition losses = more power at the wheels = faster car, forgetting the other benefits.
19 January 2004, 04:47 PM
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Just what i have noticed when comparing 22B, TypeR/RA's to VC equipped cars like the normal STi's and UK turbo's on rolling road printouts. They seem to have slightly lower transmition losses around 15-20BHP on a 300BHP spec setup. I know its not very scientific but it makes sense to me if you look at how a VC diff transfers power compared to the DCCD design. One uses a jelly to pass the torque, the other uses gears (and when locked a clutch pack) to pass the torque.
[Edited by johnfelstead - 1/19/2004 4:49:19 PM]
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19 January 2004, 05:58 PM
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Neil, John.
Not wishing to turn this into a technical debate but if you wind the diff fully open 65%R 35%F (Not locked 65/35) when you plant you foot doesn't the power go something like 90% Rear, therefore less transmission loss and faster acceleration?
Probably talking out me ar$e but that's what I was lead to believe.
Neil I drove a DCCD-A car before thinking about getting a JDM STi 9 and the difference in handling between my 50/50 bug eye and the DCCD car was stunning. Even leaving a motorway and coming off the rounabout it just feels so much more planted.
Nathan..
Not wishing to turn this into a technical debate but if you wind the diff fully open 65%R 35%F (Not locked 65/35) when you plant you foot doesn't the power go something like 90% Rear, therefore less transmission loss and faster acceleration?
Probably talking out me ar$e but that's what I was lead to believe.
Neil I drove a DCCD-A car before thinking about getting a JDM STi 9 and the difference in handling between my 50/50 bug eye and the DCCD car was stunning. Even leaving a motorway and coming off the rounabout it just feels so much more planted.
Nathan..
19 January 2004, 06:02 PM
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Went to R N Goldens today, he showed me the letter from subaru saying that all the dealers will get at least 3 WR1s, power expected to be 320 ps as it is still in development. He has sold one already and is going to have one as a demo. Considering that he said there is about 122 dealers that doesnt leave alot left, im sure some of the prodrive guys will have one even maybe mr solberg himself.
19 January 2004, 06:32 PM
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Northampton dealer (Westaway Motors) told me they have already sold all of their allocation (3 per dealer I understand) when I mentioned it on Saturday afternoon.
Andy.
[Edited by AndyMoody - 1/19/2004 6:36:02 PM]
Andy.
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19 January 2004, 07:00 PM
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What's the concensus of opinion from delears, or anyone else, on when they will be available?
My dealer said they had 2 allocated, that they were already on a boat and they'd be in the dealers in early March. The announcement on the Subaru webpage says April.
Presumably the normal UK mods like Cat 1 and trackers need to be done after they reach UK. What about engine mods, suspension mods etc, presumably these need to be done by Prodrive after they reach the UK? How long does is all this likely to take?
My dealer said they had 2 allocated, that they were already on a boat and they'd be in the dealers in early March. The announcement on the Subaru webpage says April.
Presumably the normal UK mods like Cat 1 and trackers need to be done after they reach UK. What about engine mods, suspension mods etc, presumably these need to be done by Prodrive after they reach the UK? How long does is all this likely to take?
19 January 2004, 10:06 PM
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we got a few more than three so far we have got 11 allocated to us and our md is pushing for another 4 also the ones we sell may have a little something extra if it comes off!! 
but you'll have to buy one to find out 
[Edited by scoobyboy - 1/19/2004 10:11:52 PM]
but you'll have to buy one to find out [Edited by scoobyboy - 1/19/2004 10:11:52 PM]
20 January 2004, 01:15 AM
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Not wishing to turn this into a technical debate but if you wind the diff fully open 65%R 35%F (Not locked 65/35) when you plant you foot doesn't the power go something like 90% Rear, therefore less transmission loss and faster acceleration?
Probably talking out me ar$e but that's what I was lead to believe.
Probably talking out me ar$e but that's what I was lead to believe.
You can get the car in a state where it drives like a pure RWD car, but that takes a fair bit of effort where you have to get the rears wheels spinning. It's very easy to donut though once you break traction. 
This should give you a good illustration (plus its funny ) DCCD Open illustration. If you havnt managed to break traction then you will get a 65/35 torque split even when at full chat. Incedentally the STi TypeUK isnt 50/50, its 55F/45R. The japanese spec STi fitted with the VC centre diff is 50/50 so its not surprising its a revelation to you handling wise.
20 January 2004, 08:19 AM
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Ah yes the Catalunya video. Saved somewhere in my downloads already
So thats when it's almost a pure RWD. I knew I'd heard it somewhere. Just took it in the wrong context
Looking forward to a DCCD as I prefer a RWD bias.
Cheers
Nathan..
So thats when it's almost a pure RWD. I knew I'd heard it somewhere. Just took it in the wrong context
Looking forward to a DCCD as I prefer a RWD bias.
Cheers
Nathan..
20 January 2004, 09:42 AM
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i have an sti9, and took it out for some fun last night in the wet, it doesnt have dccda, but the handling was excellent in the wet, didnt find anywhere it understeered, just a little oversteer if anything the back end stepped out slightly once or twice but very quickly put itself right, its amaaaaaaazing!!! lol