samb

hi , please can anyone tell me when the sti9 comes out in japan, and is there 2 different jap model 8;s, is this years a revised model. thanks to anyone who helps . hope to have 1 soon as long as there is;nt a new one about to hit the streets. sam

S.B.

MY04 in japan is STi 10

Steve777

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The Sti9 is already out in Japan. Has been for nearly a year. Are you sure you don't mean the Sti10 as the Japs seem to be 1 in front of us

RON

What we know as a 'Spec C' is the Jap STI9!

Steve777

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RON

Not entirely correct. The japs get the choice of a standard Sti9 (i.e electric windows, stereo, DCCD-A, Heavy windows etc) along with the spec c

samb

is the 9 same as the 8 but the facelift model?

Steve777

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No the 9 is the same shape as our 8, but with a different engine, equal length headers, ball bearing turbo DCCD-A etc

samb

steve if i send you a pic of the one i am buying will you tell me , as this is a jap model. i didnt relise they called them a 9 as the add says 8. thanks

Steve777

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Yeah you can do. I think the wheels are slightly different as well, although I'm not sure about that. Are you buying it from an importer. Sure your not buying an EU import ??

RON

Steve,
So if I read it right, what we call the Spec 'C limited' is their STI9, and our Spec 'C' is also their Spec 'C'???

jason4656

we dont have a spec c, its a modified jdm sti8 or 9, wherever it is, thats what it is, whatever you call it, thats what it is, lol confusing lately

[Edited by jason4656 - 1/11/2004 10:35:19 PM]

AJbaseBloke

Actually Japan doesn't refer to them by any numbers at all...

We refer to them by model code and variant, ie: GDBC, GDB being the model, and C being the current variant with twin scroll turbo, equal length headers, DCCD-A etc.

Note that the STi type RA spec C, apart from being lighter, gets revised front end geometry (more caster), and a ball bearing turbo (for even faster spool up ), vs. the sleeve bearing turbo on the std STi.

HTH

samb

thanks ajbasebloke, thats what i needed to know, do you deal in japanese cars, or know of anyone in japan, please mail me, also which model is out next over there is it the jun2.5. thanks again sam

Steve777

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Samb

It looks like a JDM STI9, although a little difficult to tell as there is only a front view. However I can't remeber the JDM version havuing driving lights. I thought it had fog covers although I may be wrong. The engine spec will reveal what it is, due you have it ?

Stuart Page

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ajbasebloke, were you at the Auto Salon show in Chiba last w/e? There was a new STi there with only 4 seats, i.e. recaro rear seats. It still had twin scroll, equal headers etc but sported a rather funky carbon front and rear spoiler. Nice! (It was NOT a 2.5l lumpe either, boo!!)

AJbaseBloke

There are reasons for there not being a 2.5 here in Japan yet, and chief among them are emissions/fuel economy.

Anyway, to the 4 seater - that was a one off. Testing the waters to see how people react to the nifty interior. There may be limited editions boasting such interiors in the future

Back to the 2.5 thang, once you've driven the current JDM 2.0 STi motor, I think you'll see why they keep the best stuff for us But honestly, I am told by those who know that emissions make it unlikely that you'll see the twinscroll from IM... Which makes Iain Litchfield's life easier Of course, you can always whack equal length headers and a twinscroll on your UK car (with an ECU tune of course), although a good ball bearing turbo would give you a seriously fast spooling, fun to drive car IMHO.

Cheers

edit to add: sorry, not a dealer and don't know any...

[Edited by AJbaseBloke - 1/13/2004 9:27:52 AM]

samb

thanks to everyone that helped !!!!! i now have the car, and i must agree with ajbasebloke, compared to the uk spec this car is awesome. it is the gdb c model with twin scroll, and a few nice little exras, !!!!! steve thanks for that, it has got the fog light covers but they dont fit on with the bulb conversion. one last question for all; on this model it has a diff lock and a dccd button, which setting should it be on. thankyou

johnfelstead

start out with it in auto mode, then do some reading up, testing with the manual settings to get a feel for it.

samb

thanks john, my books are in japanese, so no reading up for me, what do you mean by getting a feel for

GarethE

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Would the STi10 be better off called STiX ?

(Yes I use iMacs )_

greasemonkey

Lol, all these people tying themselves up in knots trying to stick to a numbering system that Subaru themselves no longer use...

You're just as guilty of talking b*ll*cks as RON Steve.

Where did you get the idea that the Japanese are "1" in front of us? Their cars run on a parallel development programme, which is why trying to fit the UK cars into the number system established by the JDM cars is an irrelevant, silly and confusing exercise.

Officially speaking there's no such thing as an "STi8", or an "STi9", or an "STi10" either, as AJBB says, and the rest of you who are jabbering away to the contrary are just making it up as you go along.

[Edited by greasemonkey - 1/13/2004 3:16:20 PM]

clarence

Impreza STis are officially just called 'STi' starting with the Bugeye. If u really want to attach a numeral suffix after STi, then the current JDM car is STi'9'.
STi'7' is the original Bugeye, STi'8' includes the first Spec C version, & STi'9' is the current facelifted car. JDM STi'8' can be identified by a reprofiled grill & bonnet. That never made it to any export spec cars.

greasemonkey

Right, let's try and start again...

Subaru don't use this numbering system any more Sam, but unofficially other people have tried to carry it on. Because there's no common consensus among these unofficial sources about what this numbering system actually means, you get the confusion you've seen above. Some folk will tell you that the 2001 and 2002 model year Jap cars were STi7, making the 03 car the 8, while others say (with some justification) that the 2001 car was 7, 2002 was 8, and 2003 was 9, with 2004 being 10. In reality though this is all conjecture, and it's confusing, seeing as you've got to know which "system" the person you're talking to is using.

As stated there's officially no such thing as an STi8, so there isn't a "revised version" of it.

The 2004 model year cars have just hit the streets. If you're considering buying a car, suggest you get away from all this talk of "8" and ask the dealer what model year it is. If it's a 2003 model year car it will have the new face, twin-scroll turbo and equal length headers. If it's a 2002 "STi8", it will be a bugeye, and will have the older style turbo/normal unequal headers.

[Edited by greasemonkey - 1/13/2004 3:37:50 PM]

samb

thanks greasemonkey, the one i now have is manufactured in 03 with the twin scroll ect.... but before i bought it i wanted to make sure there was no new model coming out in japan, i thought it was time to start watching the news more when someone said there was a 9 never mind a 10,

greasemonkey

There is a new model out in Japan, although the differences over and above the MY03 cars seem to be pretty subtle, which obviously wasn't the case when the '03 cars superseded '02.

samb

do you know the differences

Bob Rawle

The thing you really have to be wary of is the resellers market, buyer beware I would say as cars can be confused, since the UK and JDM's have the same body etc and there are JDM's around that don't have the DCCDA, HID's, tints etc (the EL for example) then a careful check is needed, thats one reason why I personally differentiate as I do. At least it makes people think.

The difference between the UK spec and the JDM's is vast, the engine internals are very much improved as is the fuel system in addition to the exhaust and turbo variance.

And MY04 STi UK is not really any different to the MY03.

cheers

bob

Stuart Page

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So what was this STi "GL" that a few peeps were on about??!! I lived in Japan until recently and didn't see it advertised anywhere!! ??

clarence

There is definitely differences between JDM MY01 STi & MY02 STi, & one of them cosmetic (different grill & bonnet). Best Motoring recorded different laps times on either cars in places such as Tsukuba & Fuji.

Steve777

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Well if it makes everyone happy and helps differentiate between models then why not

Greasemonkey always trying to be a bit cleverer than everyone else as usual

Steve