pslewis

This applies in this case to brake pads - BUT, its a general Scooby question.

Just had my service today at Simpsons of Swindon, very good dealer in my opinion. They said that the front brake pads have about 1000miles left in them, at 46,000miles I was sort of expecting them to need replacing sooner or later!

When I asked how much, they said £159 - ouch! I will sort them out later I said, but I asked how much the pads themselves were .. £118 What The FFFFFFF!!!??? Now I KNOW its a performance car and has performance parts but that seemed a bit steep.

However, if thats what they cost - thats what they cost - and I will smile as I hand over my money knowing that they should last another 46,000miles! BUT, to get my bearings - I have just contacted a local Motor Parts shop - standard pads, £25 Inclusive!! Fell off my chair? dead right I did! OK, I said - are they any good? The parts chappie assures me that all brake pads sold these days HAVE to match the OE pads in EVERY way, due to a EU Directive!?

Is this true?

Is Subaru taking the p1ss by charging a mark-up of over 450%?

Why do Subaru think we will pay over-inflated prices?

Any other part that is ridiculously overpriced at main dealers - the floor is open!

Pete

-=Buzz=-

"dealer" says it all really...



[Edited by -=Buzz=- - 11/18/2003 3:56:59 PM]

SiPie

Cigarette lighter unit (not the bit that actually lights your joints) at £75ish if I remember correctly.....

Riftzone

yer bein shafted pete. i paid £100 at a dealer for rear brakes pads to be replaced on a my99. that included parts and fitting...

beamer

My rears were £60.80 plus fitting and vat so I would go elsewhere if I was you

Cheers

Steve

Gridlock Mikey

Servicing in general
MAF sensors
Wheels
Merchandise
Discs

You should have really fecked ya self over and asked how much those tiny little things called rear brake pads cost

Learnt at a very early stage in scoob ownership that almost everything can be bought cheaper without compromising the vehicle from other places. Not heard about brake pads having to be made to at least OE standards before

Mikey

pslewis

I'm talking 4-pot fronts here, NOT the smaller rears!

I haven't agreed to the work - BUT - what really annoys me is that if I source elsewhere then my extended warranty would be voided if anything happened in the brake department, wouldn't it??

Pete

Duck_Pond

They're cheaper if your Scooby has gold wheels.

(I had the front pads replaced on mine and that cost less than £90 inc. fitting.)

NotoriousREV

'kin 'ell, my Mintex pads were only £70 including fitting at a Subaru specialist

pslewis

Duck-pond ..... is that because you let them have a look in your handbag??

Pete

iDLe*

Lewis, if you earn £60 an hour your surely losing money woryying about the cost and posting your BS on here....a man of your calibre would be better off paying this measly sum on the spot allowing you to crack on with your big earning!!



[Edited by Redkop - 11/19/2003 5:27:26 PM]

Duck_Pond

£60 per hour!! Is that what pensioners get these days?

You're confused by the size of my wallet, dear boy... it's the same size as a small handbag, to hold all the money I save on my car's servicing.

S Page

Dont think brake pads and disc's are covered on your warranty as they are wear and tear items, should just be mastercylinder, ABS and servo covered on warranty. Check the small print of your warrnty. Its worth trying different scooby main dealers cause even when they say its the standard subaru charge for things they do differ between themselves. The main dealers are all a ripoff doen't matter who they are, my missus escort needed new front disc's and pads, ford quoted something like £230., brought the parts myself for £35. and did it in an hour.
If it doesnt effect your warranty get your hands dirty and do it yourself.

dosenöffner

PMSL.

You can't polish a turd. Even an old crusty white one.

[Edited by Redkop - 11/19/2003 5:28:39 PM]

pslewis

Well, let me get something straight - I earn £60/hour when I am working, I choose just to do the standard 40 hour week so STILL struggle on £10,400 a month.

My earning power is NOT the question - the price of brake pads IS!!!

I mean, how many Nuclear Weapon Designers walk along YOUR street each night? and how many brake pads drive along it? Its a matter of supply and demand ..... put simply for the muppets - If you can offer a skill that is hard to find YOU dictate the money, if you are a set of brake pads then anyone can buy you from anywhere!!

Its got NOTHING to do with wealth - its all to do with value for money and YOU get value from me through your taxes and I want value through my Subaru dealer!!

Lets be grown up about this now!!

Pete

[Edited by pslewis - 11/18/2003 11:06:26 PM]

pslewis

So? has anyone on here ACTUALLY changed the pads or are you all full of bull??

The dealer said 10minutes a side is all it would take - is it THAT easy?

Pete

greasemonkey

Surely though, like stocks and shares, the market value of nuclear weapons designers goes down as well as up Pete? Seems as though their stock is on the wane in the western world, although I daresay you could find a job somewhere, as long as you don't mind being paid in a currency you've never heard of!

At end of day, £118 a set is the sort of price you'd expect to pay for a serious performance pad, not common or garden OE stuff.

Were you wearing sheepskin when you took the car in perchance? If not, there must have been something about you that suggested you were up for being fleeced.

...Having said that, unless the £25 pads from your local motor factor are a known quality brand, I wouldn't touch them with a bargepole. £25 for four pieces of pigeon poo is not a good exchange. While you don't want to pay over the odds, you still want to be certain you've got a set that won't crumble the first time you have to haul the car up sharpish.

Ten minutes a side is about par for the course if you're in a hurry BTW. It takes a wee bit longer if you do it properly and give everything a good clean and check over while you're there, but either way it's an easy job.

[Edited by greasemonkey - 11/19/2003 12:23:54 AM]

dosenöffner

Yes they are that easy to change.

If you really are a many 'Nuclear Weapon Designer' then surely there is a requirement for you not to disclose that information. Especially in todays climate.

[Edited by dosenöffner - 11/19/2003 9:22:45 AM]

Gridlock Mikey

Just cos they cost £25 doesn't mean that they are "Pigeon Poo". Maybe they are being sold by someone who also thinks that hundreds of pounds for a set of pads is taking the pi55.
Sure, the adage, you gets what you pay for is true with many things but not everything. Take designer clothes for example. £350 for a pair of jeans They still rip, tear, fade etc. With that stuff, you get nothing extra apart from ........ er ................ um ...............ah yes fuel for weak ego's.

Nah! For once Pete is right. The dealer is charging too much for what it is and the longest part of changing brakepads is jacking the car up

Mikey

NotoriousREV

I'm pretty sure my "pigeon poo" rear pads from a local motor factors were Lockheed and the expensive ones I got from a specialist were a make I'd never heard of...

The Gilly

Hang on, so you build nuclear weapons?

Coooooooooooollllllll!

Hanley

If you worked 40 hours a week and earned £60 an hour then wouldn't you be getting £9,600 a month and not £10,400



Don't know how you manage on that

johnfelstead

Dont buy an STi8 then Pete, you will have a heart attack at the prices of OEM pads on that car.

Dream Weaver

Surely a nuclear weapons designer should know how to change brake pads

Or is that a job for the butler?

Graz

Sure the dealer price for a set of brake pads is a bit steep, but not excessively so. All the official dealers are franchised from a single importer who effectively has a monopoly on supply of original parts. If it was your business you'd charge over the odds too

If you don't like it go to an independent and get some uprated pads fitted instead though you may end up voiding you warranty.

However I would never buy a set for £25. This is a 215 bhp sports car we're talking about not a flippin Metro. Do you want to put yours and other peoples lives at risk for the sake of £100? Do you put remoulds on you Scooby cos they're the cheapest tyre you can get, I doubt it!

I seriously doubt that you earn £10k month otherwise you wouldn't even be wasting your valubale time thinking about this. You'd just take it to the dealership and pay the insignificant bill, no questions asked.

Judge

Would not entertain a dealer ever.........it only encourages them.

little'un

iTrader: (9)

Just ordered fronts and rears from Black Diamond along with discs front and rear. £395 the whole lot - including Goodridge stainless braided hoses!
Sod the Subaru dealers - they take the p!ss [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]

RayC

Took me 20 mins per side including jacking up the car and copper easing everything

Now not wanting to fuel a fire BUT

Subaru have investments to pay off, Pete if you are a designer like you say then you will realise its not a simple job of just putting pads into calipers, there is testing and developemnt right down to the angle of the chamfer on the leading edge to reduce squeal and the width and depth of groove to ensure even braking when the pads are new and giving of gases at high temps, fade testing, material analysis and disc wear characteristics, the list is very long, its not a cheap business.

the supplier however, just copies all the hard work

Pay it and then if anything goes wrong milk the warranty, otherwise they may try to get out of something unrelated

iDLe*

Your full of ****.

Scooby96

Nuclear Weapon Designer

- oh P-L-E-A-S-E !!