Madjay

i mean big not like a 2.5 legacy engine i mean like a V8 or something maybe in the back of the car

16vmarc

Y would u want to do this?

bug-eyed wonder

LOL @ madjay!

Stick to the spides from The Met!

RB5SCOTT

I know someone

Madjay

YOOOoOoOoOOOOoooo bugeye do u go to the met? fecking crawling with spides but a nice place all the same

Madjay

16v why not do it. it would be exciting to see the outcome as i believe all the modified scoobys same to go down the same path, time to dare tobe different

greasemonkey

There's a reason why most modified Imprezas go down a similar path - and that's because this path is normally the most cost/weight efficient way to get a power increase out of the car.

Nothing stopping you fitting a wide angle V6/V8 under the bonnet. Problem you'd have is accommodating the transmission given the extra length of the engine.

Rear/mid engine fitting is also possible, although this would be a major engineering job, especially if you're gonna keep it 4WD. Being different is all well and good, but you've got to make it implementable!

[Edited by greasemonkey - 8/20/2003 10:18:19 PM]

Madjay

it would be class. just to see. as prices of scoobys are falling it wouldnt be hard to pick up a classic on the cheap to do it with, its just what sort of engine would ya use for it? having the equipement and technical skills urself would also be handy rather than paying others

pugoetru

ther is not much room as the gearbox sits very far forward svx engine would be about only sensible option

im puting all the scoob running gear in a peugeot 505 estate does that count

Leslie

There was a bloke who put a Chrysler V8 in the back of a mini for special saloon car racing. Went like a rocket down the straights, but changing direction was a problem!

Les

Scoobybits

off subject slightly but did anyone else see that mk1 golf at santa pod,usc.. impreza turbo powered..mental..
only point of fitting a v8 in a scoob etc would possibly make an impreza worse on fuel??!!!!
got offered a year2001 legacy 3.0 engine the other day if anyone fancies trying that as a conversion??

harvey

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Pat Hebron is in the process of fitting a 3 litre six cylinder I think. He is not speaking to me so I do not know the details.
Completely separately, along with a friend, I am looking at fitting a flat six which is fully built and has been offered to me from a friend in Canada complete with auto box.
It may be that the effort is not worth the trouble in the Impreza and the way to go is with a Legacy stripped out as a track/drag/road special. The great attraction is the huge torque available even at relatively low boost.

DanTheMan

Jasemac, thats my old scooby....
The boys cut the floorpan and running gear out of the scoob and welded the lot into the golf (after shortening it a few inches).
Its loads lighter than the scoob, and apart from the scoop & scoob alloys you would never know
ran some nice times at the pod too considering its the 240BHP variant and still mainly standard.

Turboteeth

I've put another WRX engine in the boot of mine. It makes it slower though

siwrx

Heard about Pats engine, going to be insane, should be the quickest scooby out there from what ive heard.

dunno whats secret though, so not sayin anymore

Ian P.

abot 4 weeks ago, saw early 95 ish wrx outside Hayward & scott with flat six engine fitted! Interested to know more H & S!

200+Bhp

wHAT ?

scoobyexhausts

That was Pat's car

David_Wallis

Hope he doesnt mind but..

Pat has a std ish engine in there at the moment.. he is sorting intercooler and rads at the moment, wth something like 4psi it is more power than a std impreza..

He has had custom headers and downpipes made for some nice Garrett Hybrid Turbos..

Ill mail him a link.. there were some specs on 22b..

I belive pat said Phase 2 should snap driveshafts at the touch of a pedal and he did mention 1000bhp..

Pat was doing it for himself though so wasnt in a hurry to rush it..

David

pat

Harvey,

I don't recall having decided not to speak to you, it was more a case of not speaking to anyone because I was away, first helping with Project Wallis and then helping John Felstead...

All,

there are no real secrets with Phase I, it's an SVX EG33D engine, which should have 3318cc displacement, run about 10:1 compression and make 240PS / 31.5kgm (229lb/ft) normally aspirated with all the emission control stuff in place. Should see and easy 240-250 BHP at atmospheric with all that stuff gone and decent induction / exhaust.

It will be fitted with a pair of Garrett GT25 hybrid ball bearing turbos and I'll crank the boost up slowly until either the engine doesn't want to take any more (you can normally "feel" it as the tolerable ignition advance falls away rapidly) or I reach 8PSI, whichever happens first. That should increase the power to about 380 BHP and the torque to 350 lb/ft, but it's important to remember that even before it comes on boost it is already making more power and torque than a UK Turbo 2000 or New Age WRX ever does (out of the box).

Phase II will be a little bit special, and I'm not giving away any technical info on that, but just as a teaser at half of its rated boost it would destroy a standard gearbox the first time I floor it

Cheers,

Pat.

harvey

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Thanks for that Pat. Very interesting.
I am still waiting for you to tell me and the wider audience why you believe I have "high" oil consumption which is 1 litre/1000mls approx which I do not find unacceptable considering the performance.I believe this is a consequence of Cosworth pistons but you have some alternative view.
Interested in your thoughts.

jameswrx

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I used to do a litre of oil a week in my 2wd cossie, proper oil consumption

Trout

iTrader: (1)

A litre every 1000 miles does seem high. Even after 60,000 miles in my very abused STi engine it might use a litre every 3-4,000 miles.

David Ws car is built for very high performance and so far has not been using any oil - although it is still early days.

However - according to my owners manual - my BMW 330 coupe which is far from being a highly tuned, highly strung engine, has a litre every 1000 miles as being within normal tolerance

It uses more oil than my Scoob!!!

I look forward to any sensible explainations for differing oil usage as I am by no means a technical expert.

Rannoch

johnfelstead

and what a huge help Pat was. Thanks to all the hard work from Pat, myself and the guys at Prosport my scoob is back on the road, now to run it in.

john banks

Pat, could you use EJ22 pistons in the 3.3?

Is there a ready supply of engines?

pat

John,

Given that the EG33 has the same bore and stroke, it stands to reason that EJ22 pistons would fit

There is a shortage of EG33 engines, because only 25000 were ever made.

Cheers,

Pat.

pat

Harvey,

would suggest that the oil consumption may be related to the current cylinder finish. Taking another thou out of the liner with a 240 grit stone and then about 6 passes with a flexihone, will achieve a good plateau honed finish and may solve the oil consumption issue. It's important to achieve the correct RV/RP/RK, also the angle of the honing marks can have a significant effect on oil consumption.

Cheers,

Pat.

Kane

One of the US scoobies is an RS - this is a 2.5ltr....have a search for it on yahoo or google...

MattN

drop an evo engine in it, would fly then

*Sonic*

Well this certainly aint a scoob engine