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Old 12 August 2003, 04:03 PM
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Was thinking of getting myself a nice low mileage P1, but test drove an STI 8 for comparisson on Saturday and now I'm not so sure. The P1's I've driven are faster but don't handle as well as the standard 8. Also, now that the 03 cars have lost the bug eyes and gained a decent rear spoiler they look almost as as good as the P1.

I also find it hard to justify £18-19k for a 2-3 year old car when compared to £23,400 (UK dealer negotiated) for a brand new car with more kit and beeter safety.

I'm not sure what to do now. I really like P1's but are they overpriced?

Old 12 August 2003, 04:16 PM
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You won't be saying that next year when the STI8 is worth less than the P1, least the P1's have taken their hit already.
Old 12 August 2003, 04:20 PM
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I have seen an add in Autocar as follows :

02 51 plate black Sti 10,000 miles £13,995 OMG
Old 12 August 2003, 04:20 PM
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Just sold my 5 month old STI8 with PPP (they are awful without it IMHO) for £21k (so that was £6k in 5 months)
If you feel the STI8 is the better car then go for it, but don't consider value for money when looking at any brand new car.
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Old 12 August 2003, 04:22 PM
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according to some on here there are P1s around for 12k so i suggest you get one of these cheap P1s and not the obviously overpriced ones at 18/19k
Old 12 August 2003, 05:12 PM
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Hi I suggest you look at my post in for sale as i am selling my black prodrive sti8 for around £25K which boasts many extras including 18" OZ alloys.
Old 12 August 2003, 06:13 PM
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P1 any day....just look at the pic, it does it for me I've test drove the new STi model and I know what you mean. Its more updated and tbh, I was thinking of changing aswell. But after getting back into the P1, I know what car I'd rather have.

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Old 12 August 2003, 06:27 PM
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p1 p1 p1 p1 p1 p1 p1 get the picture
Old 12 August 2003, 06:32 PM
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On friving, having had a P1 for just under 3 years with full Decat and now an STI8 with PPP, i now prefer the STI8. Just better all round car and handles much better than the P1.

On the value, depends how long you will keep it. When I got my P1 there were lots of people selling after 6 - 12 months and they lost a lot, well I was very pleased with I got got for mine in June and it gave a me a decent check towards the STi8.

So if you intend to keep it fo 1 year get a P1 if 2 years + an sti8.

Both are excellent cars.
Old 12 August 2003, 06:32 PM
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try and find a pristine low mileage example of a P1..............No chance.........I've been looking
Old 13 August 2003, 09:16 AM
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P1 but I would say that 2 weeks into ownership

on 17s mine doesn't oversteer, very neutral but may have been tweaked in a past life

heres the pic scoobykev was trying to get up ...



doh, damn fotopic is overloaded!

[Edited by SHAGGYDOG - 8/13/2003 9:17:54 AM]
Old 13 August 2003, 09:53 AM
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I think I've made my mind up. It's going to be an STI8 in rally blue. 4 doors, decent brakes and cheaper insurance have swung it for me. I'll probably go for the PPP so that I can keep up with you P1 owners. Hopefully I can find a UK dealer who can give me a sub £25k price with PPP included.

Old 13 August 2003, 09:55 AM
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Mines a Sti8 PPP and i got totally Pi55ed on by a P1 on the straights!!!!

P1 !!! had 1 and i miss it.

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Old 13 August 2003, 01:35 PM
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Wrx wannabe the o2 sti that u mention is sure 2 be an import and a very cheap one at that! I think u'd be hard pushed to find a uk sti under 17500 private and 19500 trade!
Old 13 August 2003, 01:37 PM
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Infact i havent seen a uk o2 sti7 under 18500!
Old 13 August 2003, 04:41 PM
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TON3

yes that;s what i have been told also

still DAMM cheap though
Old 13 August 2003, 05:04 PM
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can't understand how can the p1 be faster than a sti8 ppp it has less torque and bhp and is a bigger car ?

get yourself a 22b or evo 6,7,8 or spec 'c'
Old 13 August 2003, 06:29 PM
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p1 a bigger car than an sti8! I dont think so some how
Old 13 August 2003, 07:01 PM
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I was pretty underwhelmed by the STI 8 compared to the P1.
Old 13 August 2003, 07:03 PM
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P1 bigger than the STi....hehehehe don't be silly
Old 13 August 2003, 08:10 PM
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ahh yes that weighty tank, a P1 lol :P
Old 14 August 2003, 01:01 PM
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alright maybe wrong about the size and weight but i was speaking to the techician at my subaru dealer who drives a P1 he confirmed that the sti 8 with ppp pack is faster than the p1 the fastest is the spec c followed by the 22b

Sorry p1 boys but your cars had it's day.
Old 14 August 2003, 06:42 PM
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Well then the lad whose P1 thrashed mine must have had his tuned cause it left me standing and i'm not one that gives up on any road, if a fellow scoob is willing!!!

Ady
Old 14 August 2003, 06:48 PM
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Jimbo, you're quality


Old 14 August 2003, 06:50 PM
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maybe,you wrong about that too. "P1 has had its day", PMSL
Old 14 August 2003, 08:59 PM
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gordo what these guys don't know is that jimbo is running a highly tuned sti 8 there know at trax though when their cars shake when it comes past their p1. remember he started with 300bhp
Old 15 August 2003, 08:33 AM
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Right, I've got a new tactic - if we all slag off the P1 on this BBS then its price will come right down so I can afford one again

Old 15 August 2003, 09:10 AM
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Q: How do you make an STI8 look even more like a tub of lard?

A: Lower it.

You probably wizz past P1's because they are laughing so much at the fastest moving bus in the country.
Old 15 August 2003, 09:34 AM
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There is a new kid on the block and its called the Spec C
Better than all the above, better engine, chassis, lightweight and only 28k new
The only down side is that its a JDM car (so when is the P2 coming out then? )

Tony
Old 15 August 2003, 11:39 AM
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tony spec 'c' all the way thinking of selling the sti8, maybe for this or evo 8, just so i can get away from these stupid arguements


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