prodriva

I really, really, really want one of these but there appears to be less and less of them for sale the closer I get to being in a position to buy one. If anyone has just bought one, how much did you pay? If you are selling one how much are you asking? If anyone out there lives near Crowthorne/Bracknell and has one for sale please let me know. I'm fed up travelling for miles only to find complete sheds so would ideally like to find a nice one local to me. I would like one with no more than 40,000 miles on the clock with FSSH and nice and straight (read no previous accidents - repaired or otherwise). I know i'm asking a lot but when I'm spending what I consider to be a significant amount of mone on a car, I want to get a nice one. I'm sure you know what I mean.

I know I should probably put this in the WANTED section but my questions are a bit more varied than just I want, so MODERATORS please do not move this read. Thanks in advance.

Sorry for rambling but I've opened a rather nice bottle of red which I like very much

TonyBurns

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1999 SUBARU IMPREZA RB5, 1999, T
reg. 33000 miles, FSSH, full MOT, all usual RB5 extras, Cat 1 alarm/immobilizer, immaculate condition inside and out, Ltd Edition, 306 of 444, no canvassers. £13,750 . ovno. (Chesterfield).


Tel: (01246) 813117 or (07889) 090979

Distance: 38 miles
Price: £13,750 ovno.


There is another one of these (a wr version for just under 14k).

So really this is the sort of price you should be looking at (there is one at well lane with 30k on the clock but at 15k i think its a little too much).

Tony

PS the wr version i saw had 44k on the clock

TurboKitty

Might be selling mine and I live in Bracknell.

It's an original WRSport, 2 owners, FSSH, done just under 43k. Warranty and MOT until mid June next year, taxed til May '04, RAC Trackstar, private car-related 'plate. Bumpsteer mod. It had new F1s on at Easter, (and has only done about 2.5k since). Next service, (60k miles), due 10th December. Cambelt done at 45k service last December.

It's not been crashed, but the rear bumper has been replaced after I badly scuffed it by backing it into another car on a car park.

rb5 286

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have a look at the RB5 forum as there are a few for sale there.

also any questions u might wana know other RB5 owners can help u with

prodriva

Thanks for all your responses.

Turbokitty, when you decide to sell please let me know as yours sounds rather nice. I wasnt really banking on a WRSport so have'nt really looked into this one with regard to insurance. I got a quote on a MY2000 UK Turbo, Fully Comp for £680 about 2 months ago and was confirmed that an RB5 would not make a difference. Any idea what difference the the WRSport would make???

Treacle

There's also an RB5 owners web site . I can't remember the address, just search from google or some other engine. They'll have cars for sale but also loads of info etc.
Treacle

JimmyRB5PRO

My RB5 for sale currently .....http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/detail.asp?i=10995&sc=84GC&s=179

TurboKitty

prodriva, my insurance company do not distinguish between the standard RB5 and the WRSport - both are group 17.

Even though the WRSport has the PPP, (and, therefore, more power), my insurance company count it as unmodded as it was an option package specified when the car was new.

Your insurance company may be different, so best to check.

I was planning to keep the car for a couple more months, (having just paid out a shedload for a service, MOT, tax, warranty, tracker, etc), but I'd consider selling it now. Drop me a mail if you want more information, or if you want to see it.

TonyBurns

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Turbokitty,
The RB5 is classed as a grp 18, this is why they didnt distinguish between the WR and Non WR models as the PPP puts the car up into a higher group (just for info )

Tony

TurboKitty

Nope, my WR is in group 17, the same as a standard RB5, as confirmed by my insurance company.

The insurance group information from Parker's Price Guide also seems to agree with this:

Derivative Year/Model Insurance Group
2.0 GL 4WD 4dr Auto Saloon Impreza (1993-00) 13
2.0 GL 4WD 4dr Saloon Impreza (1993-00) 13
2.0 GL 4WD 5dr Auto Estate Impreza (1993-00) 13
2.0 GL 4WD 5dr Estate Impreza (1993-00) 13
2.0 Sport 4WD 4dr Auto Saloon Impreza (1993-00) 13
2.0 Sport 4WD 4dr Saloon Impreza (1993-00) 13
2.0 Sport 4WD 5dr Auto Estate Impreza (1993-00) 13
2.0 Sport 4WD 5dr Estate Impreza (1993-00) 13
2.0 Sports Special 4dr Saloon Impreza (1993-00) 13
Impreza 2.0 Turbo Catalunya 4WD 4d Saloon Impreza (1993-00) 17
Impreza RB5 Prodrive Turbo 4WD 4d Saloon Impreza (1993-00) 17
Impreza RB5 Turbo 4WD 4d Saloon Impreza (1993-00) 17
Impreza Series McRae Turbo 4WD 4d Saloon Impreza (1993-00) 17
Impreza Turbo 2000 Terzo 4WD 4d Saloon Impreza (1993-00) 17
P1 4WD 2dr Saloon Impreza (1993-00) 20
Turbo 2000 4WD 4dr [SR] Saloon Impreza (1993-00) 17
Turbo 2000 4WD 4dr Saloon Impreza (1993-00) 17
Turbo 2000 4WD 5dr [SR] Estate Impreza (1993-00) 17
Turbo 2000 4WD 5dr Estate Impreza (1993-00) 17

As I said, other insurance companies may differ in their approach, which was why I advised prodriva to check.

[Edited by TurboKitty - 7/25/2003 10:16:47 AM]

TonyBurns

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Kitty,
I have an MY00 PPP'd car and my insurance went up to group 18 (with every insurance co i used btw), now my car is the same price as an RB5, std and wr versions, a standard version of mine is less than an RB5 and one group below.
The parkers guide is incorrect also, stating that the car is 1993-2000, this was a limited edition and therefore isnt included in that bracket (ltd edn's are normally a group higher due to the 20% more in value and parts used).
Hope that helps

Tony

RB5320

probably varies depending on the ins co. Mine (Greenlight) charged me a bit extra for the PPP, treating it as a 10% performance increase.
Oh by the way - Prodriva YHM

Steve

TurboKitty

Tony, as the RB5 was a 1999 edition, it does fit into the 93-00 grouping that Parker's use to distinguish Classics from New Age (00-on) Imprezas. They are in no way trying to say that the RB5 was available for all of those years.

The insurance companies you have used obviously differ from mine. Whatever you are paying, or have paid, for any of your cars, my insurance company have confirmed that there would be no difference in price if I had a standard RB5 and that both are in group 17. That's why I got the WRSport instead of a standard RB5 in the first place. That this is not a situation unique to my insurer seems, to me, to be confirmed by the data from Parker's.

Now, if you'd like to patronise me some more, please don't bother.

Out of interest, any other RB5 owners care to comment on this?

[Edited by TurboKitty - 7/25/2003 12:03:02 PM]

RB5320

TK - see above . Out of interest, which insurance co are you with?

Steve

TurboKitty

The cheapest one I could find, (I had no NCD when I first insured the Scoob), which turned out to be the one for wimmin, (Diamond).

Trust me, I was amazed that they would count the standard car and the WR in the same catagory; so much so that I made them confirm it to me in writing in case of debate should I be involved in any mishap. I have the letter somewhere - I'll try and dig it out tonight.

TonyBurns

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Turbokitty,
I am NOT patronising you, but what i am stating is that the insurance group for this car is 18, the biggest reason being is that its MORE valuable than a standard uk car, due to some minor facts like it has an STi5 shell, 17 inch alloys etc, the PPP does upgrade the group to 18, this is also a reason why both do not cost any more than eachother.
I looked into a few cars when purchasing my scoob back in 2000, even then the RB5 was classed as a group 18, my car was cheaper to insure than either of the above, and unless they have changed the insurance group, then this is the reason they are slightly more expensive to cover (plus the fact they were pretty much 26k brand new for the WR version).
There was actually something on the net that proved the RB5 was a group 18 car, and please dont take the parkers guide as a bible, it is as stated, only a guide.

Tony

petersen

ProdriveA,

Pete Croney from Scoobysport 01268 590085 knows a local guy near Basildon in Essex (about 45 mins from you) who is selling his RB5 and has just been let down by a supposedly committed cash buyer.

Give Pete a call and I am sure he will contact the guy for you.

Regards,

Stuart

[Edited by petersen - 7/25/2003 11:06:09 AM]

TurboKitty

Edited because it's not worth it.

Prodriva - if you're interested in seeing the car, mail me.

[Edited by TurboKitty - 7/25/2003 11:18:42 AM]

TonyBurns

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Please check out the official site for this info, which is www.abi.org.uk/carinsurance/default.asp
I got the mcrae wrong though, thats actually a grp 20

Tony

[Edited by TonyBurns - 7/25/2003 2:04:38 PM]

TurboKitty

But note the site says:

"Please note that insurance group ratings are purely advisory. They are used by insurers (ABI members and Lloyd’s syndicates) as one of the factors in calculating premiums. Insurers are not required to follow the advisory group ratings and they may depart from them if they so wish."


I'm bored so I just called Diamond to double check. The insurance group of a car varies from insurer to insurer. Diamond rate all unmodded RB5s, whether standard or WRSport, as category 32 which equates to group 16/17.

So, once again, your insurer may rate an RB5 as group 18, but mine does not.



(Fantastic, just typed this and now SN is closed...)

[Edited by TurboKitty - 7/25/2003 2:36:11 PM]

TonyBurns

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Yep i noticed that, but as these are abi and the insurance gods i was correct with the rating they gave originally, i would also presume that dependent on postcode area (crime rate etc) that this group would change slightly (as it still costs as much to repair no matter where it is) but also they would have to take into consideration the driver and the ammount of accidents (which would also change the ammount your going to pay) which would either add/decrease your premium.
So at the end of the day, your right about what your insurance co says, im right about the rating the ABI gave as its point of reference.
Fair one

Tony

[Edited by TonyBurns - 7/25/2003 2:48:48 PM]

chrisp

After seeing my premium I am sure they go higher than 20. I was told by one insurnace company there is a 20+ special grouping especially for my RA . I would settle for group 18 and save myself 40% .

crowtherg

Motor insurers these days have their own grouping systems.

I could find you a Lloyds Syndicate that regard it as a Group 10, of 10.

A composite insurer that regards it as many have said Group 17, and composites/direct line types that regard it as a group 38.

At the end of the day, you pay what you pay. Some insurers will load for limited editions RB5 Terzo etc some won't. Some will load for PPP some won't.

Its like buying baled beans, some shops charge more tha others.

Geoff RB5 WR Sport



[Edited by crowtherg - 7/25/2003 5:07:36 PM]