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Old 16 July 2003, 08:35 AM
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Just read a post on a thread where Submannz (who's from New Zeland)has hinged his number plate from the bumper.
Now when moving the wind makes it disappear up out of sight but when stopped / going slow it obviously reappears.
What would the legal position on such a set up in the UK ?
Old 16 July 2003, 08:44 AM
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Now that is the best
Old 16 July 2003, 08:47 AM
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Cool

Cool !!!

Might have to try that too !!

Not sure it's legal though ??
Old 16 July 2003, 09:04 AM
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Seems to be an new item from Japan (those lucky guys in nz get all the goo stuff), featured on the Taka Kaira website.

At speeds 80 km/h or more the number plate folds up and comes back forward when slowing down
Old 16 July 2003, 09:17 AM
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I believe bikers have been doing this for years on their rear plate. As the speed increases the plate ends up horizontal & cannot be read by passing gatso's etc.
Old 16 July 2003, 09:32 AM
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They are illegal in the UK, plates have to be fixed to the vehicle and none moving, but its a lovely thought..............
Old 16 July 2003, 09:58 AM
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A well known national rally driver (name withheld to protect the innocent ) has one on his Impreza WRC. It looks very trick as it is an undersized plate as well!

I guess it also serves a purpose though by allowing more airflow onto the intercooler/rad?

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Old 16 July 2003, 10:09 AM
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Dont gatsos get you from the back - how is this any use?

The bets idea is a rotating numberplate like james bond - with a switch on the dash.
Old 16 July 2003, 10:12 AM
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The first idea is surely to let more air in if you have a FMIC or even more air to the radiator....
Old 16 July 2003, 10:58 AM
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I've been thinking of adapting the technology used in Arc-welding visors.

You know, the fancy solar powered ones that tint instantly when you strike a weld. If you could get them to be sensitive to the flash on a Gatso it could be used to blank out your plate when a photo is taken
Old 16 July 2003, 11:00 AM
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its already been done £250 and its yours
Old 16 July 2003, 11:15 AM
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The rotating number plate has already been done too.

A friend worked for the company who patented it and popped around to mine one day with one on his car.

The designer/inventor came up with at least 2 instant successes and is now a wealthy chap, so it never was put into production although there are still a few prototypes around.
Old 16 July 2003, 11:21 AM
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Nice one Richard!

Where from?
Old 16 July 2003, 11:58 AM
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Cant remember the companies name but I saw them at Autosport in 2002 and last years bike show
Old 16 July 2003, 12:12 PM
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Sounds like a good idea.

Doubt it is legal over here
Old 16 July 2003, 12:20 PM
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Number plates must be fitted in a vertical plane at all times and must be clearly visible when stand in front or behind the car,thats the legal bit but it sounds quite ingenious
Old 16 July 2003, 12:25 PM
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Yep, seen them here:
http://www.takakaira.com/asp/template.asp?cat=3&id=238&prodID=JKkGhHhceDfbiEd

HOWEVER, wont work for the back will it, which is where you really need it.
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I was thinking more of the camera vans that park up and zap you from the front, rather than fixed Gatso's.
Old 16 July 2003, 01:20 PM
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I've got a Ducati 998s sat here in front of my desk with a flip rear plate.. runs off a switch on the bars.. press it and the plate, which is hinged in the middle folds in half

Legal to have on the bike - illegal to use
Old 16 July 2003, 02:33 PM
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Legal to have? Not sure about that.

I was talking to a copper a while back who was gleefully telling me about a Blade he'd had impounded, and the owner charged with "attempting to pervert the course of justice" for just having a flip-up number plate fitted to the bike.

Might have been obblocks, I guess, but that's what he claimed.
Old 16 July 2003, 02:43 PM
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They're marketted as "not for road use" so if your not flipping it up on the road then surely you're not breaking the terms of sale?
Old 16 July 2003, 04:19 PM
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Anyone remember Mark I Mini's and older Taxi's (Black London Cabs).

The boot lid was hinged at the bottom with a couple of cables to hold the boot when it came down. This allowed you to load long/large luggage drive with the boot open.

Number plates were on the boot lid and hinged from the top, so as the boot came down to the horizontal position, the number plate also hinged to a vertical position.

So for older cars it is "allowed", but the plate can still be seen in a vertical plane. Not sure if that helps - but there you are.
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