Are saloons worth more than wagons?
15 July 2003, 06:43 PM
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I'm on about scooby turbos, not stuff out of old westerns!
On the 2nd hand market which fetch more? I get the impression saloons are more sought after, though most people I speak to prefer the looks of the saloon, and the practicality. As well as the fact performance/handling is almost exactly the same.
On the 2nd hand market which fetch more? I get the impression saloons are more sought after, though most people I speak to prefer the looks of the saloon, and the practicality. As well as the fact performance/handling is almost exactly the same.
15 July 2003, 06:48 PM
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Well these prices come straight from Glass's Guide:-
4dr Turbo 98 (R) 55,000 miles, trade £7000, retail £8825
5dr Turbo 98 (R) 55,000 miles, trade £6975, retail £8800
According to the trade a MASSIVE £25 more for the 4dr but in reality i would have said a 4dr (being more sought after) would be worth £250 - £500 more, based on standard spec.
4dr Turbo 98 (R) 55,000 miles, trade £7000, retail £8825
5dr Turbo 98 (R) 55,000 miles, trade £6975, retail £8800
According to the trade a MASSIVE £25 more for the 4dr but in reality i would have said a 4dr (being more sought after) would be worth £250 - £500 more, based on standard spec.
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15 July 2003, 11:14 PM
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Ive got two wagons!!! trying to get a fleet going (not really! i import them i find they drive better and feel a lot stiffer under heavy cornering looks a little bit better IMHO but saloons tend to sell quicker....I sold last Ra at 7.45 on a thurs morning!! Bloody auto trader trainspotters beware subaru buyers are catching you up!
15 July 2003, 11:28 PM
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There was a time the saloons were worth more - not anymore, the discrete look is in ................ big spoilers and the 'driven through Halfords with a platic magnet look' has gone!!
The Wagon handles better, is faster and looks smarter - its for the man with a brain .......... saloons are for the sheep, Bahhhhh!!
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The Wagon handles better, is faster and looks smarter - its for the man with a brain .......... saloons are for the sheep, Bahhhhh!!
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16 July 2003, 06:42 AM
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Wanted to buy a wagon, but they were at a massive [10% or so] premium used here, so went for the 4dr instead. IMHO wagons look better and a little more sheep in wolfs togs.
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16 July 2003, 09:19 AM
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Saloons did seem to command a better price a few months ago, and seem easier to sell privately.
Now I'm not sure, wagons seem to be gaining in popularity as everyone assumes they're slower than the saloon. Which is a good way of surprising people
Now I'm not sure, wagons seem to be gaining in popularity as everyone assumes they're slower than the saloon. Which is a good way of surprising people
16 July 2003, 09:27 AM
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Try to find a good wagon on the used market is pretty hard, A friend was looking for a late classic / early bug eye, and couldnt find one in good condition / low mileage.
If they a scarce and sought after, cant really see why they would be worth much less than a same spec saloon, but I suppose the wagon did cost more to start with, so overall depriciation is more.
If they a scarce and sought after, cant really see why they would be worth much less than a same spec saloon, but I suppose the wagon did cost more to start with, so overall depriciation is more.
16 July 2003, 09:54 AM
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For extrovertmobile go for bewinged saloon.
But as age and sense (and in my case multiple kids) creeps up on us thoroughly recommend the understated wagon approach.
Less obvious to Old Bill and to non-petrol heads and can fit in kids, dog, wife, kite-surfer, kitchen sink etc
Add PPP or similar (but NOT big wings) and you have one of the best value Q cars available today. As this catches on, value of wagon will improve as there is undoubtledly less of them around when I searched before buying new.
But as age and sense (and in my case multiple kids) creeps up on us thoroughly recommend the understated wagon approach.
Less obvious to Old Bill and to non-petrol heads and can fit in kids, dog, wife, kite-surfer, kitchen sink etc
Add PPP or similar (but NOT big wings) and you have one of the best value Q cars available today. As this catches on, value of wagon will improve as there is undoubtledly less of them around when I searched before buying new.
16 July 2003, 10:16 AM
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that's what I used to think before I trod the PPP path.
and pink logo's/gold wheels clash with the Q car theory!
Having said that - the blistered WRX 03 saloon arches/wider tracking would be good on Wagon: anyone know why they omitted this? Perhaps had a stack of wagon bodyshells to get through.
and pink logo's/gold wheels clash with the Q car theory!
Having said that - the blistered WRX 03 saloon arches/wider tracking would be good on Wagon: anyone know why they omitted this? Perhaps had a stack of wagon bodyshells to get through.
16 July 2003, 12:19 PM
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Wagons are the $hit people!
Course I'm biased though.
As for the claims that it handles better - I don't think that's a valid point at all...unless the "extra weight" of the rear cabin area puts more downforce on the rear wheels. Remember the wagon is virtually the same length as the 4dr version.
(and it's still a bit shorter than a 94 Honda Civic sedan)
That's why all the door panels are transferable!
Put it this way though. What vehicle can transport a dog and a fridge, and still pull the rubber off most other cars?
Not many I'd bet!
Course I'm biased though.
As for the claims that it handles better - I don't think that's a valid point at all...unless the "extra weight" of the rear cabin area puts more downforce on the rear wheels. Remember the wagon is virtually the same length as the 4dr version.
(and it's still a bit shorter than a 94 Honda Civic sedan)
That's why all the door panels are transferable!
Put it this way though. What vehicle can transport a dog and a fridge, and still pull the rubber off most other cars?
Not many I'd bet!
16 July 2003, 12:37 PM
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I need an auto, and certainly in my time looking Wagons are more popular in auto than manual. MRS don't like 'em though says saloon is a 'proper scoob', but what would she know !!! what was that,o sorry dear only joki.................................
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16 July 2003, 12:52 PM
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looking for import turbo auto, no major hurry, just looking out, not many auto saloons about, quite a few wagons mind.
16 July 2003, 01:09 PM
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Most posts on here are stating that wagons are more expensive than saloons.
That certainly didn't seem to be the case when I was looking a few months ago.
I'm sure I saw a few sti wagons around the MY96 for approx 5K to 6K. To get a sallon sti for that price you'll be doing well. Obviously quality could not be compared physically but first impressions were as stated above.
Just thought I would put in my tuppence worth.
That certainly didn't seem to be the case when I was looking a few months ago.
I'm sure I saw a few sti wagons around the MY96 for approx 5K to 6K. To get a sallon sti for that price you'll be doing well. Obviously quality could not be compared physically but first impressions were as stated above.
Just thought I would put in my tuppence worth.
16 July 2003, 01:18 PM
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STI wagons are exactly the same spec as 4 dorrs, so wy not have the same performance with the bonus of practicability, understated and less desirable to the tea leaves!
I shocked a 328 by going past him a v high speed, 4 up with a boot full of luggage and roof bars double stacked with 4 wake boards, try that in your 2 dr!
I shocked a 328 by going past him a v high speed, 4 up with a boot full of luggage and roof bars double stacked with 4 wake boards, try that in your 2 dr!