rickydiver

My mate has a fiat coupe turbo (airbox & high flow exhaust, rest standard) which he reckons would leave my 99 turbo (standard) standing. Before the inevitable happens will he give me a fright ? He has conceded that it is no match on the twisties
Ricky

juan

hit the search button and type in fiat coupe and sort the dates out - there are lots of threads mulling this sort of thing over

LG John

In a straight line race he will maul you unless you are happy to launch of the line. From a rolling start and in particular the 60-100mph incriment the fiat is quicker. There have been lots of threads on this so have a search through them

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Boro

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http://www.scoobynet.co.uk/bbs/thread.asp?ThreadID=79629

whiteyisback

i had a 20v turbo coupe b4 my new wrx......and yes the coupe is a bit quicker...well felt it in a straight line anyway.

Boro

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Fiat Coupe 20v Turbo: 0-60 6.4secs 155mph top end

fitzscoob

had my *** handed to me by one of these a little while ago im running a 99 uk turbo, standard.

they are fast in a straight line.

Boro

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Ill remember that if i ever have the misfortune of seeing one.

Sith

MY96 with Scooby sport full system with Panel filter was not alot faster in a straight line than a standard 20v Turbo. Or appeared to be standard anyway.

He seemed supprised when he had to move out of my way.

rickydiver

Sounds like I had better give it a miss then ! or at least wait until it is raining

Dan B

Just get an imported STI

catalunya199

my brother has one but wont go against me the puff ive been in his and they are fast but didnt feel as hard when pulling away

CTRnutter

STI-8 PPP gives it a slap, have first hand experience although they are lovely cars very good looking indeed,

DaveR

I don't understand!!

Someone up above said they do 0-60 in 6.4s
Most scoobies will do 5.9s or less according to the literature

where is the contest in a straight line? why do you reckon the Fiat would be quicker?

juan

40-100 fiat will be quick - just a bit tardy off the line compared to 4WD.
oh and it just gets quicker and quicker from 100 onwards - not that I'd know

Came up behind a new STI on the M1 the other week.

Was hoping he was gonna take Jn 29 along with me so we could dance together (uni-chipped 20vt) - unfortunately he went straight on though.

[Edited by juan - 7/14/2003 5:28:08 PM]

LG John

Scooby 0-60 in 5.3s and 100 in 14.9s giving 9.6 from 60-100mph

Fiat 0-60 in 6.4s and 100 in 14.5 giving 8.1 from 60-100mph

I think its clear from these statistics that even a classic shaped UK impreza is toast without its launch to rely on If you ain't at lights then you're in bother

CTRnutter

trust me the STI-8 PPP wins not a problem at all but still a lovely car, until you have to change the cam belt

matt.bowey

One left me behind (just) up the hill on the A5 from Milton Keynes to Dunstable (from little chef), me a std MY00.

julesm

LOL

Here we go again!

A lot of 20VT's are now running with quite a few mods, from basic mods like Pressure Relief Valves which can up the boost considerably, to Novitec/Unichips with S/S straight through exhausts, uprated suspension etc etc, most mildly modded 20VT are pushing out inxs of 260bhp and 270lbs torque, so if a standard 20VT does 60 in just 6.0 (Autocar test) and 100 in 14.5, imagine what a mildly modded one will do!

CTRnutter

300bhp 299lb ft 0-60 mph 4.6, with 30-50mph times in 4th gear 4.4, 50-70mph in 5th taking 4.9, while 80-100mph in 6th is covered in 6.5secs.

As you stated fiats aren't standard, the above is the standard STI-8 PPP but scoobys have extras too ;-) now also add to PPP package

HKS RSK
HKS VTA BOV
HKS DE-CAT
HKS Downpipe
HKS Boost gauge to maintain 1.3 bar
Knocklink
DO-Luck I/C Spray sytem to make sure all things are cool
PPP Silencer
PPP Fuel Pump
PPP ECU

I'm pretty sure that should be able to handle a fiat 20v turbo especially in the corners

rickydiver I think you '99 will do fine up to about a ton then he will pass you, thats only if you really drive the nuts of your scoob ;-)

[Edited by CTRnutter - 7/15/2003 12:26:39 PM]

ajg

agree with everything said. a scoob would eat my *** on the twisty stuff, no doubt. from a standing start, again unless the fiat driver is a, lucky, or b, god, the scoob will win. but rolling you are normally onto a loser, although in the real world, whoever boots it first in such cars will win. too closely matched. only scoob let down is top end ( sorry only mean the "normal" incarnations ). fiat can go off the clock standard every day and the clock registers 160...

NACRO

Coming from the peage booth on the autoroute in my standard UK Wagon I had a go at one of these. We both came through at the same time I waited and then booted it when I saw he had made the move. I *easily* and I do mean easily beat him from rest and he had at least a 15meter head start. He seemed to catch up eventually at an impressive rate although neither of us had the stomach for a 200KPH plus run on the autoroute.
Traction wise these Fiats must be pretty bad. The moral of the story is the traffic light GP is an easy win, down a slip road to the motorway is possible eating humble pie territory.

julesm

Traction is difficult in a Coupe especially in 1st and 2nd, but with practice this improves, with viscous coupling and and limited boost in 1st and 2nd this should have helped the situation. However, a fair few owners now by-pass the Fiat fitted EBV and have replaced it with a PRV or Boost Controller or similar, this allows greater boost in 1st and 2nd which in theory gives more wheelspin, but with practice better response. A Scooby will nearly always have the upper hand from a standing start, from my experiences they never get more than three car lengths up and are soon reeled in.