pb25m

Thinking of buying a scooby but which model? What are the differences between the phase2 and 3

scoobynutta555

00 is the best

steve G MAN

dont get a bugeye you will regret it m8

Nick1

Quote: dont get a bugeye you will regret it m8

Why?

worley

I had a test drive in a new WRX today (30 mins spirited driving alone). Is it me, or are the seats cr@p? they seem to be less supportive than my old Terzo. As for the steering wheel....how big?

Has anyone else noticed this, or am I being a bit harsh?

( R6 CDW )

True about the seats, Not as huggy as the classic cars.
But you must admit ! Its a far far better car.

chris

scoobynutta555

youre welcome to it ill never get a new shape even the face lift, they may be more up to date with technology, but they heavier and look weird. Saw a P1 next to a uk300, guess which one i bought

Nick1

I went for the bug eye STI and think the seats are very good. Agreed the steering wheel is a little on the large side, but I have got used to it now. I choose this over the P1 because I wanted 4 doors.

They are both very good cars in my opinion

Toonman1

"dont get a bugeye you will regret it"

I haven't - 02 WRX PPP - better than any of my 3 previous Classics. 9 years and one month (tomorrow), of happy UK Impreza Turbo/WRX motoring.

( R6 CDW )

Eh!! I guess you bought the cheapest one????

ScoobyWon't

Suppose it depends on how much money you are willing to lose. The MY01/02 'bugeyes' seem to be depreciating at an alarming rate.

Yet to see what the MY03 depreciates at but I guess it will be less simply due to 2nd hand dealers being more sucessful in shifting the older Turbo 2000 (00 and before models) than bugeyes for around a level price (based on cost new/mileage/condition/colour/fssh and time spent on the sales-lot). The MY03 should depreciate less as it is cheaper new than the MY02 was.... let the arguments begin...

Toonman1

"let the arguments begin"

They started a long time ago... Each to his/her own.

steve G MAN

thought you would know there loseing too much money its the worst scoob ever made and if your honest you know its true

stevenuk300

Basically down to personal preference.
If you can get past the Lights or replace them with quads, basically job done. There are going to be things to put you off on all models. For me the classic was too dated inside even though I loved the look of the car on the outside, and I hated the bugeye lights. I went for the UK300 model instead which has the additional extras over the WRX. The 03 Scoop put me off changing, and didn't find the drive any different.
Good luck with what ever you decide.

rb5 286

iTrader: (2)

go for STi 02 with PPP and some other extras that have been added or wrx PPP 03 in my opinion

STi 03 has very harsh, stiff ride. the WRX 03 is so much smoother and the PPP takes it to just over standard STi 03 power


all depends wot u want at the end of the day and ur funds

suggest u test drive some various models and make ur mind up that way

chrisp

Have you noticed no-one buys a worse car and the new car is always light years ahead LOL . Its worse then brand loyalty there mark loyalty now . Must say I am waiting for something a bit quicker to appear, hate to go backwards in performance terms.

Ajax

You could always buy a Rover ZS
and have the worst of both world

loose money & no power.

Still they do it in WRblue with a f&5£ off big wing, realy looks the part don't you think ?????????????????

pbee

depends on what sort of money you want to spend.

You will probably ony find new 03's not many used ones around.

02's are plentiful on the used markets with some good examples with some good modifications (spoliers, morettes, wheels) going for 12 -14k, there must be some good low milages out there too.

over time you will lose more money buying a new 03 than a used 02 that has allready had the big initial hit of depreciation. IMHO.

there isnt much between them the 03 is slightly quicker, better mpg mainly due to 98ron fuel ecu and exhaust changes. slightly different interior. but you may not even notice the difference. The big difference is the external design at the front, but the morretes do go a long way to correct the 02's "bugeyes".

I bought a my03 because I like having cars from new but you pay a premium for doing so.

cheers

Peter

Toonman1

"thought you would know there loseing too much money"

How would you know? You've no idea of when and where I intend to sell it, and the kind of deal I can negotiate. Why the concern anyway?

"its the worst scoob ever made"

Hmmm. I knew I'd made a mistake buying the 02 WRX PPP as soon as I saw a J Reg Justy bombing down the road...

"if your honest you know its true"

Another Scoobynet mind reader...

steve G MAN

toonman its pretty simple its the worst scoob ever built why do you think they replaced it so fast. the problem might be you went out and payed good money for one and it wont be long before the classic is worth more than the bug eye its loseing its value so quik lol i mean come on they even shaved a couple of grand of one to by new ffs are the alarm bells not ringing

wakeboardar

i take you got classic then steve g

most people that have a classic and slate the 02 cant afford one
and you would agree if your honest

i like the fact that spotty face boyracers dont drive new age subaru`s

but they do seem to get hold of the classics

Toonman1

"worst scoob ever built"

Gosh you talk such utter rubbish!

Firstly - worst Subaru? I assume you've not driven many others then... Justy? XT DL or Turbo? 1600 DL? 1800 GL? Actually, it sounds like you've never driven a WRX either...

Either way, I've no need of advice. My first Impreza Turbo hit the road 9 years and 1 month ago today (when most in the UK and more than likely you as well, had never heard of the car). I'm more than capable of deciding what is right for me and my motoring requirements. A 260bhp 02 WRX PPP is just fine...

You keep going on about depreciation? You've no idea of what deal I got when I bought the car, and of the guaranteed future value written into the contract when it goes. Or, as I said earlier, are you yet another Scoobynet "mind reader", who knows all about the affairs of people you've never met? It's my 23rd new car in 19 years; I rather got the hang of buying and selling them some time ago...

You're also another who's mistaken into thinking the car was updated so quickly. It took 2 years 5 months for the first sheet metal changes to appear on the Classic in the UK (new front end etc...); 2 years 4 months, on the UK WRX (new front end etc... ). I don't think a month makes THAT much difference.

"problem might be"

Try not to be so condescending in future. There's no problem with me at all. I like my car, and have never regretted buying it (neither has my Wife). You appear to have the problem...

How about a deal? I won't tell you what car to buy and you don't tell me... Okay?

Cheers!

chrisp

I had the choice of an MY00 import and a brand new UK MY01 for about the same money. I know which one is worth more now and which has the higher spec and which one is quicker, wanna race me at Santa Pod

Wish I was a spotted teenager again LOL.

pb25m

so lads i only started this thread beacuse i had the choice of a MY02 ppp wrx or MYo3 wrx ( both 5 door) at my local dealer, both within £500 quid of each other and same millage and colour, having never owned a scooby before was looking for a bit os sound advice not to start you all arguing!

Toonman1

I had the choice of numerous 00MYs (so many imports and UK cars around), but chose an 02 WRX PPP. After 3 new Classics, I wanted to move on.

You're happy and so am I. Nice

chrisp

As no sti is on the menu it would have to be a 03 PPP wrx. I know its not in the choice but thats what I would go for other than the sti ppp.

wakeboardar

nah mate santa pods not really my bag
and i bought this o2 for the missus
we had the ppp done last month and it is a very quick car
dont really go for older cars just my choice
if subaru bring out a 04 with a dustbin lid on the bonnet i will probably get one i like new cars thats it
im sure you happy with yours too

well done for saving up for your car and not having it owned by the bank(whatever that means)

chrisp

Toon I had an 98 UK and wanted to move on too and really wanted a new shape even took my cheque book to the 2000 motorshow but I didnt like the lights and there was no PPP. When they first appeared there were no styling mods to change the lights and spoiler and also the PPP took a while to be available. So after driving the import the next day the decision was made. Trouble is I like the new car's refinement but I have been spoilt by the RAs power delivery.

A UK MY04 WRX RA about 1300kgs and 350 bhp and it would be on my driveway .

chrisp

Just too reply to the comment that as a classic owner I cant afford a new one

steve G MAN

teen how i wish them were the days lol