ajm

Do you think that there will be a similar research/development delay in releasing the PPP for the MY03 Sti, or will it be the same parts as for the MY01/02 given the tiny engine differences

I am considering ordering a MY Sti, but I won't unless I can get the PPP with it.

Josh L

As I've already ordered my '03, I've been asking similar questions. The answer I've been given is that there will be, but it probably won't be available until the summer. Although I'm not sure exactly what they do for the PPP, I'm lead to believe that the new intercooler will require changes to the PPP.

Josh

PS To the best of my knowlege, the PPP was never due out until the end of the year anyway, and although dealers were informed that it would be available, they were never told it would be released in the summer, and it's easier for them to blame Prodive and IM that admit they were hasty.

russell hayward

Josh

When you gonna get yourself a proper car ?

I'm going to get on '04, as it may well have that newfangled turbo whatsit

Russ



[Edited by russell hayward - 11/12/2002 8:07:14 PM]

ajm

Its not very clever marketing releasing a car then releasing the performance pack (that everyone seems to think the car needs) 3 months before the new model comes out!

maybe I will just go down the import route and get it tuned independently...

Josh L

Good day Mr Hayward, how the devil are you, you cheeky git!

Just placed an order for an '03. From the reports I've seen, it's got a different turbo (like the Evo), and a few other bits under the bonet, to improve pickup and power lower down the rev range. Should be fun when it arrives.

However, I'm hoping that Autoexpress' estimate of £30k is well wide of the mark. It's £3k more than anyone else has suggested, and with a PPP would make it P1 money. I don't think even IM are that stupid.

Josh

ian_sadler

Hi Josh,

Yep I've just read that and panicked

Going back to my dealer to tell 'em that if its 30k to forget it

Ian

STi wanna Subaru

iTrader: (1)

Here we go again!

ian_sadler

Here we go where again?

Ian

STi wanna Subaru

iTrader: (1)

With the old "When is the PPP due?" You do remember all the threads for the STi 7?

ian_sadler

Sti,

Oh those

Ian

Neil Smalley

The STI type UK was rumoured to be 30K for ages, until the price was released. I find it hard to believe with the amount of competition from hot hatches and other cars(156 GTA etc) that Subaru would pitch the STI at 30K.

T5NYW

iTrader: (4)

You don't want PPP, all It will only save you money on Fuel, waste it on Tyres and add plenty of

Missings Rear wash wipe, Quicker rack and centre diff control

Tony

Limited edition MY02 STi7 PPP'd Prodrive

Skippyscoob

Sorry, folks, but I kinda hope thhat the new STi is £30k cos that would make the £23K I've just paid for MY02 STi Prodrive seem like a very good deal.........;-)

Medway1

Just to let you know Prodrive have employed ECUTEK to write the ECU software for both the new PPP's.

The cars arrrive at there workshop (PE) sometime over the next week for evaluation to begin.

Eagle7

i thought the new turbo and headers were only in the JDM MY03 STI as well as the dynamic differencial.

i hope they put it all in the UK one, but it doesnt look like they will. I can see myself going for a JDM if so.

T5NYW

iTrader: (4)

Eagle,
And more importantly rear wash wipe

Tony

mutant_matt

Medway,

That's a wind up right?

From the ballpark prices I've seen today, it would appear that the STi is going to come in somewhere around the £26,000 mark. According to Autocar today, there have been no engine changes between the 7 and the 8 and that they produce the same power and torque. I think the twin scroll stuff if going to be for the JDM only (thread in drivetrain here and pictures here). Autocar said that you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference in driving between the 7 and 8 (and IMHO that's a good thing)

Ta,

Matt

russell hayward

Twin scroll on the 04MY UK car (probably)

Medway1

Matt

No wind-up Prodrive have done a deal with Ecutek to write the software and when you see what they have actually produced for the current WRX you can see why.

No restrictors required and true quality programming.

ECUTEK are also launching in conjunction with Prodrive there products in the USA.

Mervyn himself told me this only yesterday when i was up there.

john banks

Yes it is true. They were waiting until after SEMA before anything was said.

TheScooby

If what Matt is saying is true.. then bad luck to you guys!! Britian gets the worst deal when it comes to Subarus, so many damn restrictions, you need PPP just to get close to the JDMs. My sympathy goes out to you.

TheScooby

Chins

The Scooby

Well you need something to cheer you up over there, as you cant rely on your rugby team any more

TheScooby

Hey, hey. That was just a cheap shot!!!! mmmm Twin scroll turbo

TheScooby

mutant_matt

LOL @ J

TheScoob, you did deserve that you know don't you

Ecutek does the PPP, hoorah - no more boost clamps, proper remapping.....

Matt

STi wanna Subaru

iTrader: (1)

If it's true about ECuTEK, don't people find it amazing that a company that has been going less than a year is now responsible for mapping the PPP ECU. Great credit to them but what does it say about Subaru and Prodrive. Surely they could have done the same with previous versions of the PPP?

Also, Why don't the company responsible for the JECS ECU release some software similar to DeltaECU and make some money that way instead of letting ECUTEK have the whole market to themselves!

Edited because I was rushing first time I typed it

[Edited by STi wanna Subaru - 11/14/2002 11:55:55 AM]