chrisp

RA arent the fastest 0-60 as they wont do 60 in 2nd maybe quickest 0-70 though

[Edited by chrisp - 9/4/2002 4:31:25 PM]

uxg

I looked at loads of 0-60 times when I was deciding which Subaru to buy. Most vary by a few hundredths here and there but the Type R was always the quickest and most consistent (even quicker than 22bs) at around 4.5 seconds which is why I bought a Type R as I am a 0-60 fiend for some reason

Anyway I have always heard that the Type R's have a short ratio box but I can easily get 60 in 2nd out of it. It just seems to be 3rd and 4th which are very short on it. I always thought they had the same box as the RA but judging by people's comments on here the ratios must be slightly different??

[edited as I can't type for s***]

[Edited by uxg - 9/4/2002 4:39:12 PM]

chrisp

Cant get under 6 LOL yeah right , Top Gear magazine Nov 1997, standard MY97 UK turbo 208bhp 5.2 seconds with external timing equipment so what 276 gonna do with a phase 2 engine .

I also did 0-60 in just over 2.5 seconds recently when I was running in KPH mode .

edited cause it was 5.2 not 5.4

[Edited by chrisp - 9/5/2002 11:43:56 AM]

uxg

Adam M

It's not so important to me. Well almost not anyway.

I picked the Type R becuase it was one of the quickest "out the box" Scoobies I could afford. If I could afford a 22B I would take one over my Type R anyday of the week as like you say 0.1 of a second makes no difference to me as IMO the 22B is the ulitmate Scoobie. I was merely trying to answer the question which was asked in the post by refering to material which I have read. I didn't mean it to sound like a "my car is better than yours" if that's how it came across so no need to get on your high horse mate.

I assume you have a 22B?

Edited after last post.

The Type R also has ally bits and as shown by MElTypeR the Type R is 30kgs lighter than a 22B which would explain why my Type R is 0.1 secs faster than a 22B to 60 :P

[Edited by uxg - 9/5/2002 3:05:34 PM]

peccy

the P1 reaches 60 in 4.6secs, is there a faster one, Type RA? 22B(jap)?

Wavers

BTW anyone know the time for 2001 WRX + PPP?

Adam M

anders jap 22B, was tested by driven using datron timing gear.

with diff fully locked, standard car made 3.8 0-60.

Wasnt standard though had a scoobysport back box on.

hail-hail

STi3 Standard 0-62mph 4.9 secs, and it feels gooooooooood

I won't actually be getting this as the car is a little old and not runing 100 RON fuel, but still not too bad.

black knight

type r, approx 4.6-4.8 depending on clutch action?
did 4.8 in mine but was very gentle with clutch.

scoobycar60

In your dreams guys.....never seen a scoob beat 6 seconds at Trax, the incy wincy standard clutch isn't up to the job, my old 310Bhp/300lbs Sti2 was useless at 0-60 and before some one says it evo 6's and 7's(even worse) are almost as bad. Co55ie should jump in here quite fairly.....anyone see that amazing Escort RS at Trax last year....3.7 secs....shows what can be done.

Rich D

iTrader: (12)

Yes I saw that Cossie go!!!

I also agree about the clutch, well with Evo's anyway. My mate tried a couple of fast launches in his EvoVI and it slipped like b*ggery, so he never bothered after that...

323GTR

I saw an EVO do 3.7, didn't see any scoobs I can remember last year. It depends on driver and mods, there were loads of GTiRs having a go, some ran 4s, some ran 7s.

importsti

Over the years I have seen numerous magazine tests proving that Scoobs can consistently do under 5 secs.

Mo

Scoobycar60,

I hit 5 seconds dead at Trax 2yrs ago and that was bouncing off the limiter in 1st gear before I realised I had to change up I only ran once but I'm sure if I had run again I could've gone under 5.

Standard clutch on a UK car at the time.

Razor2001

what is 0 - 60 on a new JDM STi-7 ? 4.6 correct ?

cheers,
Ray

MrShades

I did a quick, public road so not too heroic, 0-60 test a while back in my friends MY98 UK Turbo. Two up and plenty of fuel on board.

Timed using a Race Technology AC-22 peformance meter at 5.6 secs. Certainly wasn't trying that hard to get that. Could have improved if the road had been drier and it had been driven harder.

His M3 Evo, with SMG, and without using launch control only managed 7.2 on a standing start. Not really indicative of its true performance though....

There have been plenty of reports of 'classics' getting around 5.0 dead, if not lower, when driven properly (and probably destroying most of the clutch in the process).

Anyone that wants to play with 0-60, 0-100, lateral-g or braking tests and wants to try the AC-22 - providing you live somewhere around Gloucester - let me know and by all means try it yourself.

Shades

Raks

I did 0-60 in .00000000000005 millisecs in mine!!!!

STi 7

STi7 Prodrive TYPEUK + PPP

0-60 = 4.5secs??? what u think?

salsa-king

i did a 7.05sec at Trax last year on a MY97 Turbo with Centre pipe back box!! so scared of doin the clutch in!!!

i now have a AP Racing Clutch fited and full de cat zort!
just wait!...and i can get all four wheels biting for traction now when i side step the clutch! awesome standing starts now from lights!


BTW
MikeySingh got a 5sec dead at Trax last year in his UK Turbo!! i saw him do it!
Phil

scoobycar60

I agree that an improved clutch lower times are possible but we were talking standard here. The other worry then is destroying your gearbox......
Mo thats a pretty heroic time, funny enough I think the later UK cars have a bigger clutch than early cars, Stef's car always launched well with a standard clutch, also the gearing (60 in 2nd)and the lightish weight of the classic scooby probably makes it the best bet for this sort of a thing.
Sorry but I only accept data from external timing devices the "little box on the dash" may be fine but I have heard so many stories of 0-60 in 4 secs etc that I find their times hard to believe.
Go to Trax and prove me wrong, but I still wait to see a scooby post significantly under 6 secs (Mo.. sorry didn't see your time, you may be the exception in this)
The STi7 has a larger clutch so may prove quick, but sorry I wont try mine as I personnaly dont want to put all that strain on my clutch and gearbox but if someone else does I would be very interested in the times posted.

Adam M

dont wanto do the whole my cars better than yours thing,

just dont understand uxgs comment.

type rs are consistently the fastest, faster eeven than a 22b.

please explain this to me. the 22B is a type R!. Except that it weighs less, has more torque, and lower down, has more grip due to wider tyres, and has exactly the same gearing (in jap form).

How does this make the type r faster?

btw. I still think its a silly test. all down to driver skill, times are less than consistent, and choosing one car cos of a 0.1 sec advantage, done by someone else is ridiculous!

peccy

subaru state 5.0sec for the 22B type UK, cant find the official subaru time for the Type R's, RA though, just peoples own timing or magazine tests.

anyone know the official subaru 0-60 time for a Type R?

Adam M

what's subarus official time for the uk 2000 which we know is massively overstated?

ps. I did say jap 22b which has a 4.4 final drive instead of a 4.11 (which is gay as I keep telling chuck!

uxg

Don't shoot the messenger. I am only reporting what I have seen in various magazines, internet sites etc. For some reason the Type R is usually listed as being 100-200 hundredths of a second faster (ok I know that isn't much) than a 22B which surprised me at the time as I always assumed the 22B was the quickest Scoob. Are you sure the 22B weighs less than a type R after all it has a slightly bigger engine and extra body panels and a Type R is lightweight. Anyway not starting any arguments just stating what I saw from various different sources. They could all be wrong of course.

As for 6 second 0-60's???? I can quite easily do around 5's without trying too hard i.e. only revving up to about 4000rpm and riding the clutch a little not sidestepping in the Type R.

STi 7

Adam M... Well said

chrisp

Much better indication of real life speed is 20-70 and any scoob with the close ratio box awesome.

black knight

will be running at trax this yr finally, after 6 mths in garage.
at least hope to break the 5 sec mark.

Adam M

uxg,

the panels arent extra they are replacement and are lighter than the originals.

the front and rear bumpers are also fibreglass and the boot lid is ally.

the 2.2 engine is identical to look at except that it has a larger bore meaning strictly speaking it has less metal in it and is therefore lighter, pistons will be bigger yes, but liners are more massive the pistons. Either way splitting hairs here and really not worthwhile.

As I said before .1 secs up to 60 difference is no way to choose a car. Cant believe it remains so important to people.

MelTypeR

iTrader: (4)

Was at the redline records day at bruntingthorpe last year and got a 4.65 0-60 with a slipping clutch that was based on a 13.29 1/4 mile. Since then i have had full decat fitted and ap clucth and full bore standing start at santa pod have recorded a 12.92 which would roughly work out to 4.4 - 4.3 0-60.
Oh yeah redline were using racelogic gps timing gear which is accurate to 2ft.

Oh by the way offical weight of type r is 1240kgs 22B is 1270kgs.

chrisp

Thats okay then because an RA is 1210kgs