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Old 08 July 2002, 04:09 PM
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Mark,

I find your stance on the Nick threads offensive.

Go away please.

Richard.

[Edited by Scotsman - 8/7/2002 4:13:33 PM]
Old 08 July 2002, 04:27 PM
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Just trying to be fair

People forget the mods are in a loose-loose position much of the time

D

[Edited by Diablo - 8/7/2002 4:28:19 PM]
Old 08 July 2002, 04:34 PM
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This was one of those lose-lose situations

If the post had stood then Rich and his family could have been bitterly hurt at a very sensitive time.

If the post was removed, then we get accused of being facist dicators. BUT eventually it'll all blow over. The potential damage to Rich and his family would last far longer

In the end I chose the feelings of Rich and his family over any flack I might take over removing the thread. I hate removing threads and this was the first i've removed for months. Just sometimes we need to take the path of least hurt.



[Edited by Neil Smalley - 8/7/2002 4:36:18 PM]
Old 08 July 2002, 07:09 PM
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It isnt about whether you know someone or dont, its about the irony of the whole thing and offering support to Rich, who I know well and consider to be one of my friends.

It has also made many of us look at life in a different light, and be more appreciative of what we have, and what we should do with it.

Mark - If you saw the look on Rich's face today, and the look/appreciation of his parents at the Subaru/Scoobynet contingent you would change your tune. Guaranteed.

Simon

[Edited by Dream Weaver - 8/7/2002 7:12:40 PM]
Old 08 July 2002, 07:29 PM
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He was one of us. He will be missed. I would've done the repect thing by running my engine the other day, but my car was still in pieces the. As memory to him, I took my now completed car for a speed trip down the bypass. He would have wanted that..


edit: Well I guess he would as he's modded his car up to the magical 300 mark himself.

[Edited by Katana - 8/7/2002 7:31:22 PM]
Old 07 August 2002, 04:07 PM
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Nice to see the moderators have taken a Mao-ist view on censorship. Presumably this thread'll be locked too, now.

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Old 07 August 2002, 04:14 PM
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Great. So I start a thread about how I find this community's reaction to a tragic event offensive, and now I'm being told to go away?

Fair enough. I was on the way out anyway - today's reminded me exactly why I stopped reading the 'General' forum anyway.

<wanders off, shaking head>
Old 07 August 2002, 04:14 PM
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Surely you know by now Mark what the Scoobynet community has become? Suppression of opposing views through censorship has been the norm for the past 2 years now.
Old 07 August 2002, 04:14 PM
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You ****. Its not about everybody jumping on any "bandwagon"
Its about making someone who's feeling as low as possible a tiny bit better by saying that they have your sympathy.
It doesent really matter that we havent met, its about saying kind things to someone who needs to hear kind things.
I'd appreciate it if I was in Rich's shoes.
Have some tact for christs sake.
astraboy.
Old 07 August 2002, 04:16 PM
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I think the point has been made & (un)accepted![img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
Old 07 August 2002, 04:16 PM
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Mark,

While I personally believe your post was badly timed, I appreciate where you are coming from.

Very difficult circumstances for some concerned.

Suggest we leave it at that and move on.

D
Old 07 August 2002, 04:17 PM
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Well said Astraboy!

Mark - I kinda can see your viewpoint, but the thing is they're all clearly marked threads but you don't have to read 'em if you don't want too....and yes, I know that's the standard response!
Old 07 August 2002, 04:19 PM
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Okay, I'm still here. For a few minutes, anyway. To respond:
While I personally believe your post was badly timed,
TBH, no time would have been better. If I'd posted this in 3 days' time, I'd have been accused of dragging up the past, or whatever. <sigh>
Suggest we leave it at that and move on.
I agree.
Old 07 August 2002, 04:20 PM
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Cuts both ways.

Mark's point is that it was not left to individual discretion to read/not read/agree/disagree both the spamming and flaming removed that choice.

Old 07 August 2002, 04:20 PM
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you don't have to read 'em if you don't want too
Could that same statement not be applied the other way round?

Oh, and it's 'to' by the way; 'too' has a completely seperate meaning altogether.
Old 07 August 2002, 04:22 PM
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But by the same token, no one has to read MarkO's threads either.

Works both ways.

D

Sorry, not meaning to be in any way confontational, but we must also accept the posting of that with which we do not necessarily agree.

Old 07 August 2002, 04:22 PM
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Thanks Diablo (for restoring my faith in Mods).
Old 07 August 2002, 04:26 PM
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diabalo,smith,marko,

agree

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Old 07 August 2002, 04:29 PM
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Freudian slip there, Diablo? I presume you meant 'lose-lose'.
Old 07 August 2002, 04:29 PM
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Simon, if you're going to pick apart my other half's spelling you leave me no option but to pick apart yours. "Seperate" does not exist - it is *separate*.
Old 07 August 2002, 04:31 PM
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LOL both......

Old 07 August 2002, 04:31 PM
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Anyway...thought you were fecking off...LOL...
Old 07 August 2002, 04:32 PM
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Lol. Fair enough Chris.
Old 07 August 2002, 04:32 PM
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Would a moderator be in a lose-lose situation as well as a loose-loose one?
Old 07 August 2002, 04:32 PM
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Anyway...thought you were fecking off...LOL...
This thread's too entertaining. I'll go when it gets moved to the muppet forum.
Old 07 August 2002, 04:37 PM
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Neil

You're getting soft m8 - get back into the swing by deleting some more, just like the good 'ol days

Go-on you know you want to! Make you feel better

Old 07 August 2002, 04:39 PM
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Puff

Its not called deleting it's called 'Vaping' a thread. As in to vapourise. I try not to do it too often now as 'vapee's' get upset
Old 07 August 2002, 04:39 PM
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In the end I chose the feelings of Rich and his family over any flack I might take over removing the thread.
Fair play. Can't argue with that.
Old 07 August 2002, 04:50 PM
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MarkO

This has gone the same bad way a thread some weeks back went when someone posted up for some sympathy about a lost pet.

IMHO just forget about this thread now and ignore any of the "Nick" threads.

These things just drag on forever else and lots of people get wound up and things said etc.
Old 07 August 2002, 05:53 PM
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The wonders of Free Speech!

I guess, being an (allegedly) democratic nation we all have the right to say whatever we want no? In the same vein, do we not also have the right to 'Not' listen?

Mak (feeling like a shrink...)



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