Take your car keys to bed - Northants Police Advise!*!
11 July 2002, 12:32 PM
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Just picked up a copy of the Chron and Echo
Front page artical advising owners of high performance/prestige car owners to take their car keys to bed with then. This advice is from Sharon Henley, Community Saftey Officer - can you believe it?
IMHO this has got to be a stupid thing to do and i cannot believe the Police would advise this.
Perhaps they should be out there knicking these scumbag theives instead on concentrating of Speeding motorists!
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[Edited by Paul Habgood - 7/11/2002 12:42:05 PM]
Front page artical advising owners of high performance/prestige car owners to take their car keys to bed with then. This advice is from Sharon Henley, Community Saftey Officer - can you believe it?
IMHO this has got to be a stupid thing to do and i cannot believe the Police would advise this.
Perhaps they should be out there knicking these scumbag theives instead on concentrating of Speeding motorists!
Annoyed of Northampton!
[Edited by Paul Habgood - 7/11/2002 12:42:05 PM]
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11 July 2002, 12:54 PM
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It's not that daft. OK, I'd rather they took the car than came after me, but it's good defense against the casual thief. A friend of mie had his car nicked the other week by someone putting a fishing rod thru his letter box and lifting his keys. This is very common.
The type of people who are goign to be violent towards you to get the keys will probably come after you anyway if they get in the house, they'll probably want to make sure all the phones are disabled etc to prevent you calling the cops too quickly.
It's sound advice.
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The type of people who are goign to be violent towards you to get the keys will probably come after you anyway if they get in the house, they'll probably want to make sure all the phones are disabled etc to prevent you calling the cops too quickly.
It's sound advice.
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11 July 2002, 12:56 PM
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I'd rather leave the keys downstairs and lose the car than end up doing time/funeral when they come up stairs.... 
as Vincent Vega in pulp fiction said: " It would have been worth him doing it just so I could catch him doing it"
Agreed. CRAP advice from the CSO. Wonder if she follows her own advice? ... i bet not... mind you she probably takes the bus or owns a micra
as Vincent Vega in pulp fiction said: " It would have been worth him doing it just so I could catch him doing it"
Agreed. CRAP advice from the CSO. Wonder if she follows her own advice? ... i bet not... mind you she probably takes the bus or owns a micra
11 July 2002, 01:07 PM
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I must be in a minority - I think it's sound advice. Front door double locked, and downstairs zone alarmed every night. And I've ALWAYS taken the keys upstairs with me - that's where the guns live
11 July 2002, 01:18 PM
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I've heard that Northants Police sleep with much more dubious things than their keys!
That's what they need all the revenue from the speed camera vans to pay for.
This is from a reliable source so is not technically libellous
Hope this helps
That's what they need all the revenue from the speed camera vans to pay for.
This is from a reliable source so is not technically libellous
Hope this helps
11 July 2002, 01:21 PM
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I always keep mine in my room. Besides crims have got 2 bedrooms to check before they hit mine which gives me plenty of advance warning (light sleeper) to arm myself (or more likley hide under the bed or in the cupboard).
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11 July 2002, 01:34 PM
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My keys sleep six inches from my head. With doors and windows all v secure and downstairs and garage alarmed, I'd be reachin fer my big stick at first peep of the alarm anyway, regardless of where I keep my keys...
11 July 2002, 01:46 PM
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Will the police ever take action against car related crime?
I mean, car tax dodgers, those that have no insurance or MOT etc.
Or will they continue to rape the tax paying law abiding citizen? (or semi gangsta such as myself)
Really when do we start to get something back?
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I mean, car tax dodgers, those that have no insurance or MOT etc.
Or will they continue to rape the tax paying law abiding citizen? (or semi gangsta such as myself
)Really when do we start to get something back?
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11 July 2002, 01:51 PM
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Will the police ever take action against car related crime?
11 July 2002, 01:55 PM
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well thats the diff between a single man and a family man..
if i was single then yeah, te car would be a priority.. but as it is my wife and daughter might disagree
11 July 2002, 02:11 PM
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> well thats the diff between a single man and a family man..
> if i was single then yeah, te car would be a priority..
> but as it is my wife and daughter might disagree
Well I am a family man which is why I'd be headin downstairs with a big stick anyway if the alarm went off, so may as well sleep easy....
(how'd yer do that quote thang ?)
> if i was single then yeah, te car would be a priority..
> but as it is my wife and daughter might disagree
Well I am a family man which is why I'd be headin downstairs with a big stick anyway if the alarm went off, so may as well sleep easy....
(how'd yer do that quote thang ?)
11 July 2002, 02:12 PM
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I keep the keys by the bed and bloody great big iron bar next to them, if they come up my stairs they will get the bar round the head before my keys or anything else in my house
11 July 2002, 02:19 PM
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Christ, not again
Agreed the Police/Government should be actively fighting car crime not continually shifting the responsibility to owners.
[rant]
BUT and speaking as someone who has:
Had items taken from the garden (including a full six place patio set & parasol)
Chest Freezer Emptied (by some worthless scums kids)
Been burgled (3 times now)
Garage broken into(twice)
Car broken into (once)
Car stolen/recovered once
Attempted car theft (prevented by me after they had already "done" the steering lock)
Nine out of ten of these so called hardened criminals are the same chancers, opportunists or druggies that were yesterday grabbing pensioners handbags! Sure as hell they will try to imitate the gangsters to improve their success rate. (I won't illustrate this by trotting out the same old stories again)
AND the greater their success the greater the numbers who will try it. The more prevelant this type of crime becomes presumably there'll be increased numbers of car owners that will leave their keys beside the door AND the great..........!!!!!!!!!!
Ever stopped to think why the fishing rod coathanger style thefts have increased recently?
So sadly I find myself agreeing with the honourable member for Essex Mr Dave T-S.
Otherwise why not leave the leave the keys in the ignition or simply hang them on a hook with a note saying for use by anyone short of a few bob or needing a fix. Don't worry that's why I have insurance, (and the reason why the home and motor premiums of others escalate a such a rate).
Yes,... I think that covers it!
[rant/]
For the record Chrome, I am neither young, single, hard or macho. I do value my families and my own safety but I'll need to be taken by surprise or "persuaded" that someone is serious about depriving me of my posessions before I hand em over
Agreed the Police/Government should be actively fighting car crime not continually shifting the responsibility to owners.
[rant]
BUT and speaking as someone who has:
Had items taken from the garden (including a full six place patio set & parasol)
Chest Freezer Emptied (by some worthless scums kids)
Been burgled (3 times now)
Garage broken into(twice)
Car broken into (once)
Car stolen/recovered once
Attempted car theft (prevented by me after they had already "done" the steering lock)
Nine out of ten of these so called hardened criminals are the same chancers, opportunists or druggies that were yesterday grabbing pensioners handbags! Sure as hell they will try to imitate the gangsters to improve their success rate. (I won't illustrate this by trotting out the same old stories again)
AND the greater their success the greater the numbers who will try it. The more prevelant this type of crime becomes presumably there'll be increased numbers of car owners that will leave their keys beside the door AND the great..........!!!!!!!!!!
Ever stopped to think why the fishing rod coathanger style thefts have increased recently?
So sadly I find myself agreeing with the honourable member for Essex Mr Dave T-S.
Otherwise why not leave the leave the keys in the ignition or simply hang them on a hook with a note saying for use by anyone short of a few bob or needing a fix. Don't worry that's why I have insurance, (and the reason why the home and motor premiums of others escalate a such a rate).
Yes,... I think that covers it!
[rant/]
For the record Chrome, I am neither young, single, hard or macho. I do value my families and my own safety but I'll need to be taken by surprise or "persuaded" that someone is serious about depriving me of my posessions before I hand em over
11 July 2002, 02:23 PM
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I have to agree what is said is scary.
God forbid I ever caught someone in my house. Like Paul H I known my Empi from my Keage and train with weights (16s 4ib!). Can you imagine the implications of popping the elbow of some 'innocent' housebreaker. Fred Barras again.
It only takes some doped up chancer.
11 July 2002, 02:29 PM
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God forbid I ever caught someone in my house. Like Paul H I known my Empi from my Keage and train with weights (16s 4ib!). Can you imagine the implications of popping the elbow of some 'innocent' housebreaker. Fred Barras again.
11 July 2002, 02:44 PM
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My wife would probably tell me my first priority would be to guard *her* STI7
You can go to jail for that. Violence is not the answer.
Riftzone .....simply top n tail with quote in brackets as "rant" in my earlier post
or click on edit to see an example.At last I contributed something positive
11 July 2002, 03:04 PM
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Call the police. They should arrive at your house in less than 2 minutes..
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11 July 2002, 03:08 PM
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Understand both sides of this. I think taking keys upstairs is a Good Idea. How many people neatly hang their keys up on a key-rack that's in plain view of a window?
Burglars/scum aren't completely stupid. Aggravated burglary and crimes against a person are dealt with a lot more seriously than crimes against property.
Doors double locked, alarm set, keys upstairs. I'm happy.
Burglars/scum aren't completely stupid. Aggravated burglary and crimes against a person are dealt with a lot more seriously than crimes against property.
Doors double locked, alarm set, keys upstairs. I'm happy.
11 July 2002, 04:05 PM
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I personally keep them downstairs, but hidden which is probably the same as keeping them upstairs - I don't want to let some casual tennage scumbag have it away unplanned by advertising them.
However, it's a personal choice thing and I think that the Police should be advising people to keep them downstairs, out of sight from outside, but in an obvious place once you're inside. They should not be encouraging the scum to go upstairs and confront people....
Matt
However, it's a personal choice thing and I think that the Police should be advising people to keep them downstairs, out of sight from outside, but in an obvious place once you're inside. They should not be encouraging the scum to go upstairs and confront people....
Matt
11 July 2002, 04:13 PM
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I keep my key's upstairs with me as well, but the house and garage have a monitored alarm and panic buttons linked to the police station.
Assuming they get passed that, they have to get past 45Kgs of German Shepard sleeping outside my doorfirst who's grumpy in the morning let alone in the middle of the night.
Assuming they get passed that, they have to get past 45Kgs of German Shepard sleeping outside my doorfirst who's grumpy in the morning let alone in the middle of the night.