SCOSaltire

Hi all

Assuming good conditions, what MPH do you normally do on the following roads?

**Motorway**

**Dual Carriageway**

**National Speed limit A road**

**National Speed limit B road**

**50 mph Dual Carriageway**

**50 mph Single Carriageway**

**40 mph Dual Carriageway**

**40 mph Town Road**

**30 mph Town Road**

**20s plenty zone**

**50 mph Road Works**

**40 mph Road Works**

**30 mph Road Works**

**Outside schools**

**Busy high street**

**Quiet residential area**

**Industrial Estate**

**Your road**


Just interested...

ork

Flat out,

especially in the 20 zone.

Fosters

Motorway (exc. M25) and dual carriageway 80-95. Everywhere else, I stick to the speed limit.

I've never had a ticket, so I'm sticking to that rule.

Has anyone noticed on the M4 on a sunday afternoon/night coming into london, you'll be driving merrily along at 95 and people in the fast lane are overtaking you all the time Sounds great to me, but I never see the rozzers on there!

sasman

I think at the moment you can do 26 over the limit and not get a ban. That's my rule, except for towns which would be 30 to 45 depending on pedestrians time of day etc. Good quite {oh god} quiet country roads 110 top, don't want to squash any wildlife. You realize in 5 years you'll get a 60 pound {sorry} 1000 Euro {if it keeps dropping} fine for just thinking this let alone typing it, and probably hung for doing it. I hope they do it well. Police state? almost not long to wait, Their shooting naturalists now. GOING TO HAVE A LIEDOWN.

Jerome

I do an appropriate speed in all of these limits. Which may be well over or under the posted limit.

Although I do have a maximum in all of these limits that I virtually never go over. I'd rather not reveal in public what all of these limits are...

[This message has been edited by Jerome (edited 24 May 2001).]

Robertio

iTrader: (1)

**Motorway** As Conditions Dictate (rather not clarify)

**Dual Carriageway** As Conditions Dictate (rather not clarify)

**National Speed limit A road** As Conditions Dictate (rather not clarify)

**National Speed limit B road** As Conditions Dictate (rather not clarify)

**50 mph Dual Carriageway** As Conditions Dictate (norm < 80)

**50 mph Single Carriageway** As Conditions Dictate (norm < 70)

**40 mph Dual Carriageway** 40-45

**40 mph Town Road** < 40

**30 mph Town Road** < 30

**20s plenty zone** < 20

**50 mph Road Works** 55

**40 mph Road Works** 45

**30 mph Road Works** 35

**Outside schools** As Conditions Dictate (if quiet just under limit, if people around take 10 or so off)

**Busy high street** As Conditions Dictate (normally much slower than traffic behind would like)

**Quiet residential area** Pretty close to the limit

**Industrial Estate** Around limit

**Your road** Don't own any

dfullerton

well my boss drives a company bmw, and as he says if he was doing 100 in a mondaeo no one would look at him but in the beemer.....
any way most cars do a 100 mph thease days but how many can get there like a SCOOB, going round bends in the wet

HunterB

I'm with Jerome. Driving at an appropriate speed for the prevailing conditions is much safer than driving with any reference to an arbitrarily posted speed limit.

Brian

Diablo

On all, as conditions dictate, but assuming negligable traffic:-

**Motorway**

- claiming the 5th

**Dual Carriageway**

- as above

**National Speed limit A road**

- as above

**National Speed limit B road**

As fast as conditions allow

**50 mph Dual Carriageway**

usually not more than + 10

**50 mph Single Carriageway**

usually not more than + 10

**40 mph Dual Carriageway**

40

**40 mph Town Road**

<40

**30 mph Town Road**

<30

**20s plenty zone**

Don't have any round here

**50 mph Road Works**

50 max

**40 mph Road Works**

40 max

**30 mph Road Works**

30 max

**Outside schools**

Generally with great care and slowly

**Busy high street**

MAX attack! - only joking, as per schools

**Quiet residential area**

Quitely, with care

**Industrial Estate**

???

**Your road**

Don't have one!

My general attitude is behave in 50's and below, anythng goes on National Speed Limit Applies roads.

D

MattOz

Always follow the following rules:

20's, 30's, 40's and 50's, especially with roadworks, schools, high street scenarios etc. I stick to the limit, if not below in some cases. You are far more likely to cause injury or get nicked in these areas.

Dual carriageways, A roads, Motorways. As conditions allow really. In the car, I'll do 90 ish on the M'way. On my bike, its a different story. The problem is that 6,000 rpm on the bike is a really nice cruising speed. It's naturally into its stride, and feels like it's just ticking over. The problem being that it equates to 107mph! OOps! The redline is set at 12,000 rpm, but I imagine the excuse of " I was only using half the revs" wouldn't wash in court!

Matt

Mad Max

Assuming good conditions, it all depends on the visibility, traffic, proximity of trees, houses, etc...

I can drive at 100 mph on a nice country road where the speed limit is 50, and I can drive at 30 on a 40 limited road...

I basically don't really follow a rule, and drive at a speed I'm confortable with according to conditions like:

Road works: Depends on vilibility, on how close to the road the works really are, and how many people I see working ... Usually pretty close to the limit the road works set, but sometimes slower.

Outside schools and busy high streets: Sp slow that I will annoy most people, but it's the price to pay to be sure I can avoid a kid runnig out from between 2 parked cars.

Quiet residential areas: 15-30 mph, always one gear higher then I should be. Once again depending on how close everything is from the road... Parked cars, kids playing, etc.

Industrial estate... WFT Rally speed, if I have the luck of getting there on a weekend . On normal working days, pretty slow, because a parked truck in the middle of the road when I come out of a turn is a Nasty Surprise.

My road... Very slow 10-15 because it's a residential area, and I do want to keep a good reputation (some will say it's too late). I don't like showing off, and I see fast driving around the block a boy-racer thing. +, Either the car is cold, and warming up, or it's hot, and cooling down. The first/last mile is just to take care of the engine.

Max

Mad Max

OOps... Double post

[This message has been edited by Mad Max (edited 24 May 2001).]

astraboy

######DISCLAIMER#######
All information posted below is fictional and for entertainment purposes only.
astraboy.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by SCOSaltire:
<B>Hi all

Assuming good conditions, what MPH do you normally do on the following roads?

**Motorway**

Personal best is 109. Tend not to cane it on motorways.

**Dual Carriageway**

PB IS 130-ish whilst racing a german in a Porche GT3

**National Speed limit A road**
80 ish no real experiances on these ones.
**National Speed limit B road**
tend to lift off at about 85. its a RWD thing.
**50 mph Dual Carriageway**

PB is around 100.

**50 mph Single Carriageway**

as above.

**40 mph Dual Carriageway**

PB is 119 mph. I was in a weird mood at the time.

**40 mph Town Road**

50 ish.

**30 mph Town Road**

roads I know, 45-50. roads i dont know, 37 max.

**20s plenty zone**

More of a burnouts and wheelspins deal

**50 mph Road Works**

usually camera infested, hence 50mph.

**40 mph Road Works**

as above

**30 mph Road Works**

as above

**Outside schools**

Is that a school? WOOSH! dunno, goin too fast.

**Busy high street**

as fast as it takes to wind up the turbo and snort the dump valve in first & second.


**Quiet residential area**

as above

**Industrial Estate**

Don't concentrate on speed, concentrating on holding the sideways drift.

**Your road**

15mph max. cats about y'see.

Just interested...[/quote]

Before you all start I will ask you to RTFD.
READ THE F@#KIN DISCLAIMER!
astraboy.

CharliePsycho

**Motorway**
Convicted - in excess 145 mph 6 month ban £2000 fine
**Dual Carriageway**
As conditions allow
**National Speed limit A road**
Convicted 121.12mph 56 day ban £1500 fine
**National Speed limit B road**
As conditions allow
**50 mph Dual Carriageway**
50 mph for speed camera's
**50 mph Single Carriageway**
50 mph for speed camera's
**40 mph Dual Carriageway**
40 mph for speed camera's
**40 mph Town Road**
40 mph
**30 mph Town Road**
25-30 as conditions allow
**20s plenty zone**
???
**50 mph Road Works**
camera infested hell
**40 mph Road Works**
Camera infested hell
**30 mph Road Works**
Camera infested hell
**Outside schools**
15 mph
**Busy high street**
5 mph following pedestrians
**Quiet residential area**
20mph
**Industrial Estate**
speed bumps 3mph
**Your road**
live in rural area - so about 50 mph...completely sideways

As conditions allow is the rule... but overtaking unmarked cars isn't

SCOSaltire

I would normally do:

**Motorway**
80 - 85
**Dual Carriageway**
80 - 85
**National Speed limit A road**
65 - 70
**National Speed limit B road**
55 - 65
**50 mph Dual Carriageway**
50 - 60
**50 mph Single Carriageway**
50 - 60
**40 mph Dual Carriageway**
45
**40 mph Town Road**
40 - 45
**30 mph Town Road**
25 - 30
**20s plenty zone**
20
**50 mph Road Works**
55
**40 mph Road Works**
45
**30 mph Road Works**
35
**Outside schools**
&lt;=20
**Busy high street**
&lt;=20
**Quiet residential area**
25
**Industrial Estate**
35 - 40
**Your road**
20

Just everyday driving.

IWatkins

I follow the speed limit in most cases. I can be found a few miles an hour over the 30 limit in those areas that really don't need a 30 (lots of areas in Worcestershire like that).

Apart from that, if weather/traffic conditions allow, I tend to cruise at 80 - 85 on motorways and maybe as high as 80 on quiet, not many entries, national limit dual-carrigeways. In both cases, if conditions are clear and traffic nil, I have been known to 'give it some'.

I tend to be very careful in roadworks as there is so much going on, that higher speeds are just too difficult to maintain safely.

My road is a deffo. 15 mph because I cannot slalom around the cats any quicker, especially StreetCat (TM) that lives in the middle of the road (honestly).

Cheers

Ian

ork

Usually stick to the spead limits.

Probably more to do with petrol costs.

matt d

Was the 145 real or indicated?

Speed limits are stupid, I can name conditions where it's safe to do 50 outside a school (3am with good visibility), or 140 on a country road (anything straight in the middle of nowhere with huge visibility), and I've been on motorways in fog or very heavy rain where it's dangerous to do 50 (yet everyone else was doing 60-70 and I passed over a dozen cars crashed or pulled up on the hard shoulder in about 200 miles). 155 is safe on the autobahn when empty and in good conditions, so it's "safe" (apart from the risk to your license) on the M1 too.

Speed limits are inherently stupid because conditions constantly change, and cars and drivers differ hugely in ability; the only offence should be driving too fast for conditions i.e. dangerous or careless driving.

steve170

"Speed limits are inherently stupid because conditions constantly change, and cars and drivers differ hugely in ability; the only offence should be driving too fast for conditions i.e. dangerous or careless driving."

Trouble is Matt, there are some people out there who can't think for themselves and therefore would drive too fast for the conditions. That's why the rest of us have to put up with speed limits.

It's the way that the speed limits are policed that should be changed. This new "zero tolerance" attitude by the police is ridiculous!!

Around they've started putting loads of 50 zones up and speed cameras on main A roads to slow people down and stop accidents. It would be much better just to have stronger "No overtaking" signs where the accident blackspots are?

Ok rant over....

(At the moment I drive as fast as my overboosting problem will let me!!)

Dream Weaver

As Astraboy, the below is purely fictional and for entertainment only

I generally stick to all speed limits these days except:

Motorway - between 70 - 100 depending on traffic. Usually 75 though for good MPG.

Quiet A/B-roads (wide ones, as I dont like the narrow ones). Between 30 and 120 (NM5).

PB - Once topped out my 205 GTi 1.6 at an indicated <B>138mph</B> with passenger - it was redlining at this point (6500rpm) . MUST point out this was on an empty motorway straight and for about 15 seconds. Would never do this in traffic.

DW

CLS

Test

PaulFisher

Like the other chaps said, this is completely fictional, and I have never been over the speed limit, officer.

**Motorway**
Top speed: 155 (Limited to- indicated more) in my M5 chasing a Porsche - 4.30 in the morning, the only other car there, clear straight road, dry, lit, moonlight.

normally never over 100, except in the dead of night. normal daytime driving 80-85. BUT! I do leave a large gap between me and the next car... something only I seem aware of these days!!??

**Dual Carriageway**
130 in the M5 - only as conditions
normally 50-80 - depends on road visibility, wether, etc.

**National Speed limit A road**
game on. rude not to.
*BUT* I never go fast around areas which I know to have horses/cyclists around.

**National Speed limit B road**
not too quick.

**50 mph Dual Carriageway**
65 ish
**50 mph Single Carriageway**
60ish
**40 mph Dual Carriageway**
50ish
**40 mph Town Road**
49ish
**30 mph Town Road**
35&lt; depends if there are any kiddies / pedestrians around, also if its wet. Lots of kiddies = 10&lt;

**20s plenty zone**
kiddies around 10&lt;
no-one / dead of night 35
parked cars / school-time 20&lt;
**50 mph Road Works**
59
**40 mph Road Works**
49
**30 mph Road Works**
39
**Outside schools**
v.careful 10 - 30 depending on conditions
**Busy high street**
20ish
**Quiet residential area**
30ish
**Industrial Estate**
40
**Your road**
15


I think its all to do with particulat instances of road conditions / visibility / kiddies around / etc...

interesting post.

Paul.

vmax

Depends on who's asking.... Special Constable SCOSaltire

Put this way.... Do you guys have warp drive yet !

Maddy

Anyone that doesn't break the speed limit in their scooby must be telling porkies.

And with the increasingly build up of traffic this can sometimes lead to aggression i.e "I'll admit to this" if I have been driving in constant tail backs for 30-40 mins as soon as theirs a bit of open road I'll stamp on the accelerator but this will soon stop with with the big role out of speed camera's, I've heard there's a giant rollouts on the 14th of June (not sure if anyone can validate this).

So with all the traffic & speed cameras preventing you speeding not to mention the worry of been caught by an unmarked police vehicle, I believe having a fast car but not been able to drive it fast without the guilt can lead to aggression, either that or i'm insane mad driver.

I'd would love to take my aggression out on track However what annoys me is the total cost of a track days , including all the hidden costs not to mention the additional insurance you can spend around £300 just for one day.

I personally think that our transport minister whom likes to throw the odd punch should donate some of his large budget to helping fund trackdays hence making them more affordable, This keeping aggression of the road and giving people the chance to learn how to drive performance cars safely.

Maddy - In an ideal world

SCOSaltire

aye - its great fun driving up here, isnt it!

I find that too - about the motorway driving speeds being higher down south.

For example, i went down to edinburgh last night.. and got passed by about 2 cars the whole time.. dispite doing less than 85 all the way.

I was interested to find out peoples thoughts on the speed limits, and the way they think of the risk of going faster.

It seems Crazy to me that you can get banned doing 90 on an empty motorway just the same as getting banned doing 90 on a packed motorway. In fact, I would imagine that you may be of less risk on a busy Motorway.

I find at roadworks, if I aim to do the speed limit the cars in front pull away, and i get cars very close behind me.

In town I find most people want to do 30 or less. Its only very occasionaly that I find anyone doing over 35. Tho its quite often that the people that do 40 in the town do 40 outside the town to!

Often cars slow down near accident blackspots. The big signs saying accident blackspot are very effective at slowing people down. Speed cameras at these spots are a good idea too - to slow cars down.

However, mobile cameras at the side of good roads that are very safe are totally unnecessary. It creates a feeling of speed paranoia which causes more looking at the speedo rather than mirrors, views positions and movements of other cars, objects on the road. I wonder how many concertina brakes lights are caused by this...

It seems from peoples responses that most agree that driving to the road conditions is paramount.

There has been condemnation of people driving fast on town roads - your road is someone elses road. This again sugests that most would drive with care in the town.

Most people that drive fast seem to want to do it only when there is a low risk of injury to others and themselves. This suggests a respect to other drivers and how their driving would affect them.

I am sure that, like yellow flags on a track, these same drivers would LIKE to have accident blackspots to be marked and cameras there to marshal them.

In conclusion, most drivers respect each other and town driving. Most drive to the conditions. Most would only open up above the speed limit when conditions allow. Unnecessary speed cameras create bad driving habits and distract from assessing the conditions. Speed cameras at accident blackspots are not frowned upon.

In todays ever increasing camera infested roads, it would appear that a change of policy of camera placement would be met with more responsible and safe driving. Perhaps at the same time, to get back some revenue, the government could implement more training and testing for drivers. Perhaps driven from insurance rating or time licence held.

Ooops, that post got a bit big - got carried away!

chiark

Given that we're all so bloody good, does anyone else get annoyed with buses insisting on 40mph in 30 zones on busy streets - one of which has flowers on a lamppost three times a year...

Are there any formal complaint procedures that can be followed?

Nick.

sasman

Who started this bloody thread, after my small rant about police state's and sticking to my 26 over the limit rule some sneaky f%$ker lased me today. He starts giving me the speech so I just asked him how fast and to my great relief his stupid gun said 92. Now I watch for these people just like everyone on hear, but this bloke zapped me from the on ramp of a dual carriageway. So unless he was hiding in the bushes that separate the two they must be taking readings from behind. I mentioned to him that perhaps we should abolish all limits and see what happened to the fatality rate (not a lot in my opinion) but I couldn't convince him. Has anyone brought one of the laser jammers that were on a recent thread as I was considering them, now a definite if they work. Also I would be interested to know where you can read the data on road accidents to get a true picture of what really causes the fatalities, as if the treasury really cares. I feel that there seems to be a large number involving lorries squashing cars and would be interested to know if I am wrong. PS that's the Exeter Plymouth road, Charlie physic if you get that far down 3 mile before Ashburton PPS 12 yrs since last ticket SOB

Dave P

I try very hard to obey limits under 40. Just because the road is empty at 3 am it's not acceptable to bomb about at 50mph. People (like me) are trying to sleep.

Motorways 85 to 90

Dual Carriageways... depends on the conditions and my knowledge of the road... upto 100...

Roadworks, normally the speed of the rest of the 1 mile tailback

The rest pretty much as Jerome says... whatever the conditions dictate, sometimes substantially under, sometimes substantially over.

Dave

john banks

I have done all my regular driving in Scotland except for visits to relatives etc. Have to say that the further South you go the faster people get - I was amazed to see the average person doing 90+ in the middle lane and many 100+ in the outside lane. In Scotland it seems that most folk on the motorways/dual are actually doing 60-70 - so you would really draw attention if you were doing more than 85 (so I try not to). Many of our A/B roads are fantastic with a good 1/4 mile or so between you and the next vehicle even during the day - you can really use the cars potential... No congestion to speak of outside Edinburgh and Glasgow really. Very cool indeed, and the AWD gets a workout as it rains all the time.

Robertio

iTrader: (1)

Oh, I forgot that one for my list in the other thread. Also that they sit on your bumper in you are doing 30, it doesn't exactly take a genius to work out that the Scooby is going to be a bit shorter before the bus driver even has time to hit his brakes should something happen.