Hawkeye or type r
07 March 2018, 05:23 PM
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Hawkeye or type r
Hi I bought a aspen white wrx sti Hawkeye of the forum last year . I abousoutly love the car but I've recently been thinking about getting a wrx sti type r . A friend of mine has said the gear boxes are not very good and you need to do a six speed conversion for reliability and running more power . Any thoughts of any one who had owned a type r and a new-age would be welcome .
07 March 2018, 05:29 PM
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Hi I bought a aspen white wrx sti Hawkeye of the forum last year . I abousoutly love the car but I've recently been thinking about getting a wrx sti type r . A friend of mine has said the gear boxes are not very good and you need to do a six speed conversion for reliability and running more power . Any thoughts of any one who had owned a type r and a new-age would be welcome .
07 March 2018, 05:54 PM
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hi I know the type is lighter and it's ment to be a more raw driving experience. But you mentioned ability build etc if you could give me some more details. I've got a type r in mind that I should be looking at next weak
07 March 2018, 06:28 PM
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its very very differnt car indeed, drive one and see is the best advice. Type R as said is much more raw, noise, acceleration and how it drives, it's much more tail happy. There arn't driver aids so no traction control or ABS and the only thing you have to play with is the DCCD.
The gearbox is a 5 speed and is very short ratio (you'll be sitting at 4k rpm at motorway speeds) so depends on if you plan on doing alot of motorway driving.
As far as modding goes depends how far you want to go and what your budget is.
Also the 2.0 will drive very differnt to the 2.5.
they really are chalk and cheese.
Personal choice, daily a hawk, weekend toy a type R.
What i can tell you is a 2.5 6 speed type r is an absolute hoot
The gearbox is a 5 speed and is very short ratio (you'll be sitting at 4k rpm at motorway speeds) so depends on if you plan on doing alot of motorway driving.
As far as modding goes depends how far you want to go and what your budget is.
Also the 2.0 will drive very differnt to the 2.5.
they really are chalk and cheese.
Personal choice, daily a hawk, weekend toy a type R.
What i can tell you is a 2.5 6 speed type r is an absolute hoot
07 March 2018, 07:59 PM
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type r is light and is a good car, but to run power in excess of 400bhp will require an engine build, clutch, gearbox etc. just bere in mind type r is also a very old car.
a type r fully built is properly is very quick. hawkeye much newer etc. as said above two totally different cars. if budget is fairly strict i would opt for the hawkeye.
a type r fully built is properly is very quick. hawkeye much newer etc. as said above two totally different cars. if budget is fairly strict i would opt for the hawkeye.
07 March 2018, 08:12 PM
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What hawkeye have you got? Any photo’s of it as im on the lookout for on myself and if your buying a type R..
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07 March 2018, 08:28 PM
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its very very differnt car indeed, drive one and see is the best advice. Type R as said is much more raw, noise, acceleration and how it drives, it's much more tail happy. There arn't driver aids so no traction control or ABS and the only thing you have to play with is the DCCD.
The gearbox is a 5 speed and is very short ratio (you'll be sitting at 4k rpm at motorway speeds) so depends on if you plan on doing alot of motorway driving.
As far as modding goes depends how far you want to go and what your budget is.
Also the 2.0 will drive very differnt to the 2.5.
they really are chalk and cheese.
Personal choice, daily a hawk, weekend toy a type R.
What i can tell you is a 2.5 6 speed type r is an absolute hoot
The gearbox is a 5 speed and is very short ratio (you'll be sitting at 4k rpm at motorway speeds) so depends on if you plan on doing alot of motorway driving.
As far as modding goes depends how far you want to go and what your budget is.
Also the 2.0 will drive very differnt to the 2.5.
they really are chalk and cheese.
Personal choice, daily a hawk, weekend toy a type R.
What i can tell you is a 2.5 6 speed type r is an absolute hoot
07 March 2018, 08:56 PM
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07 March 2018, 09:31 PM
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I've had a JDM new age STI (MY04), and also bought my 22B with a 6 speed in it, then converted it back to standard, so hopefully I've covered all options in your query.
From my point of view, I thought the MY04 was a nice step up from what I'd had before (and even that was a classic JDM STI). I thought it felt pretty quick, and was almost like a limo in comparison.
The 22B (which is a bit like the type r you're talking about) came with the 6 speed, which seemed to be over engineered as far as the gearbox goes. Maybe its a bit like saying everything else felt so raw, and then the gearbox as "modern"...
When I went back to the 5 speed box of bolts, everything seemed to be about the same level of rawness.
As for how it all felt, I did prefer the older cars, no doubt. The newer ones seemed to isolate you from the road a little more, it was more compliant in the suspension, it also had wider tyres, and generally felt more solid. But the older classics are lighter, felt a bit more flickable, and I think maybe the best way I'd describe how I felt was that the new age is an everyday car, whereas the classics are more weekend cars, if that makes sense.
Agree 100% on the comments around how far you plan to mod. The 5 speed gearbox wont handle anywhere near the abuse that a 6 will, although I understand with the 4.444 ratios out there, they arent that bad, but if you do plan to go nuts, then a 6 speed is a good insurance policy.
From my point of view, I thought the MY04 was a nice step up from what I'd had before (and even that was a classic JDM STI). I thought it felt pretty quick, and was almost like a limo in comparison.
The 22B (which is a bit like the type r you're talking about) came with the 6 speed, which seemed to be over engineered as far as the gearbox goes. Maybe its a bit like saying everything else felt so raw, and then the gearbox as "modern"...
When I went back to the 5 speed box of bolts, everything seemed to be about the same level of rawness.
As for how it all felt, I did prefer the older cars, no doubt. The newer ones seemed to isolate you from the road a little more, it was more compliant in the suspension, it also had wider tyres, and generally felt more solid. But the older classics are lighter, felt a bit more flickable, and I think maybe the best way I'd describe how I felt was that the new age is an everyday car, whereas the classics are more weekend cars, if that makes sense.
Agree 100% on the comments around how far you plan to mod. The 5 speed gearbox wont handle anywhere near the abuse that a 6 will, although I understand with the 4.444 ratios out there, they arent that bad, but if you do plan to go nuts, then a 6 speed is a good insurance policy.
07 March 2018, 10:24 PM
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Ive got a Vauxhall signum diesel for my daily . If I got a type r it would be used on a regular basis but kept off the roads when gritters have been out .
07 March 2018, 11:33 PM
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Im an old fart with a 400 odd bhp blob, and last year a mate gave me the chance to drive his 400 Type R.
All I can say is wow, as many have said above, they are poles apart in almost every department. His has a 6 speed non dccd, which I thought would spoil the experience somewhat but boy was I wrong. The 1st 4 gears disappear at an alarming rate, the sensation of speed and connection to the road is massive compared to my car.
I had to sit down and have a serious think regarding what I wanted from a car, and ultimately I've stuck with my blob as its where I wanted it and the practicality of a 2 door wouldnt suit us.
You definitely need to drive one before making any sort of decision
All I can say is wow, as many have said above, they are poles apart in almost every department. His has a 6 speed non dccd, which I thought would spoil the experience somewhat but boy was I wrong. The 1st 4 gears disappear at an alarming rate, the sensation of speed and connection to the road is massive compared to my car.
I had to sit down and have a serious think regarding what I wanted from a car, and ultimately I've stuck with my blob as its where I wanted it and the practicality of a 2 door wouldnt suit us.
You definitely need to drive one before making any sort of decision
08 March 2018, 06:13 AM
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What about the type r is more appealing to you over the hawk? If it's that rawness your after consider a spec c hawk? Miles ahead of the UK version in every department imo and gives you that raw direct driving feel. I'm in love with mine doubt I'll ever sell it tbh
08 March 2018, 06:43 AM
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What about the type r is more appealing to you over the hawk? If it's that rawness your after consider a spec c hawk? Miles ahead of the UK version in every department imo and gives you that raw direct driving feel. I'm in love with mine doubt I'll ever sell it tbh
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[QUOTE=iceicebaby1980;11999308]
Im after getting Somthing a bit more old Skool Somthing fun to drive being lighter . I also like how they look being two doors . The way prices are going with the type r . I feel now is the time to get one before they become to exspensive . Also the car I'm going to view has been checked over no exspense spared . So I know it would be a good buy .[/QUOT
Is it in Wales? Version 6
Im after getting Somthing a bit more old Skool Somthing fun to drive being lighter . I also like how they look being two doors . The way prices are going with the type r . I feel now is the time to get one before they become to exspensive . Also the car I'm going to view has been checked over no exspense spared . So I know it would be a good buy .
Is it in Wales? Version 6
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