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Old 28 June 2017, 07:54 AM
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Default Power steering pump refurb

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Got a Noisy pump and also bubbles in the reservoir tank thinking of replacing the seals and fluid to sort it
Noise is not permanent yet only now and again so got time to think how to deal with it
Don't want to replace with another used unit

any advice etc is appreciated not done one before

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Mines making noises on my blob. Sometimes whines and judders, so replacing the unit. Bout one of a breakers for cheap. Think there's a video on YouTube I saw on how to replace one. Looks quite straight forward.
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Originally Posted by jaygsi
Mines making noises on my blob. Sometimes whines and judders, so replacing the unit. Bout one of a breakers for cheap. Think there's a video on YouTube I saw on how to replace one. Looks quite straight forward.
I was thinking on them lines mate but there's no guarantee the unit from a breakers will last
it's why I always try to refurb if it's only things like seals etc or just buy a genuine brand new unit for piece of mind
how do I deal with this situation?
New seals or unit?
What's actually making the whining noise? and there's bubbles in the reservoir tank but go away when there's no noise it's intermittent at the moment

First time I've come across one whining in over ten years of scoobyness
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For the Blobeye pump you can get all the bits and pieces, for MY03 onwards not.

MY01-02



MY03>


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Before stripping it all down it's worth just doing a fluid change first, mines so much quieter since I took the 18 year old black stuff out and replaced it with fresh stuff, the system takes less than a litre so could be a cheap fix.
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Mine was used while fluid level was low. So think mines wrecked.
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Originally Posted by Shane
Before stripping it all down it's worth just doing a fluid change first, mines so much quieter since I took the 18 year old black stuff out and replaced it with fresh stuff, the system takes less than a litre so could be a cheap fix.
Defo Worth doing I'll change it first thanks for the advice pal

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Originally Posted by Don Clark
For the Blobeye pump you can get all the bits and pieces, for MY03 onwards not.

MY01-02



MY03>

If fluid change doesn't work don am I looking at replacing the full unit then?
if yes what's my best route to take please ?
Thanks for advice don always appreciated
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Originally Posted by jaygsi
Mine was used while fluid level was low. So think mines wrecked.
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Zany for the cost and the hassle of stripping and rebuilding the pump yourself...dont forget its easy to nip a seal or damage an o ring during this process just to find its still not right it might not even be the origional problem if you have big pockets buy a new one with a guarantee or just pop over to scoobyspares or phone Matty at MB Developments and get a good second hand one they arnt that expensive second hand and you will still get some sort of guarantee
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Originally Posted by ZANY
Defo Worth doing I'll change it first thanks for the advice pal
I just used a big syringe from eBay with a bit of pipe stuck on the end, sucked a load out, topped up with fresh stuff, lock to lock a few times with the engine running and repeated the process until what was coming out was the same colour as what was going in.
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Originally Posted by gussy
Zany for the cost and the hassle of stripping and rebuilding the pump yourself...dont forget its easy to nip a seal or damage an o ring during this process just to find its still not right it might not even be the origional problem if you have big pockets buy a new one with a guarantee or just pop over to scoobyspares or phone Matty at MB Developments and get a good second hand one they arnt that expensive second hand and you will still get some sort of guarantee
Deffo totally agree

Going to change the fluid fully on the ramp tomorrow morning if not sorted then a phone call to icp on Monday morning
I have nothing against using used parts just piece of mind
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Originally Posted by Shane
I just used a big syringe from eBay with a bit of pipe stuck on the end, sucked a load out, topped up with fresh stuff, lock to lock a few times with the engine running and repeated the process until what was coming out was the same colour as what was going in.
Nice one got it covered
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reckon it would be worth doing the fluid on a 130k kms car JDM... its the year that bothers me as its 14years old , sorry to hijack!
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you may want to check pump style first as pulley wont come off without a press if its not on with nut. The pumps that have allen key on front is actually part of pump shaft and not a retainer, their pulleys are press fit, i dint know this till after i took one apart and bent the pulley in process.
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Originally Posted by EndaITR
reckon it would be worth doing the fluid on a 130k kms car JDM... its the year that bothers me as its 14years old , sorry to hijack!
It's one of those things that gets overlooked along with the clutch fluid, although mine has only done 72k it's over 18 years old and I doubt either had been done, both were black, for the sake of an hours work I've quietened down my power steering pump and the clutch pedal doesn't go hard when sat in traffic now.
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Originally Posted by euan_r
you may want to check pump style first as pulley wont come off without a press if its not on with nut. The pumps that have allen key on front is actually part of pump shaft and not a retainer, their pulleys are press fit, i dint know this till after i took one apart and bent the pulley in process.
Good call
looking at dons diagrams mines got the nut on the end
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£608 from dealers
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Originally Posted by ZANY
£608 from dealers
A bit cheaper at ICP
https://www.importcarparts.co.uk/par...y=&searchPart=
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Originally Posted by Don Clark
Rang them up allready don and they have said "we do not supply this part"
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Thinking about this one from America


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you could try Rock Autos

http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/s...ring+pump,7380

(might not be your exact car.....)

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After a long thought as my brother doesn't have deep pockets and a little research I'll be changing all fluid out today and if not right plan B

Plan B is to get another used unit and refurb it myself replacing the rings and bearing as it has been done on an American thread before

Hope fluid change works but I'm still going to refurb one unit myself just incase mine goes in future or his
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Good luck.
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Originally Posted by ZANY
....as it has been done on an American thread before...
Interested in this - have you got a link ??
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Originally Posted by albob
Interested in this - have you got a link ??
Hi just google it mate and loads of DIFFRENT threads come up showing how to do it

I'm getting a used unit for myself just incase I need one in the future and refurb it when I need to as no point replacing the seals and bearing then leaving it in the shed for a rainy day.
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All pas fluid changed and no noise or foaming superb result £18 for 5litre pas fluid all is jolly well phew!!!

Then I did mine aswell for piece of mind and a few pics






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Originally Posted by johned
Good luck.
Thanks mate much appreciated
and all sorted after advice of fluid change

Thankyou for the advice and help everyone always appreciated
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Good job.Always a result when you think it's going to cost a fortune & ends up a nice cheap fix.Thanks in no small part to the immense knowledge on here.
Just wanted to ask if the old fluid looked any different to the new stuff?
I guess a few people will be checking theirs now.
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Originally Posted by legb4rsk
Good job.Always a result when you think it's going to cost a fortune & ends up a nice cheap fix.Thanks in no small part to the immense knowledge on here.
Just wanted to ask if the old fluid looked any different to the new stuff?
I guess a few people will be checking theirs now.
The fluid wasn't clean and there was a fair bit of crap at bottom of both reservoirs
fluids were not as clean as what went in that's for sure

Mine had a slight judder when driving through the steering ever since I've had it and a ever so slight whine that's gone now aswell font know why I hadn't done mine ages ago

both cars much smoother but then again over 13 year old oil is never going to be right

Also the bubble foaming in my brothers pas reservoir was caused by the pas oils anti foaming properties deteriorating
the new pas oil you can see circulating perfectly no bubbles noise has gone totally as well



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