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Old 20 September 2016, 01:28 PM
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Default JDM STI Bugeye opinions please.

Ok so i'm looking to get back into a Scooby at the moment but haven't really seen much that i like thats been realistically priced in my opinion.

i understand that you can make offers but if some one is asking £12995 and i think it's worth £10k then i can't see the point in even getting in touch and wasting both of our time. Maybe i;m not cheeky enough.

I do have my eye on something that is very nice and fairly priced but it's not yet for sale so I'm still keeping my eye out.

Which brings me to this

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classifi...code=p&adPos=2

Now this looks a really nice thing, however two things, the bumper badges should be white so possible new bumper or respray at some point and no boot badges??

Other than that it looks pretty good to me, what do the experts on here think and what kind of price would people be happy to offer for the car if in my position to buy? Is it well priced or a bit toppy?


Over to you guys, all opinions welcome.

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Old 20 September 2016, 02:01 PM
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That's a lovely example prodrive sti styling !! Roof flap option all positive features indeed I sold my bug sti prodrive type uk last year at £7k with 52k miles on it and this one is a jdm
Old 20 September 2016, 02:45 PM
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Chav valve and turdo timer

The MOT history is good.

https://www.check-mot.service.gov.uk/

Single scroll, so the burble is there and it looks like a pretty good car.
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So contrary to what i posted earlier do you think a bid of 6k is taking the ****?
Old 20 September 2016, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by peter a
So contrary to what i posted earlier do you think a bid of 6k is taking the ****?
Dont think the seller would drop £2.5k off his asking price. It is a nice low milage bug eye tho. You can only ask you never know
Old 20 September 2016, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by peter a
So contrary to what i posted earlier do you think a bid of 6k is taking the ****?
If you don't ask you don't get
Old 20 September 2016, 04:30 PM
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That's worth more than 6k I reckon, but you never know until you ask, the guy might take it.
Old 20 September 2016, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
Chav valve and turdo timer

The MOT history is good.

https://www.check-mot.service.gov.uk/

Single scroll, so the burble is there and it looks like a pretty good car.
Are all jdm bugeyes single scroll with unequal headers then?
Old 20 September 2016, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by peter a
So contrary to what i posted earlier do you think a bid of 6k is taking the ****?
Some Imprezas on the market at the moment are stupidly overpriced, but I don't think this is one of them. I wouldn't say an offer of £6k would be taking the ****, but I think you'd be very lucky to get it for that. If it's in good nick and the provenance is decent, I'd say it's worth £7.5k, maybe even £8k.

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Are all jdm bugeyes single scroll with unequal headers then?
All JDM Bugs, including the S202 and Spec C RA, are single-scroll. JDM cars from 2003 (Blob) onwards are twin-scroll.
Old 20 September 2016, 07:33 PM
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that looks like a fantastic car. I love my jdm bug sti. mine has just hit 50k miles, but i would think that there not that many out there with that sort of mileage now
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Originally Posted by Ian
that looks like a fantastic car. I love my jdm bug sti. mine has just hit 50k miles, but i would think that there not that many out there with that sort of mileage now
If that checks out its got the potential to be a fantastic car. Personally I'd be a bit concerned about the partial service history, and I'd want to know why they have added a turbo timer.

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Old 21 September 2016, 09:23 AM
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I think its fairly priced due to the low mileage and rarity of these now. It certainly looks very clean. I wouldn't read too much into the missing badges, I'm looking to do the same to mine soon. Same with the stickers on the bumper, you can always replace them with white ones again. Having said all that I'd never go straight in with the asking price for any car.
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Originally Posted by Cambs_Stuart
If that checks out its got the potential to be a fantastic car. Personally I'd be a bit concerned about the partial service history, and I'd want to know why they have added a turbo timer.
The turbo timer seems to be on a heck of a lot of Jap imports before they land on our shores, really popular over there for some reason.
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Originally Posted by lewis87
The turbo timer seems to be on a heck of a lot of Jap imports before they land on our shores, really popular over there for some reason.
Not really. Stupid British people normally add them so they can invalid their insurance.
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Would the turbo timer and loud dump valve be easy to remove?
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Originally Posted by peter a
Would the turbo timer and loud dump valve be easy to remove?
The dump valve would be, although it may need a small map tweak (depending if it had been mapped for it in the first place). You'd only need to unbolt it, replace the gasket, fit a re-circulation valve and reconnect the pipework. I've even got a very shiny re-circ valve I keep meaning to put on the for sale board...
I've no idea about the turbo timer though. Sorry.
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Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
Not really. Stupid British people normally add them so they can invalid their insurance.
Is this a fact ?? Can a turbo timer invalid insurance??
Old 21 September 2016, 05:35 PM
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Yes as its a mod and allows engine to run when turned ofg
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Originally Posted by ZANY
Is this a fact ?? Can a turbo timer invalid insurance??
Yes and unless you drive your car at 7000 rpm for hours and suddenly turn off your ignition/hit a wall, you don't need it.

Unless you wona pose in McD carparks or outside schools.
Old 21 September 2016, 06:26 PM
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Offer £6500 if it looks good, and it all checks out when you view it. Imho £8500 is jdm blob sti money.
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Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
Yes and unless you drive your car at 7000 rpm for hours and suddenly turn off your ignition/hit a wall, you don't need it.

Unless you wona pose in McD carparks or outside schools.
So True indeed, good few scoobs I've had hAve had them on I just turned them off as you can't even lock your doors when the timers on pretty pointless... And you've put me off them for life now I thought they were pointless before but invalidating insurance is a DIFFRENT issue altogether
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Ok so I have called and had a chat with the seller and I'm going to go and have a look on Friday.

No discussion on money at this stage but a couple of points on the car, it was remapped by Slowboy racing after the dump valve was fitted so would require a map tweek after removal of the blow off valve which the guy said wasn't an expensive HKS one but a cheaper version? Standard pro drive exhaust still in place, would the remap have achieved 330bhp with this in place?
Also if Slowboy already mapped this car I assume the Ecutek listened would have paid so the next remap should be quite cheap?

Second point is apparently the defi oil pressure gauge is playing up and jumping around, he said it was just a sensor but hadn't looked into the cost of a replacement.

Now I know that a replacement gauge and sensor will likely be about £200 + fitting which I can negotiate off the price however could this be an engine issue and not the sensor?
If so what am I looking for?

Third point is the car is still running in kph on the clock and speedo, is this easy to change to mph? If so what kind of costs are involved?

Pheww lots of questions.


Oh and one more for luck, when he got the car in 2012 it was totally debadged front and rear so he fitted the pink front stickers.

Do many cars come from Japan debadged or does this point to accident damage and repairs before export?

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I'd offer him 6k. At the end of the day it's only worth what a buyer will pay. Worst he can say is no.

You never know what could happen.
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If the oil pressure gauge is jumping about you need to be really confident that it's just the sensor, as fluctuating oil pressure can be caused by other expensive problems, such as head gasket and piston ring failure.
I believe 330bhp is possible on this car with the mods listed. But any more would need some upgrades. A dyno printout would be useful.
As for changing the clock to mph I've no idea, but second hand clock units can be had for 150-200 from a decent breaker such as Matty at MB.
If you're worried about accident damage or possible engine issues, and you don't have experience with these cars get a decent subaru specialist to check it over. There may be a small fee involved but it'd give you peace of mind. They'd also be able to give you an idea of the cost of converting the clocks.
And get rid of the dump valve.

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Oh and part service history means zero history from Japan, so only service history since import in 2012.
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Tread carefully there seems to be a few ifs and buts.
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Originally Posted by Dave Y
Tread carefully there seems to be a few ifs and buts.
Agreed, lots of ifs and buts the more I think about it.

No history from Japan means the low mileage claim isn't really worth anything as it could have been rolled back 50k kilometres before going on the boat?
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have a look but if you are not 100% happy walk away because the Subaru paranoia will kick in. Are there any specialists in the area you could take it to for an inspection?
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Originally Posted by peter a
Agreed, lots of ifs and buts the more I think about it.

No history from Japan means the low mileage claim isn't really worth anything as it could have been rolled back 50k kilometres before going on the boat?
If its a proper importer they normally certify the kilometers from Japan, typically they also come with Odometer verification, so if you do discover it has been clocked you have some recourse, it says if this is incorrect that the BIMTA will buy it back, this is for the life of the vehicle.

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If you got it for 6k it would be a steal, cant see the guy knocking that much off though. Funnily enough it sounds a lot like my car. My oil pressure gauge also plays up but I know for certain it's just the sensor.


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