Can forged pistons be identified without removing the head?
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Can forged pistons be identified without removing the head?
Hi all. I've been looking at an ad that says "This car was owned by a mechanic and I have been told that the engine is fully forged with Cosworth pistons etc, but sadly there are no receipts we cannot verify this."
So, being a sceptical type, I wondered if this could be verified, perhaps with a boroscope/borescope or similar?
So, being a sceptical type, I wondered if this could be verified, perhaps with a boroscope/borescope or similar?
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I think it would be pretty hard to tell without physically seeing them! You'll know if it's had a rebuild as most forged builds have very light piston slap noise when idling. Although that still won't verify the type of pistons I suppose....and I would be reluctant to assume it's had a good standard of rebuild without the paperwork or detail.
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Had mine checked with a boroscope.assumed to be forged,sent pictures to many engine builders who agreed they looked like forged items.managed to track down a previous owner and got paperwork for a forged build using cosworth pistons.good result!
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I bought a car last year with a forged engine,built by a reputable builder,using cosworth internals,all reciepts present etc.
Engine didn't last long tho,Piston failed and the others had fracture lines so were ready to let go.
You take a chance either way tbh
Read some bad reports regarding Cosworth pistons(after I bought it)
I'm sure some are ok but personally would not use cosworth pistons again due to my bad experience.
I do think the failure was down to bad mapping tho as the Pistons did show signs of det,confirmed when I plugged it in,the det was pretty bad.
Engine didn't last long tho,Piston failed and the others had fracture lines so were ready to let go.
You take a chance either way tbh
Read some bad reports regarding Cosworth pistons(after I bought it)
I'm sure some are ok but personally would not use cosworth pistons again due to my bad experience.
I do think the failure was down to bad mapping tho as the Pistons did show signs of det,confirmed when I plugged it in,the det was pretty bad.
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what year and car is it?
cosworth and some mahle forged pistons have a square shaped dish on the crown whereas standard newage sti pistons dont, this should be easily identifiable using a bore scope, that said i believe the earlier classic sti pistons also had a square crown so maybe a bit harder to tell on them.
cosworth and some mahle forged pistons have a square shaped dish on the crown whereas standard newage sti pistons dont, this should be easily identifiable using a bore scope, that said i believe the earlier classic sti pistons also had a square crown so maybe a bit harder to tell on them.
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without receipts i would only pay standard car money
-a forged build or just forged pistons?5k miles ago or 75k miles ago???-a rebuilt forged engine mainly only benefits from the fact that it normally includes an engine rebuild at same time. so starting with a zero miles engine again - new oil pump?-new crank?-fresh bearings and clearances?heads refreshed? standard or uprated rods?
without any receipts what pistons it has is irrelevent really. lot more to refreshing an ej20-25 engine than just the pistons.
-a forged build or just forged pistons?5k miles ago or 75k miles ago???-a rebuilt forged engine mainly only benefits from the fact that it normally includes an engine rebuild at same time. so starting with a zero miles engine again - new oil pump?-new crank?-fresh bearings and clearances?heads refreshed? standard or uprated rods?
without any receipts what pistons it has is irrelevent really. lot more to refreshing an ej20-25 engine than just the pistons.
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