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Old Jun 24, 2016 | 03:32 PM
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Alloy Suspension arm parts

Right so i've decided to replace my front steel wishbones with Alloy ones, for my 1998 classic. Just check what parts i need list below

Alloy wish bones
Alloy Lower Arm Ball Joint Cone
Bottom Arm Rear Bushes
Front Drop Links

Is that everything? Do i need all that? thanks
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Old Jun 24, 2016 | 04:01 PM
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ICP do a nice new kit :

http://www.importcarparts.co.uk/part...y=&searchPart=
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Old Jun 24, 2016 | 04:22 PM
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Cheers but buying arms second hand, theres plenty about.


Also which drop links seems to be quite a few

http://www.importcarparts.co.uk/parts
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Old Jun 26, 2016 | 04:00 PM
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I have a set of alloy lower arms for sale for a classic £65 the pair

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Old Jun 28, 2016 | 09:04 AM
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you want the ball joint type links........
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Old Jun 28, 2016 | 10:30 AM
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Cheers but just bought a pair for £50

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I have a set of alloy lower arms for sale for a classic £65 the pair
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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 11:08 AM
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How you mean?

Just got the drop links
Alloy Lower Arm Ball Joint Cone

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you want the ball joint type links........
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you dont want solid alloy links but the correct ball joint type kinks to suit the alloy lower arm
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Old Jul 1, 2016 | 11:42 AM
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I fit the solid whiteline drop links to my old car with alloy arms,they were not a good fit,but then I'm sure I recently read a thread on here saying whiteline solid ones do fit and they come with extra washer/spacers? Might be wrong tho
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Hi yes i bought some special drop links mean't for alloy wishbones. And cookstar said i needed washers for under bottom balljoint bolt aswell.

So i got a

Alloy wishbones
Alloy Lower Arm Ball Joint Cone
Bottom Arm Rear Bushes already fitted to wishbones
Front Drop Links for alloy wish bones
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Did you get solid or the ball joint type drop links jay?
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Old Jul 2, 2016 | 02:38 PM
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There solid

At this rate i'm tempted to just buy a steel one if i could find one.
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Originally Posted by jaygsi
There solid

At this rate i'm tempted to just buy a steel one if i could find one.
What are solid? The links you bought?
Tempted to buy a steel one? Arm you mean?
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lol yes bud, thanks for translating
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Thought you had bought the ones shown in the pic from ICP?

Did you buy new and what make are they?
Whiteline ones have spacers for alloy arms I think lol

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http://www.whiteline.com.au/product_...t_number=KLC32
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Yeah these, they look like the right ones?

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/271797883216?_mwBanner=1
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Genuine ones are best

http://www.importcarparts.co.uk/part...ey=&searchPart=
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As 53 said genuine are best,but the ones you have are also ball joint type and not solid so they will fit.
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Ah pants. Always prefer genuine ones. Can't wait now for them to be delivered. Need them fitted for mot.
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Solid ones like the one in the thread below are what mine looked like without spacers.

https://www.scoobynet.com/suspension...assic-sti.html
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Ok cheers. Not had a luck at ones on the car yet. Hope these will be ok. Going start on them Tomos.

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What Torque do the bolts need to be tightened up to?

Ball joint bottom nut behind hub 28? front wish bone bolt 75? and rear wishbone bolts 150?
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Front Wishbone

Tightening torque: N·m (kg-m, ft-lb)

T1: 29±5 (3.0±0.5, 21.7±3.6)
T2: 44±6 (4.5±0.6, 32.5±4.3)
T3: 98±15 (10.0±1.5, 72±11)
T4: 196±25 (20.0±2.5, 145±18)
T5: 245±49 (25.0±5.0, 181±36)



The picture shows steel arm, but the torque values are the same for alloy arms.

Exact instructions for balljoint:

INSTALLATION
1) Install the ball joint onto housing.
Tightening torque (Bolt):
50 N·m (5.1 kgf-m, 37 ft-lb)
CAUTION:
Do not apply grease to tapered portion of ball stud.
2) Connect the ball joint to transverse link.
Tightening torque (Castle nut):
STi model: 30 N·m (3.1 kgf-m, 22 ft-lb)
Except STi model: 40 N·m (4.1 kgf-m, 30 ft-lb)
3) Retighten the castle nut further within 60° until a slot in castle nut is aligned with the hole in ball stud end, then insert a new cotter pin and bend it around castle nut.
4) Install the front wheel.

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Originally Posted by Codders
Front Wishbone

Tightening torque: N·m (kg-m, ft-lb)

T1: 29±5 (3.0±0.5, 21.7±3.6)
T2: 44±6 (4.5±0.6, 32.5±4.3)
T3: 98±15 (10.0±1.5, 72±11)
T4: 196±25 (20.0±2.5, 145±18)
T5: 245±49 (25.0±5.0, 181±36)

where is that from? it doesnt say the torque figures on opposed forces does it?
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No, OpposedForces list only part numbers.

This particular info is from 98-99 Impreza manual, but I compared it to 2004 STI and the torque values for the front suspension are the same.
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Thats great cheers




Originally Posted by Codders
Front Wishbone

Tightening torque: N·m (kg-m, ft-lb)

T1: 29±5 (3.0±0.5, 21.7±3.6)
T2: 44±6 (4.5±0.6, 32.5±4.3)
T3: 98±15 (10.0±1.5, 72±11)
T4: 196±25 (20.0±2.5, 145±18)
T5: 245±49 (25.0±5.0, 181±36)



The picture shows steel arm, but the torque values are the same for alloy arms.

Exact instructions for balljoint:

INSTALLATION
1) Install the ball joint onto housing.
Tightening torque (Bolt):
50 N·m (5.1 kgf-m, 37 ft-lb)
CAUTION:
Do not apply grease to tapered portion of ball stud.
2) Connect the ball joint to transverse link.
Tightening torque (Castle nut):
STi model: 30 N·m (3.1 kgf-m, 22 ft-lb)
Except STi model: 40 N·m (4.1 kgf-m, 30 ft-lb)
3) Retighten the castle nut further within 60° until a slot in castle nut is aligned with the hole in ball stud end, then insert a new cotter pin and bend it around castle nut.
4) Install the front wheel.
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Old Jul 12, 2016 | 10:14 AM
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All done cheers, was a complete pain in the rear end, had to take it to a friends , as the bolt that holds the ball joint in was so tight, it needed heating up quite alot.
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