What are your thoughts?

 

For me other than price and horse power they are 2 completely different cars. The scooby is more of a drivers car and the Golf is a mile muncher with sporty credentials.

Both good cars but for different reasons. What is clear and has been said many times before is why didn't Subaru offer more power, and will they bring back performance packs possibly not from Prodrive but Cosworth are a potential shout.

I love rally so for me there is no contest; however if VW actually made a road going Polo WR with permanent 4 wheel drive and 300 + BHP then my interest would definitely be peaked.

 

I still prefer the RCZR to either one, as you can see even being fwd and having less bhp, its nearly 5 seconds quicker in the wet over the STI


Tony

 

I agree with most of what you said.

I'd still prefer the Impreza, or not Impreza as it goes. Golf to me seems abit too euro box for me.

The one thing that puzzles me is power, for years i use to complain about old Vauxhalls being under powered, more so the hot hatch models eg Corsa's, then Vauxhall went from 120 bhp models which was there fastest to over 200bhp.

But for some reason Subaru arn't responding enough, admittedly the power has gone up to 300bhp compared to standard UK models or old 220bhp, but now were getting 300 bhp Golfs, its nuts.

 

Not really keen on golfs but besides the r badge that's a proper sleeper. .gonna surprise alot folks

 

Currently got a golf r and thats coming from a previous forged UK sti at good power and then a JDM Sti, so not a comparison to a newer impreza.

However what is clear is how well made the VW is, it is absolutely beautiful to drive , especially with the DSG box, it is effortless and so planted even in standard form, it is also pretty nice to sit in on long journeys and far less in your face then an impreza, so for me I am converted.

Throw in a 500 quid remap and you have nearly 350bhp in a golf and a time of around 9 secs to 100 and around 4 secs to 60 you cant really go wrong (thats practically supercar times), obviously RS3/A45 would be the ultimate but with the prices of golf r's dropping due to the massive lease deals they done, they are going to be a performance bargain when the prices keep dropping.

 

lol biased? its a lot wetter in the other vid to be fair

 

As much as I know the golf is quicker, nicer to drive, more reliable etc, strangely I'd still rather have the Impreza. I feel the golf just doesn't really have much of a personality or character to it (IMO). if I'm spending 30k on a performance car, for me personally, I want it to look like a performance car (I understand some folk want the sleeper look, that's fine). You can tell the Impreza is quick, you can tell the new type r is quick, you can tell the new Focus RS is quick, you can tell the A45 AMG is quick. The golf just looks, well, like a golf to the untrained eye.

I wouldent say this is down to being an Impreza fanboy as I love all the cars mentioned above, and if I was spending 30k on a performance car, the Impreza would be pretty low down the list, but in this case I.e Golf VS Impreza, it would be the Impreza for me.

Just my ten pence

 

A heavily modded Impreza can be a very rapid beast but its major problem is that you can never sit back and relax in it, at least I can't in mine. It's full on all the time and has to be driven accordingly. I've also got a fastish Merc that conversely almost drives itself, so much so that if I fell asleep at the wheel I'm convinced it would shake me gently awake at home in my drive and it would give me tea and biscuits. I can cut loose in it but rarely do. I'm sure the Golf R is a similar vehicle. Just depends what you want from a car I suppose.

 

Autoexpress have the rczr on their track in the wet, they also have a my11 with the pro r upgrade pack, 320ps, that ran in the dry, guess which one was much quicker

 

Its got quad exhausts. It's always the tail pipes that give it away on these german range toppers.

 

Golf git dsg launch control and was a foot closer to the start line.

The dope in the sti just sealed its fate as well

 

Wtf are you on?

Mods, can we not ban this dick?

 

Yeah I noticed this aswell. Granted, the golf R would have still won, but he deffo got a good head start

 

Ban coming to you very soon - no **** off!

 

In my experience it's all well and good pitching one car against another on a spec sheet or on track, but on the road in the moment spec sheets and Nurburgring times mean very little, it's all about the nut behind the wheel and how good he is, the car may be capable of all manner of magical feats but it's only ever going to be as good as the guy driving it.

 

Try driving a classic Impreza lol

Thats what i like about the Impreza it encourages you to be bad, i've driven other high performance saloons and they encourage you to sit back and relax, i'm not that old lol

 

Another thing I noticed in the closeups is the awful new WRX badge/font

The newage one looked pretty badass. Wonder how much money they spent redesigning it too look worse!

 

Pics, vid or link to that article or it doesn't exist Joking aside it doesn't surprise me if it is true or not as the RCZR weighs virtually nothing compared to other cars in the same market.