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Old 17 August 2015, 09:32 AM
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Hi All,

My new Turbo 2000 brakes are binding. Have taken it to my local non specialist garage, who have advised that a new caliper and pad are in order to the tune of £331+VAT (for an OEM part). This seems a little steep to me, so I've told them not to do it.

Does anyone have any experience on getting these refurbed? I'm aware that they are prone to seizing so guess there must be some specialists round that do this, or provide refurbished calipers? Any ideas on prices?

Problem I have is that the brakes are scary - so can't travel too far (I'm just outside Reading) I have used Surrey Subaru Specialist in the past but don't know if they do this?
Old 17 August 2015, 09:51 AM
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HI
We can supply you a pair of reconditioned calipers , powder coated any colour you want , fitted with new stailness steel pistons so will never rust again , new seals and bleed nipples for £235 a pair inc vat exchange
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This.
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Aren't Impreza brakes always scary. I bought some brand new 4 pots, and still my non turbo with its standard 2 pots braked alot better.

Well the 2 pots started to brake when you pressed the brake, unlike 4 pots where its nothing nothing then brake.
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Transhock in birmingham refurbed my spare set of 4 pots for £75 per side all in. They had new pistons, new seals, new bleed nipples, and freshly painted. Top work
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Guessing thats was for standard pistons?
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Here's another option if you're wanting to refurb your calipers.

Some interesting advice about stainless steel pistons as well.

http://www.type-ra.com/subaru-forum/...6/#post-122451
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Originally Posted by Ste333
Transhock in birmingham refurbed my spare set of 4 pots for £75 per side all in. They had new pistons, new seals, new bleed nipples, and freshly painted. Top work
Were you happy with the result ? And what was the turnaround time?
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We can supply brand new 4 pot Pair for £234.50. "Non Exchange" We do not need old calipers back.


£249.50 incl pad retaining kit.
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Originally Posted by RSR Automotive
We can supply brand new 4 pot Pair for £234.50. "Non Exchange" We do not need old calipers back.


£249.50 incl pad retaining kit.

Are these OE or blueprint?
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Originally Posted by jaygsi
Aren't Impreza brakes always scary. I bought some brand new 4 pots, and still my non turbo with its standard 2 pots braked alot better.

Well the 2 pots started to brake when you pressed the brake, unlike 4 pots where its nothing nothing then brake.

I really wonder where some people get their experiences from


I fitted 4 pots to my WRX RA with uprated discs and pads and it would lock up very easily (No ABS), even when the 2 pots were fitted unless you drove like a loon they were adequate.


My current Newage JDM WRX with refurbed 4 pots (stainless pistons), again with uprated discs, pads and Automec SBF fluid are very impressive.
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You can buy a brand new pair of those WRX PRO 4 pot calipers off ebay for £180 all in delivered. That includes all the pins, plates etc etc.
And a pair of genuine subaru ones are only around £250 all in off there.
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Stainless pistons in mine have been fine, rebuilt them 2 years ago. Dust seals have burnt off though lol.
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Thanks for the responses guys - much appreciated - I'll let you know how I get on
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Originally Posted by jaygsi
Guessing thats was for standard pistons?
Replaced all pistons with stainless ones. They've been good as gold.

Originally Posted by kevo10
Were you happy with the result ? And what was the turnaround time?
Yeah really happy mate, really tidy result - haven't got any pics unfortunately from when they were done. Turnaround was 2 days. If I wanted them properly plated for a better finish, they'd do that in 7 days for no extra charge.
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ok thanks
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There does seem a big fuss about having to use stainless Pistons, as per the link it's the calliper around the piston past the seal that corrodes too and causes the piston to stick. The Pistons do get corrosion at their tops but most of the time the actually surface that touches the seal only gets traces from the calliper corrosion building up and it all polishes off.

I've even done vehicles with seized Pistons that use an almost Bakolite piston material and again it's the rust build up on the calliper around the piston that seizes it. So no matter what material the Pistons are, they are still going to seize.

I've done a few sets of Impreza 4 pots and it's a pretty quick easy process. I use my 90deg air grinder with a 3m scotch type pad (a worn one) that fits perfectly into the calliper bores and buff the corrosion away from the top of the bores above the seal, then I polish the Pistons by hand.

Here's some pics from ones I've done recently. Some from the gent that bought my car who brings it back for me to service, and some from a bugeye.





Inside the calliper where the part above the seal corrodes.





These are the original Pistons in the pics above. They look like they'd never clean up, but this is just using some paint renovator by hand on the piston surfaces. I use the 3m disc of the dust seal recess and above (but not the piston-seal surface). Usually comes off easily. Even the original seals I've seen in doing a few sets are still looking like new. Dust seals are a good idea to replace though as they are often split.



Did some on a bug and painted them too.

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And before anyone says about the Pistons rusting again, yes it's a good idea to get new ones. Even if they are just the standard ones. The reason I did the above for the chap was he'd given it to me for service and new pads. There was no way I was going to just fit pads with the Pistons like that, hence the clean up!
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Looks good.
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We can also supply fully refurbished 4 pot calipers exchange for £209.99

We also give forum members a £20 discount so £189.99 to forum members.

Stainless Pistons and Bleed Screws and a 3 year warranty

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Does anyone sell the rear retaining spring kits for a newage wrx?
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We do :-)

http://www.scoobyworx.com/genuine-2-pot-rear-pad-fitting-kit-136-p.asp
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Originally Posted by Darrell@Scoobyworx
We can also supply fully refurbished 4 pot calipers exchange for £209.99

We also give forum members a £20 discount so £189.99 to forum members.

Stainless Pistons and Bleed Screws and a 3 year warranty

http://www.scoobyworx.com/4-pot-fron...odels-19-p.asp






That is actually a bloody good price.
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[QUOTE=Darrell@Scoobyworx;11725823]We can also supply fully refurbished 4 pot calipers exchange for £209.99

We also give forum members a £20 discount so £189.99 to forum members.

Stainless Pistons and Bleed Screws and a 3 year warranty

How much for 2 pots?
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[QUOTE=jaygsi;11725986]
Originally Posted by Darrell@Scoobyworx
We can also supply fully refurbished 4 pot calipers exchange for £209.99

We also give forum members a £20 discount so £189.99 to forum members.

Stainless Pistons and Bleed Screws and a 3 year warranty

How much for 2 pots?
http://www.scoobyworx.com/2-pot-rear...ipers-21-p.asp

Same price
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[QUOTE=jaygsi;11725986]
Originally Posted by Darrell@Scoobyworx
We can also supply fully refurbished 4 pot calipers exchange for £209.99

We also give forum members a £20 discount so £189.99 to forum members.

Stainless Pistons and Bleed Screws and a 3 year warranty

How much for 2 pots?
How does the exchange part work as mines a daily driver? I pay, you send and then i return old ones? Stupid question i know lol
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[QUOTE=kevo10;11726214]
Originally Posted by jaygsi
How does the exchange part work as mines a daily driver? I pay, you send and then i return old ones? Stupid question i know lol
Yeah thats how it works

We list ones we have stock off for exchange ones we dont we list accordingly
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Got a stainless piston kit off Scoobyworx a couple of yrs ago. Not too hard to change once the old seized piston's were out,
If your confident enough to do it yourself put the cash you will save towards some decent discs and pads.
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Yeah , was thinking of going this way , but after reading the info about the caliper bores being the problem , had a rethink. After all , they are 15 years old
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I got a pair of good bare calipers from a breaker plus stainless pistons, seals etc from Godspeed, put it all together on the kitchen table, and swapped them over with the old ones. No time off the road.


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