Notices
ScoobyNet General General Subaru Discussion
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Raptor - Does the bung make a difference

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 27 May 2015, 07:40 AM
  #1  
Gear Head
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
Gear Head's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Somewhere in Kent, sniffing some V-Power
Posts: 15,029
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Raptor - Does the bung make a difference

Or does it still drone?
Got the chance of getting one for a decent price tomorrow but worried it's going to **** me of with cabin drone on long journeys.

Old 27 May 2015, 08:38 AM
  #2  
Matt_STi
Scooby Regular
 
Matt_STi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: West Sussex
Posts: 912
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

They make a slight difference, I tried one when I fitted my Ninja II a while back but they look bloody awful. Plus the Raptor for me is far too loud. I've had a few exhausts -Blitz Nur Spec (more noise than tone and was far too loud
Ninja II (Nice tone but very quiet)
Afterburner Vortex (Deep tone, not too loud)
Old 27 May 2015, 09:19 AM
  #3  
Gear Head
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
Gear Head's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Somewhere in Kent, sniffing some V-Power
Posts: 15,029
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Hmm. I have a de resonated centre at present and I get cabin drone even with a prodrive back box!
Old 27 May 2015, 11:48 AM
  #4  
powerwrx
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (11)
 
powerwrx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Browsing through a copy of Razzle
Posts: 12,613
Received 9 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

if the drone is bothering you ide suggest a different backbox mate, the vortex is loud enough and your looking at one with a deep tone than that. ive got a de resonated centre and h&s backbox and that's loud enough so I can only imagine what the raptor will be like.

ps if you want to arrange collection if got a resonated centre section you can have for £30
Old 27 May 2015, 01:24 PM
  #5  
Trinity
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (28)
 
Trinity's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: South London
Posts: 3,663
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by Gear Head
Or does it still drone?
Got the chance of getting one for a decent price tomorrow but worried it's going to **** me of with cabin drone on long journeys.

The resonated centre section is what makes the biggest difference, and if you are fully decatted , a sports cat also helps.

I take the offer of the resonated centre from Mr Grumpy above, good price that, worth a punt as cheap and easy to do.

HS exhausts still drone on the motorway without a resonated centre, but they go quieter around 87mph, so not ideal
Old 27 May 2015, 10:44 PM
  #6  
powerwrx
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (11)
 
powerwrx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Browsing through a copy of Razzle
Posts: 12,613
Received 9 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Trinity
The resonated centre section is what makes the biggest difference, and if you are fully decatted , a sports cat also helps.

I take the offer of the resonated centre from Mr Grumpy above, good price that, worth a punt as cheap and easy to do.

HS exhausts still drone on the motorway without a resonated centre, but they go quieter around 87mph, so not ideal
less of the mr grumpy thank you
Old 28 May 2015, 03:47 PM
  #7  
mulla
Scooby Regular
 
mulla's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: stockton
Posts: 64
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

ive just put a vortex on my Subaru sounds good and not to loud.

Trending Topics

Old 28 May 2015, 06:05 PM
  #8  
Gear Head
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
Gear Head's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Somewhere in Kent, sniffing some V-Power
Posts: 15,029
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Well my mate is collecting the raptor in the next hour or so. Will report back if my ears bleed!
Old 28 May 2015, 06:06 PM
  #9  
Trinity
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (28)
 
Trinity's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: South London
Posts: 3,663
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by Gear Head
Well my mate is collecting the raptor in the next hour or so. Will report back if my ears bleed!
You know if you put a spark plug in it, it will give you an extra 30bhp?
Old 28 May 2015, 06:33 PM
  #10  
crazyspeedfreakz
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (92)
 
crazyspeedfreakz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Surrey
Posts: 6,248
Received 42 Likes on 32 Posts
Default

When I was using a blitz on my old type R... The bung made a massive difference I couldn't live without it.... But it will reduce perfomance think I had a 20hp diffrence with and without
Old 28 May 2015, 08:59 PM
  #11  
Gear Head
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
Gear Head's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Somewhere in Kent, sniffing some V-Power
Posts: 15,029
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Can't see it making that much difference. May be 5hp max. We shall see.
Old 28 May 2015, 10:01 PM
  #12  
BoozyDave
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (8)
 
BoozyDave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Rotherham - ENGLAND
Posts: 2,205
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

I've used a bung in mine, it does make it quieter and more bearable, but the performance difference is shocking, it just feels like it is being strangled and doesn't rev freely. I wouldn't use a bung again. fit a resonated centre section or a quieter back box
Old 29 May 2015, 07:03 AM
  #13  
Gear Head
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
Gear Head's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Somewhere in Kent, sniffing some V-Power
Posts: 15,029
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Trinity

You know if you put a spark plug in it, it will give you an extra 30bhp?
You are not Fat Thomas. Stop trying to be him, it's so cringe worthy!
Old 29 May 2015, 07:41 AM
  #14  
Matt_STi
Scooby Regular
 
Matt_STi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: West Sussex
Posts: 912
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Trinity
You know if you put a spark plug in it, it will give you an extra 30bhp?
Helpful as ever.
Old 29 May 2015, 10:08 PM
  #15  
Gear Head
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
Gear Head's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Somewhere in Kent, sniffing some V-Power
Posts: 15,029
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Bloody hell is it loud without the bung! loads of pops and bangs on over run too. The bung does make a big difference though, although I think I might have to get that resonated centre section to kill the drone on long journeys.

Perfect exhaust for b road blasts though.
Old 29 May 2015, 10:09 PM
  #16  
Trinity
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (28)
 
Trinity's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: South London
Posts: 3,663
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by Gear Head
Bloody hell is it loud without the bung! loads of pops and bangs on over run too. The bung does make a big difference though, although I think I might have to get that resonated centre section to kill the drone on long journeys.

Perfect exhaust for b road blasts though.
Pops and bangs on a WRX? you put a spark plug in the exhaust didn't you?
Old 29 May 2015, 10:21 PM
  #17  
Gear Head
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
Gear Head's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Somewhere in Kent, sniffing some V-Power
Posts: 15,029
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Don't be gay. I know it's difficult for you but just try.

I'm not sure if it has been mapped in the past. Has also felt more like 280 than 220bhp. And I have had 3 280bhp+ classics so I have an idea.

I noticed it when I had an afterburner vortex fitted 18 months ago but it seems more noticeable with the raptor.

This is back box number 5 by the way. Wonder how long before I get bored or tinnitus!

Last edited by Gear Head; 30 May 2015 at 09:54 AM.
Old 29 May 2015, 10:30 PM
  #18  
Trinity
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (28)
 
Trinity's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: South London
Posts: 3,663
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

It was a perfectly legit question, WRX owners are known for their spark plugs in their pipes.

When I changed to the Genome from the HS, spool up went up immensly, twinscrolls actually prefer back pressure, so there are changes that can happen..but not sure 60bhp changes
Old 30 May 2015, 09:55 AM
  #19  
Gear Head
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
Gear Head's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Somewhere in Kent, sniffing some V-Power
Posts: 15,029
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Genome exhausts are for tarts. Just like type r's. If you had a type ra, then you would go up in my estimation.
Old 30 May 2015, 09:57 AM
  #20  
Trinity
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (28)
 
Trinity's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: South London
Posts: 3,663
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by Gear Head
Genome exhausts are for tarts. Just like type r's. If you had a type ra, then you would go up in my estimation.
Spoken by someone who has never owned any of them Gotta love WRX owners, which affording a Genome is near impossible!

Personally, I like not feeling like I have been dragged in a tin bath as in the RA, and lets not forget what car the Type R is based on.

#youlostthisonedramatically
Old 30 May 2015, 06:33 PM
  #21  
Gear Head
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
Gear Head's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Somewhere in Kent, sniffing some V-Power
Posts: 15,029
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Well my first proper drive it today proves it is too loud for my wife and son, although the bung fixes that instantly.

Lovely sound with or without.
Old 05 June 2015, 08:29 PM
  #22  
Mystical Sound
Scooby Newbie
 
Mystical Sound's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: West London
Posts: 17
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

haha! I'm after something louder and considering you've pretty much owned all my options what is your opinion of:
  • Ninja2
  • vs Vortex
  • vs Raptor
The Ninja2 I think is too quiet for me on tick over... I had a hawk sti behind me, the guy had a blitz nurspec fitted & on tickover and it was ... it drowned the ninjas note from 2 car lengths back

btw I get a drone too with a deresonated centre section, and as Trinity said that is what cancels most of the drone (I tried this temporarily, put the resonated centre pipe back on as the drone did my nut on the motorway at "top speed").. but eventually went back without it for the noise so I think you're going to be stuffed either way. The nurspec is a 3" bore so you have to get a bigger pipe for the centre.. but they do a centre section which looks like its resonated:



Blitz nur spec r
Old 05 June 2015, 08:36 PM
  #23  
Matt_STi
Scooby Regular
 
Matt_STi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: West Sussex
Posts: 912
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Don't get a blitz nur spec. I had one and whilst at first I loved it, it soon became an embarrassment and was more noise than tone.

It really is as loud as people make out, you'll annoy your neighbours and they'll want to stab you.
Old 05 June 2015, 08:45 PM
  #24  
Mystical Sound
Scooby Newbie
 
Mystical Sound's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: West London
Posts: 17
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Matt_STi
Don't get a blitz nur spec. I had one and whilst at first I loved it, it soon became an embarrassment and was more noise than tone.

It really is as loud as people make out, you'll annoy your neighbours and they'll want to stab you.
Matt what do you have now? My Ninja2 is a tad bit quiet, I just want something louder on tick over. I've seen youtube videos for most systems but most of the recordings I don't think give a true representation of the loudness.

So I've heard the Blitz and its really loud but I like the fact its got a nice note on tick over. Maybe the vortex or raptor is slightly quieter? Gear Head any thoughts on this?

ps apologies for the thread take over
Old 05 June 2015, 08:52 PM
  #25  
scotty boy 80
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (5)
 
scotty boy 80's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Ecosse
Posts: 698
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by powerwrx
if the drone is bothering you ide suggest a different backbox mate, the vortex is loud enough and your looking at one with a deep tone than that. ive got a de resonated centre and h&s backbox and that's loud enough so I can only imagine what the raptor will be like.

ps if you want to arrange collection if got a resonated centre section you can have for £30
Is it aftermarket or just the standard centre section mate??
Old 05 June 2015, 09:21 PM
  #26  
Matt_STi
Scooby Regular
 
Matt_STi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: West Sussex
Posts: 912
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Mystical Sound
Matt what do you have now? My Ninja2 is a tad bit quiet, I just want something louder on tick over. I've seen youtube videos for most systems but most of the recordings I don't think give a true representation of the loudness.

So I've heard the Blitz and its really loud but I like the fact its got a nice note on tick over. Maybe the vortex or raptor is slightly quieter? Gear Head any thoughts on this?

ps apologies for the thread take over
I went from a miltek which was too quiet
To a blitz which was too loud
To a ninja 2 which was too quiet
To a afterburner vortex which is spot on! Lovely on tick over, deep rumble
Old 05 June 2015, 11:13 PM
  #27  
Trinity
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (28)
 
Trinity's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: South London
Posts: 3,663
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

I'd be interested to hear what a Genome sounds like on a UK car, if anyone has any links
Old 06 June 2015, 12:13 AM
  #28  
drfeelgood
Scooby Regular
 
drfeelgood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 279
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I second the afterburner vortex , I've got a wrx de resonated centre pipe and its loud on first start up but once warm it really beefy on tick over to such a point as a passer by whilst I was at the lights said " that sounds lovely really meaty " , this is my fourth Backbox after having a Ninja 2 , Scorpion and a prodrive backbox and now I've found the perfect tone I was looking for .

Last edited by drfeelgood; 08 June 2015 at 08:55 PM.
Old 06 June 2015, 09:19 PM
  #29  
Gear Head
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
Gear Head's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Somewhere in Kent, sniffing some V-Power
Posts: 15,029
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Raptor - Does the bung make a difference

Originally Posted by Mystical Sound
haha! I'm after something louder and considering you've pretty much owned all my options what is your opinion of:
  • Ninja2
  • vs Vortex
  • vs Raptor
The Ninja2 I think is too quiet for me on tick over... I had a hawk sti behind me, the guy had a blitz nurspec fitted & on tickover and it was ... it drowned the ninjas note from 2 car lengths back

btw I get a drone too with a deresonated centre section, and as Trinity said that is what cancels most of the drone (I tried this temporarily, put the resonated centre pipe back on as the drone did my nut on the motorway at "top speed").. but eventually went back without it for the noise so I think you're going to be stuffed either way. The nurspec is a 3" bore so you have to get a bigger pipe for the centre.. but they do a centre section which looks like its resonated:



Blitz nur spec r
Definitely the raptor mate. The more I drive it, the more I love the roar it gives. plus the bung is always in the boot for when needed.

Old 06 June 2015, 09:56 PM
  #30  
powerwrx
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (11)
 
powerwrx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Browsing through a copy of Razzle
Posts: 12,613
Received 9 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by scotty boy 80
Is it aftermarket or just the standard centre section mate??
standard mate.


Quick Reply: Raptor - Does the bung make a difference



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 04:54 PM.