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Old 11 February 2015, 01:02 PM
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Default Help prodrive ecu my99 uk turbo

Hi, I just fit a prodrive ecu to my99 uk turbo. The car turns over but will not start. I read up on it and it's supposed to be plug and play without the need of key recoding.

Can someone please help.

I put the old ecu back in and it started first time.

Many thanks.
Old 11 February 2015, 01:03 PM
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What the connect on the ecu look like?
Old 11 February 2015, 01:05 PM
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Like this one

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Originally Posted by Classic_Marc
Hi, I just fit a prodrive ecu to my99 uk turbo. The car turns over but will not start. I read up on it and it's supposed to be plug and play without the need of key recoding.

Can someone please help.

I put the old ecu back in and it started first time.

Many thanks.
I would suggest that unless it's "mapped in" with the appropriate supporting modifications I would not turn a key.

Where did you get the information that it was "Plug and Play"?

Tick Tick Tick.
Old 11 February 2015, 01:37 PM
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It's the correct ecu with the grey plugs. I have already got the prodrive exhaust, panel filter etc.

Every thread I've read says that it's plug and play.

Cheers
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This is the ecu
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Lots of people have run PPP ECUs for years if not the lifetime of the car so they don't have to be mapped. So many people going on about having to map cars because they've changed the air freshner...

It IS plug an play for MY99, immobiliser is handled externally. Is it possible that it is an STI ECU rather than a Prodrive ECU? I believe that crank and cam sensor wires are swapped for STI which will result in a no-start. Also if this IS an STI ECU rather than a prodrive one the map is not really suited to UK fuel or your engine.

Post the part number on the casing up and we can check it.
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Yes correct, it should just plug and play, saying that I've tried a 1998 one on my car and that pluged and played aswell, and have tried another and it hasn't.

If you contact a few Subaru dealers should get it for £45 recoded
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Lots of people have run PPP ECUs for years if not the lifetime of the car so they don't have to be mapped. So many people going on about having to map cars because they've changed the air freshner...

It IS plug an play for MY99, immobiliser is handled externally. Is it possible that it is an STI ECU rather than a Prodrive ECU? I believe that crank and cam sensor wires are swapped for STI which will result in a no-start. Also if this IS an STI ECU rather than a prodrive one the map is not really suited to UK fuel or your engine.

Post the part number on the casing up and we can check it.
I think you have answered the question. What if it is not the correct ECU ie an STi version then it will not start, will require modifications and if you just crack on then trouble is just around the corner.

Now, having seen numerous "I fitted a new ECU and the car don't work anymore", quickly followed by my car is fooked threads, I always err on the side of caution.

But if people blindly buy uneccssary ECU's at an inflated price beacuse it's got a Prodrive sticker on it then crack on. The normal ECU is more than capable of doing exactly the same when handled properly.

Old 11 February 2015, 02:36 PM
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It is plug and play on the RB5 but i think needs programming for UK v5 cars.the same as the equivelant ecu does for UK v4 cars.
Old 11 February 2015, 02:40 PM
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isnt the rb5 just a uk turbo anyway?
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Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
The normal ECU is more than capable of doing exactly the same when handled properly.

But requires £525+ which is why people opt for the SP ecu, as long as you have the correct one with supporting mods then your fine.

I know you can get a legacy ecu with SP on so beware you need to check the codes on front
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This is the ecu.

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Originally Posted by jaygsi
But requires £525+ which is why people opt for the SP ecu, as long as you have the correct one with supporting mods then your fine.
But for the extra money you get a custom remap suited to your exact car, not a generic rich map that doesn't make much more power than a standard car.
I'd imagine the op paid a fair chunk for a "prodrive" ecu, better option would of been to get hold of a second hand ecu which has been ecutek'ed in the past for about £100. Had the map tweaked for £150 and for then he'd of had a custom map for his car and associated modifications.
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Is the red wax still on the casing screws? Usually a tell tale if it's been tampered with. Also there is a forester SP ecu that looks the same bar the small codes on the casing that won't run in a uk my99/00 impreza

If you get the correct one it is plug n play no questions asked or issues given! Despite all the nay sayers

it's not all about the pub talk bhp figures, the ppp ecu in a uk my99/00 is night n day over the std ecu

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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
But for the extra money you get a custom remap suited to your exact car, not a generic rich map that doesn't make much more power than a standard car.
I'd imagine the op paid a fair chunk for a "prodrive" ecu, better option would of been to get hold of a second hand ecu which has been ecutek'ed in the past for about £100. Had the map tweaked for £150 and for then he'd of had a custom map for his car and associated modifications.
That only works if you get an ecu with same mods roughly as your car and you know the original ecu mapper otherwise you will still pay a full remap cost less the license which works out about 350 total including ecu cost
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I'm not saying your wrong, just saying why people tend to go for the sp ecu, easy swap, normally cheaper


Originally Posted by MattyB1983
But for the extra money you get a custom remap suited to your exact car, not a generic rich map that doesn't make much more power than a standard car.
I'd imagine the op paid a fair chunk for a "prodrive" ecu, better option would of been to get hold of a second hand ecu which has been ecutek'ed in the past for about £100. Had the map tweaked for £150 and for then he'd of had a custom map for his car and associated modifications.
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Ok so looking at your pic I think you have the forester ppp ecu, pretty certain the d3h signifies it.

If you look on ebay there is 'forester prodrive' ppp pack for 300. But more importantly it has the d3h SP ecu

And I'd also say if you search for d3h on here you'll find someone else who was sold the same believing it to be the impreza ppp ecu
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Originally Posted by Classic_Marc
This is the ecu.



Fail then. Even looking at the casing says it's wrong, looking inside may also reveal even more fun. The standard ECU is more than capable than the Prodrive ECU which is no different. As stated a ECUTek'd ECU with the supporting correct mod's will do the job.


The UK GC Chassis T2000 (not Version) never came in STi guise, so an STi ECU will not work. All the guff your being fed by SIOC on FB is utter drivel.
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You are wrong mate the PPP ecu comes badged as an SP sti ecu. He has the forester one by looks of it

Both are for UK cars. I ran one, the correct SP, for over 3yrs in my 99 uk classic

They should also come with an authenticity certificate which you can use to cross reference the ecu
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This was mine. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y18...1/DSC02959.jpg

You can see it's SP and sti badged but unfortunately you can't make out the smaller lettering. You can see the red wax on the casing screws

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Hell of a long time ago, but when I had my MY00 turbo 2000 I picked up an ecu from the Prodrive Performance Pack for that model.

Thing is, I don't think it had an STI sticker on it. And it was plug and play.
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This issue comes up a lot it seems. The '99 Prodrive ecu is plug and play, I researched it a lot, and I had no trouble with mine. I think that this ecu isn't for a '99 MY Impreza, but probably for a Forester or Legacy. The label should say A18-000 D1X. If the car won't start and run, it's the wrong ecu.

The reason I, and many others, opted for the Prodrive ecu is that it is provides a very real, safe improvement in performance, for very little money and effort. Not great figures, sure, at around 240 bhp, but the torque (350nm) is right where you need it, and on a long fast cross country drive, the difference is night and day on a uk turbo 2000. I could get my original ecu mapped, and may do sometime, but it would cost a lot more. As it was, I paid about £350 all in for the ecu, exhaust, and intercooler pipework, and spent a couple of hours on the drive fitting it all. Bargain.

Edit: Mine has Sti written on it.

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Originally Posted by Gambit
You are wrong mate the PPP ecu comes badged as an SP sti ecu. He has the forester one by looks of it

Both are for UK cars. I ran one, the correct SP, for over 3yrs in my 99 uk classic

They should also come with an authenticity certificate which you can use to cross reference the ecu

Have I not pointed out it's the wrong one? I never questioned the STI labelling but the external number is wrong for a GC Chassis.


I also pointed out that an STi ECU will not work as the UK never got an STi until the GD Chassis.


But do your research and it saves heartache, misinformation and a tick, tick, boom noise.


Tidy.
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Think he thought you were saying the sp ecu with sti on it will not work on a uk 2000 turbo. Which we all know it will as I have one on mine. 1999-2000 sp ecu is plug and play and 1997-1998 isn't

But on the same note I tried 2 sp ecu's on mine one plug and played other did not. Never found out why.

Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
Have I not pointed out it's the wrong one? I never questioned the STI labelling but the external number is wrong for a GC Chassis. I also pointed out that an STi ECU will not work as the UK never got an STi until the GD Chassis. But do your research and it saves heartache, misinformation and a tick, tick, boom noise. Tidy.

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The correct prodrive ecu for a V5 impreza is SP STI 1001056110 A18000DIX and for a V4 it is SP STI 1001056010 A18000DV8 and the reason is that i fitted them to my two imprezas.Hope this helps.
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So whats the outcome?.
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I've heard (somewhere) that you are supposed to cross two wires to work. Sorry I can't help any more.
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The PPP ecu is plug and play in the MY99-00 cars ... as long as that case actually has a genuine UK/European bad in it and has not been substituted, there is no key coding to the ecu

Take the case off, take a pic of the pcbs and post it up, or email it to me at rbr@brdevelopments.com and then it will be clear what your ecu pcb is.

No you do not need to "cross wires" to use a genuine PPP ecu in any MY99 or MY00 UK or European car.

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Originally Posted by Classic_Marc
This is the ecu.

That ECU wont work. I was sold that on facebook group and it doesnt work on MY99/00, He still hasnt refunded me yet despite me returning it

I know its that one as I have a the serial number written down.

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