hi

been away from scoobys for quite a while, and have been looking for another on and off for ages now,
anyway, I am going to look at this tomorrow....
http://www.hurstcars.co.uk/used-cars...01406265310593

its pretty much what im looking for, full service history, right colour, right wheels,looks tidy enough, not sure about headlights, but easy to change, only thing concerning me is the fact its pre-modded, I would not normally buy a pre modded car, but I would probably end up spending a fortune to get it to this standard anyway! so I thought it may be worth a look

so could you give me your thoughts on this please? is it priced right? is there things I should be looking for on inspection? anything else I should know?

many thanks!!

 

It's forged which is good. Might want to look at who did the build and what spec it is.

Quite a rare colour for a uk2000 (I think) certainly not seen many uk classics in this colour.

Its got some quality mods on there already so looks good to go.

I would be checking for rust on arches and obvious places.

 

thanks that's good to know,

yes rust is my main concern, with the risk of sounding stupid.. were are the obvious places?? windscreen, petrol filler??

is there any tell tale signs of engine wear? like some on startup or mayo on dipstick?

 

Arches are the worst places for rust on imprezas,the obvious engine problems are pretty much the same as any car,blue/white smoke,knocking,mayo etc. hurst have some tidy cars so most likely it will be all good.

 

I'd be listening carefulyl for the gearbox. hat amount of torque and a 5 speed I guess wouldn't take too much abuse before going pop

 

ok thanks

yea, did a bit of research on hurst and found quite a few people on here have bought off him,

Thought I would check him out first as it a 3 hour drive tomorrow to go view it!

 

5k ! Ouch could get a nice sti for that

 

The colour should make it a Euro import, still turbo 2000 spec but pretty sure sonic blue wasn't available on uk cars for 99/00 models. Sure I remember something on top gear (Quentin?) about bringing cars in via euro dealers and saving money.

I've had one of these myself, a wagon.

 

So what is the colour?.

 

Personally I wouldn't be paying that for a well enhanced MY00.
I'd probably go for a younger car and newer technology.

However, only comment I've got re. the ad is that the car has an FMIC - on that's 1/3 covered by the number plate.

Also, the pillar-mounted gauges have emigrated to the er... centre console.

The cambelt's been changed - thank The Lord, given it's done 122,000.
(PS that means another change is due in 18,000).

Oh - and what uprated turbo is it running?

 

thanks to everyone for the comments

I had a hawkeye, but personally I prefer the look of the classic, hence looking at this,

cambelts changed........ I should hope so seen as engine was rebuilt 12k ago! (although he doesn't state when it was changed!!)

don't know what turbo either, I will just going to go and look carefully through all the paperwork with it and look at dates work was done, and what mileage it was done at, and take it from there, then if all checks out try knock him down to £4k and see what happens!!


thanks again

 

I'd just go and look at it,it's reasonably easy to tell if it's been looked after well. If there's loads of receipts,good service history etc it's a no brainer.

 

Even though it maybe running good power and clean I personally wouldn't pay that much for a UK classic impreza, I'd buy a the STI instead.

 

Depends what the lad's after. You're not really going wrong bang for buck on this one.

A newer car, say a stock 265bhp STI or even a mapped 300bhp one will feel like a Micra in comparison to a true 380bhp classic.

And to get a classic STI to that power output would take some hefty work and financial input.

 

Hi Boysie, if it was me I would get a look at the V5 or any receipts to find the last owner. Then look for phone number on internet and give them a call to ensure that you are being told the truth regarding engine build, mileage etc. I have done this with all 3 imprezas that I have bought and have never had any problems with them. (Owner Imprezas for over 10 years)

I owner the exact same model for 7 years - running about 330bhp. The car will be very fast and should stop as has Brembos on the front. However from the height of it looks like on standard suspension (or very slightly lowered springs - difficult to see on pic) which will be wasted if has not be upgraded. P1 gearbox is no different to UK car (someone please tell me if I am wrong). I made most of the changes that this car has to mine - but at the end of the day it was a tuned up Turbo 2000. I always wished I had bought an STi and modded that. It would be worth having a look even if it is to compare it to others as a benchmark for the condition of the sills, rear arches etc.

I have been to Hurst before and had a grim experience so just be careful. Maybe I was just unlucky. I would have a look at the car as I said but only to use a s a benchmark. Buy a car from someone who still owns it, not a dealer - find out why the owner sold it. Hurst would have bought that car for way less that you will pay I guarantee - even if you get him down to 4K. He usually picks up cars cheap from people who can't sell them or are desperate to get rid. Just my opinion though.

Hope it looks as good in the flesh - good luck. Just remember though that even though engine refreshed at 12K all the other parts have covered 122K, so be prepared for things to start breaking! I miss mine - however am glad I went back to a newage to drive everyday. If there is any significant rust on the rear arch and sill just run away or you will be fixing it over and over. Ade

 

might be worth looking at this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Subaru-Imp...item2591fd5095

 

As was saying earlier, for the amount your willing to spend you can easily be able to buy a nice STI with good power upgrades and in the long run STI's hold there value a lot more.

 

As above. Also regarding rust, make sure you take the side carpets out of the boot and have a look at the arches from the inside - I have seen a few now that have had clean arches externally but were extremely bad inside with rusty water running from above (where the top mounts are).

Hurst has got to a couple of cars I have liked the look of faster than me and the markup has been around £1500-2K on a 2K initial car. I would definitely look to buy an old Impreza privately if only to get a feel for the previous owner.

 

In that colour it's a Euro import, probably from Malta or similar. Same spec as a UK though. Don't let it put you off as dealers like Mororpoint used to sell Euro imports brand new, was pretty common "back in the day"

 

yer i think for a type r its quite reasonably priced, and its also fully forged with a good spec.

Plus its white which we all know is the best and fastest colour

 

I spent 6 months looking before I bought my car, and thought a 2005 PPP was the best value, since then I have had to put big brakes on and coil overs to meet my own tastes and I have added around 80 bhp with engine mods , all of which has cost another 2.5k. So it depends on what you want , a std car which is easier to re-sell , or IMHO and in hindsight I would now go for the modified car even if it were older.

But bottom line give yourself a check list and be sure whatever you look at really meets what your taste , as you have to live with it afterwards.

I think body style / shape / colour and its body condition are first priority and then I worry about the bolt on bits afterwards.

For a 2 litre Imprezza the Car's MY is becoming less important price wise and for relative small money price enough gear boxes / engines are around not to have to worry too much about them for spares.

All the best Ralph

 

thanks for all the messages!
well I went and looked at it, and it was a bit ropey on the bodywork, arches were starting to go, dent and scratches on the wing, hole in the indicator lens, stone chipped,
then when he started it up there was a noticeable knocking/tapping noise from bottom end, he tried explaining away as "its a forged engine, they do that" and "its a boxer engine they do that" so ended up walking away

But

I took note of the type r that was kindy pointed out by cutmasterT , and had a look at it on my way back....... and it is awesome!!!!! bodywork is mint, the laquer peel the owner mentioned is barey noticeable, about size of a 5p piece, and the sonecips on front bumper is very slight, but everything else is immaculate, imported in 2007 and been garaged all its life (when not used!)

.....and I pick it up on Friday!!!!!

so thanks cutmasterT for pointing it out, and thanks everyone else for there comments :0)

 

he said its a uk car, got exported to Cyprus, then came back???????
nothing really added up with that car!

 

Well done iam jealous, it looks real nice.

 

Now please tell the truth. I never at any point said it was exported to Cyprus and came back. All I said it was a European import as the service history book is a European version. Also if it was that ropey why did you make a offer of 4k which I then rejected and then came upto 4.5k? I said forged engines sound a little louder than your normal engine which is a fact. I also revved the engine at low and high revs for you to show you there are no issues. In fact I am the one who advised you to push it through the rev range (as you were changing gears at 3 revs) to make sure it does everything it should. That does not sound like a worried seller to me!!!

Max

 

Dont want to get into a slanging match here, i have no problem with you max, you are a nice guy, and if you look at my previous post i came to you as other members recommend you, just the car wasnt for me

I asked if it was a uk car, as i had seen posts on here questioning its origin,

You stated it was a uk car, but said it had been exported abroad at some point, i said cyprus (as they are rhd) and you said yer think so,

And i have never mentioned on here the way it drove, yes i does drive good and very quick pulls brilliantly, but as i told you in person i was worried about bottom end knock, and the bodywork dings and scuffs

I made a offer of 4k as i said to you it would take a bit of money to get it up to spec, you said 4.5k was the lowest you would go, thats when i told you i was going to look at the type r, never said i would take it for that,

 

Made up for you mate that you found a proper Sti, not a wannabe trying to look like an sti. Enjoy.

 

This cars got a suspected knocking bottom end, the WR1 at hurst cars has got some questionable history, (according to another thread)
Maybe Hurst Cars reputation is on the slide

 

Lol...... The guy 'thinks' the motor sounded a little noisy and now it's got a fcuked bottom end....haha haha. ..This place just gets better.

It's common for a forged motor to sound like that, christ if you had heard my last one on start up you'd wonder how it even drove..... haha haha. .....

Max is a top lad, ive dealt with him many times for all manor of things including cars. Not once have I had an issue.

 

Plus,
If the op suspected major engine issues why on earth would he make a 4 grand offer.
Joker. Unfortunately car dealers come up against these on a daily basis. I feel for ya Max.